Mafia 30: Witness Protection - The Play

[[AC] Old3Toes]

I vote to lynch Doomsday998

The reason is because they have not posted yet and was the first name I came across in the list of players to not post anything yet. I believe the Mafia will try very hard to slip under the radar and be as quiet as possible since it's going to be really hard to read people this round with the anonymous userID's. So this vote is an attempt to get lucky at nailing a lurking mafia, or draw a townie out into the discussion. Nevertheless, it is subject to change since it's still quite early in the game.

This is the first halfway decent reason for voting someone yet.

I don't know Tree....I find it hard to believe that with only 4 evils, they would stay that low? I could see them lingering in the middle somewhere...but the low/late posters are usually called out as Mafia, most of the time they are not...yes there are times that they are, but I believe they are not more then they are. Like I said though with only 4 I don't think they are going to be "obvious".

Although I to would like to see some thoughts from Doomsday, I am hoping for no UDs this round!!

Hmmm... no one jumping on Driver for discussing mafia tactics. I agree with the statement that they won't be obvious.

I would remind everyone that only 3 of the mafia know each other. The Big City Don knows the others, but they cannot communicate with him or vice versa.

Well seems to me someone was skimming, and missed quite a few peoples posts. Skimming is such a scumtell. Funny it only took you 2 minutes to correct your mistake, but it was 2 minutes too many I'm afraid.

I retract my vote for BadHaggis, and vote to lynch UhOhChongo

You know, I don't think it's ever been the case that a skimming player was mafia. However, it's a great tactic for the mafia to latch onto.

I would have to say the ones jumping most out to me right now would have to be...
Hammerhead
Hi-IQ
Treehugger

Why? or is it just 'gut' feeling. That's OK, I'm just curious.

Since when are 2 votes a "train", just think it is funny you pointing this out that there is a "train" starting....makes me wonder if you NO that UhOh is innocent and you want to be able to come back and say, you pointed out the train and can through suspicion on the two that supposabley started the train? I find it very hard to believe Mafia would vote the same on day one...so which of the 2 "train starters" do you think are the Mafia player?

Anytime you get two or more votes, it could be considered a train, expecially when there's no stated reason for the second vote... i.e. just following along. Trains are generally bad for us townies.

People really need to state reasons, the more the better for each vote, even a first day vote.

My current top two choices for voting would be Tiburon and Nemesis. I most emphatically do not like how tiburon has arrived at several of their statements and choices. That being said, I agree that Nemesis has twigged my mafia sensor with several remarks and exchanges. It's not something that I can really point do, but it's more about the whole thing.

I think it would be beneficial if everyone would state who they would vote for if the vote were due in a few minutes after they read this post and why they would vote that way.

Like I said, I think I would vote Tiburon, because of the things they have said and because it would also give me more of a clue on Nemesis.

Thank you

Aside: I would like to nominate scoop as the most change in posting style... good job whoever you are

 

[[AC] Driver8]

IF I were G, then your original post about me hinting at her alt id might make a little sense but why would I wanna hint who I really am. Isn't it against the rules? And if I were Mafia with her why would I wanna even draw more attention to her goof up? I don't know if the Mafia are telling each other their alt id's but I've been thinking that if they are using the same old sign on in chat, I'm sure they will be able to figure each other out and who but they are to know if they tell each other? I'm wondering if you know all this already as you seem to be in the know. And I have wondered if YOU aren't Lady G even before this last post. The posting style is very similar and spelling as well. It wouldn't matter if you were other than the fact that you are trying to say that I am G. Hmmm, why would you wanna do that if you were G? The only reason I can think is because you are Mafia.

I said it was pointless to belabor who Lady G is at the moment. Like some have pointed out, posting on the wrong id doesn't make one automatically Mafia. However I would like to know who all I'm playing with, especially if I've played w/them b4. It helps me to sort things out better in my mind.

I never said I thought the 2 people on Uh Oh were Mafia, but UhOh is the leading vote getter and for scoop411 to have come out and thrown more suspicion his way, yet not vote, it made me slightly suspicious of scoop. I have decided that Uh Oh maybe new to the game and not Lady G as I once thought.

You know rather you are G or not really doesn't matter to me...I thought I said that, but you want to dwell on that fact don't ya. If your G, if I'm G, if Tree hugger, or anyone else really doesn't matter one bit. It means nothing, the point isn't to try and figure out who each other is (although it may be fun in your mind) it is to find the mafia and get them out of our town.

I'm "in the know"? How exactly did you come to this conclusion? Because I questioned you...cause that is the only reason I see coming from you.

Maybe I am G, maybe I'm not again this doesn't matter at all...but you sure seem to want to know who she is don't you. My posting style seems like hers..that's funny really since every game I have played with her, she seems to be all over the place and "scatter brained" (no offense there G). I don't see that from my style, I have named who has made me wonder and why...but I'm sure getting some interesting responses...Tree hugger came on and answered me and honestly their answers eased me a little, not saying it cleared them completely in my mind..but it did ease my thoughts a small bit. As far as spelling errors, well there are many players with spelling errors, letters typed backwards, and everything else which normally one would correct, but we can not edit in this game so yep, there are many typos in this game. Again, you seem to be dwelling on who G really is.

