This post just pushes the fact that the 4 players mentioned would not be mafia. Who would pick someone on their team that is likely to be considered by all to be mafia.
rBish is very good about not manipulating the roles. I think he does what I do and run everyone through an Excel random number generator a couple of times for the roles.
Personally, the only thing that I consider scummy right now (besides going ballistic over a day one vote) is being very quiet and non-helpful.
I was thinking about changing my vote, but the more I think about it the more I'm comfortabe where it is.
At first, it was a sort of joke to get Grins to calm down. Then when she jumped on me, then Mad jumped on me for stating that votes on day one pretty much have to be random, I started to get somewhat suspicious. It's not a 99.9% sure she's mafia yet, but there seems to be a hint of it.
Me and Mad just don't mesh for some reason in these games. It's just the way it is. I don't think he's mafia because he disagrees with me.
Like I keep saying (and no one seems to get this)... day one is a crap shoot. Especially with 200 pages of fluff, two days of additional bad guys, and the only fingers being pointed are totally random or towards people making (at least partially) helpful posts.