Mafia #20 - Pirates of the Carribean the Play

[Lady G]

I know that someone already listed the players, I am adding this for my own reference really and adding a thought.

Beth Known innocent
MG Known innocent
Lupin Known innocent
Ice Known innocent
RB Known innocent

Jmax Known Pirate
JL Known Pirate

Grins Assumed innocent-I say Assumed b/c really she COULD be the watchman, went to the Pirate side, they put their hit on her having her "protect" herself..then we all would "confirm" her innocent.
We do not know what their "celebration" was..and it WAS not the captain got to drunk, the only other options could be A.)Innocent turned Pirate...or B.) Captain switched places. Unless Jmax was the original Captian, this one is highly unlikely I only said Jmax, because she was close to a lynching, JL was only talked about.

So that leaves us with (besides Grins):

Hooked Newbie
Blueiz
Dangerdoll
Lady G
mee-mee
Malbri
LesbianChap
jpappy789
Madcrawdad

 

[Grins]

Day One

(I)Beth (6) by HN(392), DD(414), Mal(416), Mad(477), Grins(490), LC(497)
LC (3) by Beth(524), JM(530), Blue(538)
mee-mee (2) by JL(457), Jp(481)
(P)JM(2) by RB(508), Ice(603)
(I)RB (1) by LG(503)
(P)JL (1) MeeMee (563)
JPap (1) Lupin(599)


Day Two
(I)RB (7) --- Ice(655), LadyG(703), Mal(876), DD(882), Blue(905), JP(941), Mee-mee(989)
(P)JM (5) --- RB(786), HN(835), LC(872), Mad(883), Grins(975)
MM (1) --- JL(807)
LC (1) --- JM(841)

I changed who I think are pirates to green above to help make my point(s). Known innocents have been changed to pink. I also got rid of the retracted votes to make it clearer hopefully.

Here is what is the most telling to me.

Look at the who the known pirates are..JM and JL. My belief is neither of them voted for another pirate the first night. A pirate would have helped jump on a train to lynch a known innocent (Beth) or pick another innocent so as not to look too guilty. I'm thinking that Blackbeard the first night did not vote for Beth, they didn't want to get questioned on their vote when people voting for Beth were called to task. However, the game allows for Blackbeard to demote him/herself and promote someone else to Blackbeard and with the heat that JM was taking (she didn't vote for Beth the first night by the way) she may very well have done just that which is why Ice (the guard) didn't end the game in favor of the town with his killing her.

Also on day one..notice how when Beth voted for you to walk the plank LC, that JM (a known pirate) attached her vote to the known innocent? This just underscores what they were doing in my mind. JM was distancing herself from the train of a known innocent and doing what? Oh yes, still voting for another innocent that would set the stage for a future train the pirates hoped to create.

And lookie who only 8 posts later joined herself at the hip to what JM was doing...Blue. Not only does this look bad but when you add in what I discovered last night, that when I called Blue and DD out for this exact behavior...NONE of them called me on it. Not Blue, not DD, and certainly not JM whom I'd not have expected to even if she had been innocent. But Blue and DD didn't do it because why highlight what I said for everyone else to pick up on? Why draw more attention to the fact that there was a connection to them and hey to JM too. What has ended up as my biggest error (along with talking so much that the pirates freaked out about me) is what has helped to out 2 more pirates in my mind..Blue and DD.

Now the second night. This was the night I switched my focus from RB to JM. I believe that all voting for JM are innocent..except Mad. Why give Mad the pass? Because he thought JM was safe from the lynch (which she was). With the way the pirates had us all focus on Rb, JM was probably going to be saved. My guess is that Mad might be the new captain. That I'm just throwing out there, I'm not so sure on him being the Captain but I'm thinking he'd make an excellent one. He has been helpful to the town yes...but not taking a lot of risks either.

Oh and in my mind, JL and JM's votes on MeeMee and you LC the second night, just makes me more convinced you and she are innocent.

OMG!!!!! I can not believe RB was innocent, AND we lost Ice..on top of that they were both Guards!!!!

It's great we lost 2 pirates, but atm I'm a little freaked out by tonights events!!

WOW, just WOW!!!! I can't beleive this, I expexted to come home to RB being planked and pirate, that I really have know idea what to think!

GREAT call watchman, that at least we have to be thankful for!!

