Mafia #26: Roadside Picnic the Game

[plantling]

I'd like to be able to trust Plantling as a known innocent but thats not possible at this moment.

Bkw gave his reasons why he thinks Plantling is innocent, I don't think Bkw is innocent, and this forces me to question Plantling.






If CL is a stalker and Plant is a stalker and she had to choose between the 2 she would keep Corys experience over Graces newbiness.

Also in your what coulda happened scenario if CL was lynched and found guilty why would the arguement be made that Plant was saving Grace? Can't the same arguement be made about Cory? We don't know his status. For you to say Plantling is a known innocent you'd also have to assume that Cory is also.But I haven't see you mention that.

I'd have to look back but I believe Plantling mentioned not knowing what the vote tally was at the time of her vote.



Here she says she had no idea how many votes Cory had at the time of her vote.

I'm not saying Plantling is a Stalker. I'm not getting that feeling from her but I can't see any reason to claim she is a known innocent unless Bkw knows that for a fact.

continued,

Or Plantling is a Stalker along with Bkw.

I have to wonder if you have been skimming Ice. I questioned BKW about his reasonings for listing me as a known innocent already and why he didn't have CL listed as an innocent also and his answer is what you quoted in your first post. It's odd that you are now trying to tie me to BKW.

Pretty quiet today. Hope to have posts to read if I can get on late tonight.


I didn't have time to comment about this post earlier b/c I had to go get my kid from school and had started my post before I saw yours. This post confuses me a little. I'm flattered that you would consider me a known innocent, but I think your statement is only valid if CL is also a known innocent. But you have him as either way. While I have CL leaning innocent, I don't know for sure, but that you would consider me a known innocent makes me wonder if you know.

 

[Lady G]

Oh, my so many votes coming my way...you all are so mean:silly:
WOW, TWO UDs and both stalkers very odd there, good...but odd and WOW I'm still alive, didn't see that one coming!!!

I was thinking about the stalker team. What a mess. It has to be frustrating to have two players UD. Is Lady G able to talk to the rest of her team? Is she the leader of this bunch? If not, who is.

Lady G, if you want to voice your frustration, please do. I think this would be a good place to let it all out. What is going on with your team? You are a much better scum than this! What is happening? Who is on your team?

I think talking about it will help you feel better.

Who are you going to vote for? Is that who is going to get hit also? Not gonna UD are you. For the games sake, it might be best for you to UD, but before you do, post some. There is lots to talk about.

Just want to say, I did NOT put a hit on Jensons and remind you all that things are not always as they seem in these games. Take that for what you will.

LOL, let out my frustrations you are funny....I have no frustrations but I do believe you are all playing into the stalkers hands.

 

[IceH2O]

Plantling my post was more about Bkw not you, though I do think you need to be looked at and kept an eye on. Interesting that you became defensive though. I didn't miss you ask him to explain, but just because he did I'm supposed to take it at face value?

I haven't really read todays events, just skimmed them,since I'm only on a quick lunch break. I would watch for anyone that was on Jensons that starts pointing fingers at me. I didn't make anyone vote anywhere.All I did was point out what I saw, if you agreed you voted. I didn't place anyones vote for them.

I have to look back to before nightfall and see who had me leaning innocent. I don't trust anyone that thinks I'm innocent especially that early into the game. If anything, and other games prove this, I look scummy for the most part the 1st couple of days. I'll actually never trust anyone that says I'm innocent again unless I'm on a team with them lol.

My top 3
LG
Bkw
?- figure that one out when I have more time

 

[johnlarson66]

Oh, my so many votes coming my way...you all are so mean:silly:
WOW, TWO UDs and both stalkers very odd there, good...but odd and WOW I'm still alive, didn't see that one coming!!!



Just want to say, I did NOT put a hit on Jensons and remind you all that things are not always as they seem in these games. Take that for what you will.

LOL, let out my frustrations you are funny....I have no frustrations but I do believe you are all playing into the stalkers hands.

Lady G, are you claiming to not be a stalker? So who are your suspects?

 

[IceH2O]

Oh, my so many votes coming my way...you all are so mean:silly:
WOW, TWO UDs and both stalkers very odd there, good...but odd and WOW I'm still alive, didn't see that one coming!!!



