Ok, I went through day 2. Looking mainly at Mad and HN trying to see which if either I see pirate in, and I have to tell you I went back and forth the entire time. Also I left off all the RB things, everyone pretty much felt him Pirate at this point.
I think, LC, and HN have some splainin' to do!
I added this, because it was after Beths lynch, and I think she has put these names out there for a reason, I think possibly one innocent one pirate. Mainly b/c this is a VERY common mafia thing to do. You name one innocent hoping others join, and one "mafia" in case they are lynched..just looks better for you that way.
Now JM was going after LC more IMO, voting him and everything, so this is something that has me going back to leaning LC innocent. When first reading this post. At the end I will re-cap my thoughts on this.
Of coarse I could be wrong and she named two innocents. Just less likely IMO.
Wow it got quiet! I'll bet the Pirate chat is hopping huh? Rb, JM, Mad... are we bugging you so much that you need to hide out? Come out and play.
Now we know RB is innocent and JM was pirate, Mad we don't know. Again, if he is pirate, naming ONE of his own would be wise.
I might ask the same of Judge about you...
Feel free to ask away... It's halftime of the Bears/Vikings game right now, but I plan on logging back on after the game for awhile.
Now Mad tells HN to ask him questions then.
No specific questions. I would like to see your take, suspects, and analysis on the night's events though. I ran at Beth hard and I readily admit & regret it. You seem to have driven the point home and sealed her fate late today though. Her posting today was actually much more innocent looking than it was this weekend. Unfortunately, once I got off of work there was no way to do a good analysis of everything before night fell. I've re-read everything since and want to see your input before I put my vote on you.
Here he say's he has no questions but wants some thoughts from him...ok understandable.
With regard to Beth, now that she's revealed as innocent, it's easy to say she looked more innocent of late...problem is, the damage was already done by then.
As far as you not having time to do any sort of analysis, your 1st post today was nearly 2 hours before nightfall, and an hour or so before nightfall you reaffirmed to Beth that you still thought she was guilty. So I'm not sure why you're saying she was seeming more innocent to you now.
With regard to stronger suspects, I mentioned earlier today (later in Day 1) that rb was starting to look more pirate, based on his claimed random vote for Judge, all while calling LG a pirate in the same post. His more recent silence is reminiscent of when he was lead vampire in the vamp wave.
another person of interest:
LChap: Went after folks who were on Beth early and claimed it was a train, yet he hopped on Beth late. Even after hopping on, he seemed to stick with the train assessment, but said that the pirates were lynching one of their own. Two problems with this: 1) People always bring up the 'sacrificial lamb', but in 20 waves, there's never been one 2) Tossing a teammate under the bus early on Day 1, isn't a very sound strategy - this is a numbers game. Almost looks like he could have been setting things in place for Day 2.
I've brought this one up before with the Beth AD posts. But it is relevent here since it goes with the question asked and I have to say AGAIN it is a valid point.
I started reading and posting one by one (to LG, I think) and realized that by the time I would get done, it would be very close to night. I was also jumping between my laptops and trying to catch up on the 1400 emails from last week. By the time I had a chance to "take it all in", it was as you point out too late to repair any damage.
In addition to the above... I did fear she was an innocent. I always do especially on day 1 (I have a lousy day 1 track record), but I was almost certain that she wasn't a PR and truthfully did not want to make a late switch, she was still my best suspect.
The way I play is the way I play. I have done pretty poorly on day 1 admittedly, but I still think it's better than the old, "random" ways. 1st to post, last to post, 1st role play, etc. At least information comes out. I am sorry we lost an innocent, but at this point I'd get lynched on day 1 if I didn't go after someone and think I can do some good for the town.
Now, HNs response to Mad, Ok, maybe he was to late when he realized it, but my question is his AD post of her still said how she looked guilty, he even made a post to MM about why she looked guilty. Now, IMO IF he thought in the end she looked innocent, why not post in his AD post about her...something like, I was afraid she was going to be innocent but by the time I realized it, it was to late to make the case?? He posted at least two more times she looked guilty BEFORE this post.
Well, it looks like I'll have to place my vote tonight or sneak home for lunch tomorrow. If I do make a switch, it will be between 5 & 6 EST and I'm leary of a change that late unless somethng dramatic happens. Right now, I'm leaning towards voting for Rb but I also am tempted to vote for JM or DD to keep them on the radar. I'll place a vote before bed tonight. I'd really like to see more from JM and DD, but I think they might be in hiding now.
/Game off
I have a CL find to pick up tomorrow evening.
http://atlanta.craigslist.org/for/512289944.html
:grinyes:
/Game on
Now this one I have to agree with, JM, & DD were looking guilty also, and a vote to them would make since.
Right, Ice. My vote placement on Beth looks scummy to you. Earlier in Day 1 with your 'thought train' post you were on those folks who were pointing a finger of suspicion at Beth, but not voting her (pretty much like you did). What happened to that theory?