First let me thank you for the laugh and idea LadyG. I think from here on out we should all select one post from the entire game and award them this:

So far I'm nominating you.

Sorry, I shortened this, for the purpose of getting to what I want to post about. Grins, and everyone...yes I can understand and expect suspicions on me, because of the whole RB thing. Really, I just simply thought him to be pirate, the way he went after me and what he posted about me, quite honestly was false, I always have and always will post late night posts, that is just a time I have. Yes, I post at all times but the way he tried to say I JUST started posting late night in the last few games...that is false and I urge all of you to look at past games, look at the hours between 1am-3am, I bet I will be there posting in EVERY game I have played. I started playing in the warewolf games...pick ANY game between then and now, I swear I'll be there several nights between 1-3am, had he not said that or had he admitted he was wrong, I would maybe of not felt so strongly on him.

On top of that his posting just DID NOT have the look of an innocent to me, I'm sorry...but he DID NOT to me play the role of an innocent.

His posts about the times that you were posting have nothing to do with my thinking you're pirate. Instead, your hyper-focus on him and your defensiveness about it has everything to do with it. In fact, it makes me question Mal a bit more because like you she ONLY focused on Rb. Whoops, did I just turn my attention to another probable pirate? Sorry about that pirates, have some more rum to drown your sorrows.

 

[Grins]

lol, voting for an innocent both nights doesnt nessisarily mean you are pirate, it just means you were wrong. Grins voted for an innocent both nights, and she is innocent

As has already been pointed out I switched my vote from Rb to JM. Which brings me to ask you again Mal, why did you ONLY focus on Rb? And now that LG's overacting has me thinking she is certainly a pirate I'm wondering if she didn't coach you to make that post highlighting what he had said and where to make Rb look guilty (which he unfortunately aided in).

 

[Grins]

Grins retracted his vote for the innocent and placed it on the guilty...of course he did it last-minute, and he did it saying he still thought RB was a pirate...

Many of us were wrong...many times.

See people? LC isn't getting coached. Now he thinks I'm a man.

 

[Dangerdoll]

Why is this your biggest concern? I kinda picked up on Bob possibly being the guard because of a couple of his posts and his past play when he was the bodyguard in a game and left a clue for the Doc (me) to protect the Pres (CL). I think he may have thought that Ice's mention of guard tactics "outted" him as a pirate and since he was being lynched, took his shot. That, or he did it for spite. To me that is pretty mot, but you casting possible confusion to the town looks awfully scummy to me. Are you and Blue grieving the loss of the other wench of the ship (JM)?

HN, who said it was my biggest concern. I find it quite interesting how you keep coming at me for anything I post. Whether it be something I find interesting to a suspicion I have. What is that about??? I found it interesting that CL posting it that way as people have found these things interesting in other games. Why wouldn't it be something now??? Oh wait, that'sright, because you need to find something piratey on me. Whatever.

I did see it, and I didn't challenge you on it then because I was warned so much in the first game about how clever you were. You showed that you were then too. Frankly although I feel I'm an equally intelligent woman I knew I was not up to the level you are with experience in this game and decided to not butt heads with you too much.

Maybe I'm wrong about you being a pirate, but now that I've decided to put everything on the table the others can help question you more and you'll not be able to twist my words on me.

Thanks for the compliments... I think Grins... but one question though, just what have I been twisting around on you? Nothing but do as you wish.

Oh, Grins believe me I know how this looks! The only thing I can do is tell you, you are wrong...I truly just thought he was pirate, I really did, I don't understand why he would accuse me of something, when HE KNEW it was not true! I am genuinely taken back by this...and believe me I know just by saying it, others may not think it's true, but REALLY...I'm at a loss here! All I can say to you and everyone else is, voting me will only put us in a worse position...we can't miss tomorrow (next nightfall)!

Now, I have to say, DD & Blue are 2 of my biggest suspects as of now, I have never played a game where all DD, Blue, AND JM posted they thought I was innocent and if you look, they ALL 3 eerily said almost the same thing about me. In most games they all three are known to fight and accuse with me, but ALL said I looked innocent, think....they most likely know I am and they all were trying to appeal to me by saying they thought me to be innocent, so I would MAYBE not go after them....