Just want to say, I did NOT put a hit on Jensons and remind you all that things are not always as they seem in these games. Take that for what you will.

LOL, let out my frustrations you are funny....I have no frustrations but I do believe you are all playing into the stalkers hands.

The only way this could make sense is if Sway is actually Stalker lied about you being a Stalker and then used the sphere to kill Jensons and have you lynched the next day plus hit an innocent. So basically getting 3 with 1 move. But having the hit on Jensons to start with totally blows that out of the water unless Sway thought everyone would be jumping off Jenson and only JM would have Jpaps vote on her.

I'm going to have to look into Jpap tonight I think just to see if this scenario is even plausible.

 

[judgemax]

Wow, I don't even know what to say! Two stalkers?..UD in one night! it must suck to be a stalker! lmao!

Ok, well, i am interested in a few things, the first being, that i said I saw something,. and am sure the people who said it, now know, that i saw it. Unfortunately, the dr could not protect herself, but she made it obvious that she was the dr, ..I know i am not the only one who saw it, and if the other person who saw it wants to come forward so be it.


I also want to say, that because of the afore mentioned situation, i suspect ICE a great deal more.

I also choose to believe swayde, in the fact that Lady G is innocent. I think, the stalkers are to messed up in their game right now to have even tried pulling something so silly, this early!

I also am not so sure why HN and JPAP, are so insistent that i am guilty, yes, i am off this game, ..i have personal reasons, and have no intention, of spreading them all over the thread, .. but if you must know, i a still dealing with the same issues from games prior.


there are 3 stalkers left, ... my top two suspects at this point, are ICE, and of coarse LG, I am also a little curios about Ogre, I still don't fully understand why you all feel that post cleared him?..maybe, it wasn't meant to?..

 

[johnlarson66]

Wow, I don't even know what to say! Two stalkers?..UD in one night! it must suck to be a stalker! lmao!

Ok, well, i am interested in a few things, the first being, that i said I saw something,. and am sure the people who said it, now know, that i saw it. Unfortunately, the dr could not protect herself, but she made it obvious that she was the dr, ..I know i am not the only one who saw it, and if the other person who saw it wants to come forward so be it.


I also want to say, that because of the afore mentioned situation, i suspect ICE a great deal more.

I also choose to believe swayde, in the fact that Lady G is innocent. I think, the stalkers are to messed up in their game right now to have even tried pulling something so silly, this early!

I also am not so sure why HN and JPAP, are so insistent that i am guilty, yes, i am off this game, ..i have personal reasons, and have no intention, of spreading them all over the thread, .. but if you must know, i a still dealing with the same issues from games prior.


there are 3 stalkers left, ... my top two suspects at this point, are ICE, and of coarse LG, I am also a little curios about Ogre, I still don't fully understand why you all feel that post cleared him?..maybe, it wasn't meant to?..

You still will not tell us what you saw?

I am sure it is a typo that you stated: "I also choose to believe swayde, in the fact that Lady G is innocent." Hard to get stalker and innocent mixed up, but maybe you meant "not innocent".

Also, please post where Jensons "made it obvious that she was the dr". I did not see it. Please put a quote or something. It appeared to me that Jensons looked like a stalker and until Swayde told of the investigation, most others did also. I think the main thing that would have cleared her is Lady G's vote for her, after we find out if Lady G is a stalker.

I would like to know more about how you thought Jensons was the Doctor. I do not think anyone else did. It is easy to think someone is evil when in fact they have a power role. I just did not have any indication she might be the Doctor.

Do not tell me (or others) to read and you will see it, as you have done with you other information.

I see no reason not to put JudgeMax high on lists of suspects at this point.

 

[Lady G]

The only way this could make sense is if Sway is actually Stalker lied about you being a Stalker and then used the sphere to kill Jensons and have you lynched the next day plus hit an innocent. So basically getting 3 with 1 move. But having the hit on Jensons to start with totally blows that out of the water unless Sway thought everyone would be jumping off Jenson and only JM would have Jpaps vote on her.

I'm going to have to look into Jpap tonight I think just to see if this scenario is even plausible.

Well, really at this point there is not much I can say...no one is going to believe much of what I say until I am lynched and they see for themselves what I am, then they will go back and look at everything I have said and hopefully figure it all out.