My vote pulled Grins and LChap on? Pretty sure that they were on Beth all on their own. Beth basically sealed her own fate. If you were convinced she was innocent, why didn't you try harder to pull people off, instead of standing off all alone on Lupin, then moving to Jmax then rb?
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Here, he was posting to Ice. Not sure myself that his vote made Grins or Lchap vote her way.
Well, like I said I need to get my vote out there tonight.
Bob- you still look Pirate to me and have a few votes already.
DD- There are definite inconsistencies in your posts.
JM- You are playing totally different and I think it may be the stress of a new evil PR.
I vote to make Judgemax walk the plank.
I don't want all the votes on a single person at this point, but I personally think they are both Pirate. I can't help but think that maybe Rb is willing to take the lynch to protect a stronger role. He's called her out somewhat, but that could be a tactic. I'll be on for a bit longer for any who want to attack. I may be able to "hit and run" at lunch tomorrow and should be back right around nightfall tomorrow.
Here, he makes alot of since too, IMO. Everyone he named did look guilty.
Wow... all this time and you still have nothing more than "something is odd" on anyone? I just read every post you've made in the game and would like to encourage others to do so. Even Jpap has provided more input IMO.
This was his post to Jmax. Believe me, I wish I would of switched my vote to Jmax. I almost did at one point, but I was so sure RB was a pirate, and Ice made it pretty clear IMO he was a guard and was going to hit her. I liked the idea of taking out 2 pirates.
So let me get this straight Blue... you're calling for players to post more and saying that I've not been agressive (for the 2nd time)?
You've not posted much at all and I've gone after a few people including Rb, JM, LG, DD, Mad, and beth (unfortunately an innocent in Beth). Right now of the one's I've questioned, I think JM, Rb, and DD are my top suspects but based on this post you are climbing the ladder quick. Who exactly have you gone after? Who'd you put your hit on last night?
Again, I agreed with his top suspects, and Blue also.
Seems a little strange. You've been riding LG hard, and then go with the vote for Judge. Based on her recent list, though, I agree that Judge could be scum. Late in day 2 is getting a little late to say that someone is mafia because they just seem 'off' or something just doesn't seem right.
Right now, I'm kind of liking you and Judge. You're both calling each other scum, but neither have much of a reason...both kind of claiming more gut feel than anything.
Problem is, I don't ever believe the sacrificial lamb theories....it's never happened. I think that this may be a case of distancing gone bad.
Here Mad is saying how both RB and Jmax looked guilty...which they did.
Here's the thing LChap, while I agree with some that you look like you might be trying to find scum, some of the things you say or do give me pause...
In the first quote above you mention that your OMGUS vote will 'make the game interesting with everyone trying to read into it.' If you're truly on the town's side, the idea isn't to have fun while trying to possibly confuse folks. The idea is to have the things you say, and the things you do 'clear' you in other people's minds, so that the townies can concentrate on looking elsewhere. Just a thought.
Additionally, the second quote above looks like you may not be sure about voting rb or JMax at all... the part about maybe moving your vote to someone else entirely seems like an odd thing to say.
Finally,
I vote to make Judgemax walk the plank. Normally I'm not one for trying to keep votes 'even,' but I think that rb and JM are both likely pirates. If voting remains close until later in the day, it could make it harder for Cooke to offer protection to the leading vote getter.
Now his vote for Jmax, which I do not think was a "mafia" move, I do think he thought her to be pirate and he was right. Then again, this post makes me wonder AGAIN about Lchap.
Well, I hate to post and run but I've just red throught the day's events and just have brief input before I head out for my tank. I'll be back right around nightfall, hopefully if it's after 8 I still be playing. If not, here are my thoughts and suspects...
I agree with Ice's read on the celebration. I believe it's either that they swapped Captains or that they got an innocent switch (less likely IMO). Going by that, I think they would swap to someone that no one is currently calling out as a Pirate. I was berated a bit last game for saying that the evils were the one's not maing mistakes, but I believe that wound up true for a few of them.
Pirates IMO--- Rb, JM, DD, and Blue. I have no real read on the JL / MM / Jpap "thing".
Concerned about Mad & LG. (Both strong players and very helpful, if they are pirates and the Captain promoted, I suspect it would be to one of them.)
Again, I have to agree with him. Although I know he is wrong about me, and not sure he is right on Mad.
Because what Mad posted about, and then other posts by Lchap that have bothered me..I am wondering if Lchap is the pirate on JMs post. I know I said, she voted him...but there was no threat to him, it was safe for her to do that, I wonder if others would of piled on..would she of stayed?? Not sure I'm completely sold one that but it is possible.
So after all this, I'm sorry...but I may have to lean BOTH innocent. Although IF one is pirate, I am thinking it would be HN really, just by the post I have pulled from day one and two...but really I think they are both leaning innocent in my eyes at this point.