What I find eerily interesting is how I never claimed to see you as innocent, G yet, as most games do, I am again lumped together with Blue and this time, Judge. I merely explained to RB what I knew about your posting times. He was saying something completely different about what I know about your posting behaviors. It may have lessesned your suspicion to me but it in no way led me to believe you were innocent.

 

[Dangerdoll]

See people? LC isn't getting coached. Now he thinks I'm a man.

who said he was being coached and/or being coached by you?

 

[Dangerdoll]

and LC, I voted for who I thought looked suspicious for the 1st two rounds. I was wrong, yes and I am sorry for that. As I have explained, my head was not in this game early on but I am trying to change that from now on it....

 

[Lady G]

8:00 PM Central Time thursday 12/21/2007.. No UD's will happen this nite..

The thread will be Frozen after this nightfall if it doesn't end on thursday. so if you want to post a wooo hooo or a shuckey darn you can.. after the nightfall but no game play please.

The thread will reopen per the schedule which is at home on my desktop computer.. I will go back in the thread and post it later but right now I really need food...

Sorry that is FRIDAY THE 21ST.. SEE I NEED FOOD, AND BEER.. AND SLEEP

Ok, quick question here. Is the game going to be locked after FRIDAY then? If it is locked tonight...how are we going to have nightfall on Friday??

 

[Grins]

Grins, am I suppose to read your mind and know who you are talking about? JM was on my list as were you. I felt bob to be more piraty than JM, hence my vote on him. I was wrong, obviously I wasnt the only one that was. Why are you trying so hard to connect DD and I? A more experienced player would know that even if one is evil and there evil teammate is up for lynching that its best to make a sacrifice of one for the whole team than to bring the whole team down by outting yourself. Just a tip for you to remember.

Lol read my mind? No. But when someone in this game says that "Blue and DD" piled their late votes on with a known innocent (Beth) I expect them to READ and suspect that I'm a pirate for having made the screw up. If I was not a known innocent right now you'd probably be calling me out for making the screw up in the first place claiming I was making false claims to make others look bad. Oh, and thanks for the new tip, but you won't mind if I again don't take it for the time being right?

From clowns post , I gather that there is a new captain on board the pirate ship. This means that we now have to basically start over looking for who this is. I feel that it is a low poster, one that we wouldnt readily recoginize a change in there post style,, unless of course they started to post more. I think that it would have been handed of to someone that wasn't being really questioned.

Now see, that sounds an awful lot like you to me Blue. Either you're playing worse than I think you are, or the pirates are really freaking out about how they've handed an innocent vocal townie power. My guess is it's the latter and the pirate plan is to at all costs attempt to manipulate the rest of us into voting for anyone BUT the captain. Sounds to me like your captain has decided you'er to take the hit...and get will Cooke swoop down and save you? Cooke can't protect the captain but he can protect another....you maybe?

All I know for sure is, we HAVE to get a pirate next night fall, and now we don't have a guard to take another out, I'm still just amazed that RB and Ice were BOTH guards!!

You're really wanting to get nominated for that new trophy aren't you?

Grins Assumed innocent-I say Assumed b/c really she COULD be the watchman, went to the Pirate side, they put their hit on her having her "protect" herself..then we all would "confirm" her innocent.
We do not know what their "celebration" was..and it WAS not the captain got to drunk, the only other options could be A.)Innocent turned Pirate...or B.) Captain switched places. Unless Jmax was the original Captian, this one is highly unlikely I only said Jmax, because she was close to a lynching, JL was only talked about.

:rofl:Bravo! I was wondering how you guys were going to try to convince them I wasn't really an innocent. This has to be a classic. Classic impossible reach. If had switched to mafia I'd NO LONGER be the watchman and have the power to protect myself the next night now would I? Oh, and if I had been changed to pirate WHY would I have switched my vote from Rb (innocent) to JM (pirate)? Puhleeez, you guys are hysterical but surely you can do better than this. The town isn't populated with idiots..give us something better to challenge our minds with.

 

[Grins]

We do not know what their "celebration" was..and it WAS not the captain got to drunk, the only other options could be A.)Innocent turned Pirate...or B.) Captain switched places. Unless Jmax was the original Captian, this one is highly unlikely I only said Jmax, because she was close to a lynching, JL was only talked about.

or how about
c) Celebrating because the town was about to lynch Rb and we were once again doing your dirty work for you?