Swayde came out as a innocent with a investigation having voted Grace the night before everyone assumed she is innocent, "the Stalkers wouldn't take their own on a night one" right?? So, once she came out and everyone believed her, well not much I could do or say about it all my words would be twisted and reversesed and not bellieved...so rather than cause more confusion I was willing to let it ride, everyone will find out the truth eventually and hopefully in enough time.

I could of come out agianst her yes...I could of said I actually got the investigaion and she was lying, but no one would of believed me because since she voted Grace everyone thinks she is innocent. I could of let you all know who I investigated and found to be innocent, but why jepordize that person? As I said, once I was lynched everyone would find out the truth..Really I thought Jensons was going to be a stalker I about fell over when I seen she was the Doc.

Of coarse everyone was going to jump off Jensons, she just said that she got the "innocent" investagation and I was a Stalker...YES, everyone was going to jump to me obviously...especially since everyone assumes she (Swayde) is innocent...

 

[judgemax]

You still will not tell us what you saw?I will go back and multi quote it...

I am sure it is a typo that you stated: "I also choose to believe swayde, in the fact that Lady G is innocent." Hard to get stalker and innocent mixed up, but maybe you meant "not innocent".It was obviously a a typo, ..i was trying to say, that there is no reason to believe lg is not a stalker, and swayde not innocent

Also, please post where Jensons "made it obvious that she was the dr". I did not see it. Please put a quote or something. It appeared to me that Jensons looked like a stalker and until Swayde told of the investigation, most others did also. I think the main thing that would have cleared her is Lady G's vote for her, after we find out if Lady G is a stalker.again, will qoute it shortly

I would like to know more about how you thought Jensons was the Doctor. I do not think anyone else did. It is easy to think someone is evil when in fact they have a power role. I just did not have any indication she might be the Doctor.

Do not tell me (or others) to read and you will see it, as you have done with you other information.why not?..when i read the game and have questions, i get accused of skimming, and even with skimming, I caught that, so , whats everyone elses excuse?..

I see no reason not to put JudgeMax high on lists of suspects at this point.

Why put me there? because I am not uber active?..because i was smart to another player?..how is that different from me?..and what I normally do, ..I am having trouble following the format, because i am not into sci fi, ..I stated that prior, ..its not my thing, and i am terribly confused with the back story, ..so I am trying to get that out of my head, and just play..

 

[judgemax]

Why do you feel the need to state you are an innocent? No one had you on their radar as being scummy and I would have switched in a heartbeat. But that statement just seems wrong to say. I'd hate to switch and then see I was played into voting an innocent.

I sure wished you had investigated Jensons lol. She has mentioned something twice that either is a trick to keep her safe or is the truth. I don't know which it could be. All her posts seem evil though.

Looking at my notes Sway was the 1st on Grace and if she was a stalker she would have jumped off... I retract my vote on jensons and vote to toss LG into the Zone.

OK here is where i noticed What ice said, ..i went back and started reading, she seemed to be hinting IMHO as well, ...

You're observant. Don;t say anything else though, some people aren't, and if I live, I don't wanna be more of a target. I retract my vote for Ice. I vote to toss LadyG into the zone.

School just ended and I'm off to the hospital now. Thanks for all the kind words. He needs our prayers. I'll post about Ice when I can.....i know, it looks evil, but it's the truth....

here is where she admits it.


no need to find anything else, ..
I have played games, where we have used hints, and Ice was the only one who ever caught on, ..AND WHEN I LOOKED BACK, i was inclined to agree, ...


However, Ice is usually smart enough to not say anything, which is what makes me a little more concerned about it now?..he brought it up, usually he just says he thinks he knows who ( whatever power role ) is, and lets it go, ..if he says anything, its usually generic, ..so, i am a little concerned, that the
fact that jensons didn't make it through the night, had a little more to do with Ice than we would want to believe, ..esp, since he so suddenly stopped pushing her, and knew she was the dr, .IMHO, i don't get how it all worked out, again, i don't understand the story line, however, I do know, that he knew who she was, and she didn't survive, ..and no one else really noticed, ..so, it seems to me, Ice stopped picking on her, ..and had no worries, ..because he knew she would be gone, ..

does that make any sense to anyone else but me?..