I never said you WERE G, just making comments as I said I do not care who G really is or anyone else...for that matter.

You never said you looked back, just to see who was all playing..what you said was
"I just can't help but wonder. So much so that I went back to the sign up thread. I think at least one player has opted to pm or email Mad instead of posting in the sign up."
that is from post #82 if you need to go back and see.

Wow, so if you didn't think either were mafia...why point out there was a "train" forming...usually "trains" are pointed out cause you think Mafia started it or are on it.

You sure seem to back peddle a lot in your posts and change your view quite a bit from one post to the next.

 

[[AC] Driver8]

This is the first halfway decent reason for voting someone yet.



Hmmm... no one jumping on Driver for discussing mafia tactics. I agree with the statement that they won't be obvious.

I would remind everyone that only 3 of the mafia know each other. The Big City Don knows the others, but they cannot communicate with him or vice versa.



You know, I don't think it's ever been the case that a skimming player was mafia. However, it's a great tactic for the mafia to latch onto.



Why? or is it just 'gut' feeling. That's OK, I'm just curious.



Anytime you get two or more votes, it could be considered a train, especially when there's no stated reason for the second vote... i.e. just following along. Trains are generally bad for us townies.

People really need to state reasons, the more the better for each vote, even a first day vote.

My current top two choices for voting would be Tiburon and Nemesis. I most emphatically do not like how tiburon has arrived at several of their statements and choices. That being said, I agree that Nemesis has twigged my mafia sensor with several remarks and exchanges. It's not something that I can really point do, but it's more about the whole thing.

I think it would be beneficial if everyone would state who they would vote for if the vote were due in a few minutes after they read this post and why they would vote that way.

Like I said, I think I would vote Tiburon, because of the things they have said and because it would also give me more of a clue on Nemesis.

Thank you

Aside: I would like to nominate scoop as the most change in posting style... good job whoever you are

You know, 3toes...I did state why, that would be the reason for the quotes under the names and the other posts following it. I am not just throwing names around as I've seen many do so far this game. Although day one is pretty much "gut" feelings most of the time...but not only gut, there were things I wondered so I posted about them, proceeding the post.

I suppose if you want to call 2 people a train...IMO it is far from it, I do agree however, in the last few games these trains have formed rather quickly and usually ended bad for the town, so yes...watching how votes fall and on who and when is very important.

Really who would I vote right this second if I had to....well right this very moment it would have to go to Hammer I believe. Mainly because they seem fixated on trying to figure out who is who instead of who is Mafia, their view seems to change each time they are questioned and they seem to be back peddling IMO.

 

[[AC] RICKETS]

I went back thru all the posts to date and only one person really stands out as a diverter and suspision thrower. That person is C-Note on you first 3 (#11,17,19) posts you bust Lady G about her mistake that could happen to any one of us. Then you give the most random post possable in your next post (#22). I mean really what was that to mean at all it seems like a way to get people to talk about things other than the game at hand. Then on your next 3 posts (#29,32,99) again you go back to busting Lady G. Finally on you last 2 posts (#101, 103) you try again to turn peoples attention elsewhere. I mean really lets try to fine out who is really who and oooh wing nut is mafia cause he hasnt said much. With all this posting and yet you failed to bring up one logical point to help the town. This all together makes me think you are not on the level. This is enough proof for me unless someone just comes and outs themselves right now your it.

I vote to lynch C-Note

 

[[AC] UhOhChongo]

Well seems to me someone was skimming, and missed quite a few peoples posts. Skimming is such a scumtell. Funny it only took you 2 minutes to correct your mistake, but it was 2 minutes too many I'm afraid.

I retract my vote for BadHaggis, and vote to lynch UhOhChongo

i took off evryone i knew had posted, and thought id go back and edit it after, then i remembered i couldnt edit. i dont try to memorise posts, you realise.

Hey UhUhChongo, try post #14 i posted already just been busy and couldnt post much this weekend. Some people actually have tanks to take care of on this site!!!! :silly::silly::silly:

who dosnt have tanks on a fish forum? :silly:

 

[[AC] RICKETS]

i took off evryone i knew had posted, and thought id go back and edit it after, then i remembered i couldnt edit. i dont try to memorise posts, you realise.



who dosnt have tanks on a fish forum? :silly:

Someone who has too much free time on their hands. OOOOH and someone whos deer mafia!!! :lipssealedsmilie: LMAO

 

[[AC] Tree_Hugger]

I am watching Gunslinger and Wingnut currently because they have only made 1 post each and they were absolutely useless posts. I don't see anyone screaming mafia at me, but I am very leary of the quiet lurkers. Doomsday I am still keeping an eye on as they were so late in getting involved. I will likely be retracting and casting a new vote this evening. I want to at least give people some time after work to get online and review the thread and make their comments before I make up my mind on if I want to switch my vote or not and to whom. If my vote was due right this minute, I'd go Wing Nut.

 

[[AC] Hammerhead 991]

I think it would be beneficial if everyone would state who they would vote for if the vote were due in a few minutes after they read this post and why they would vote that way.

I would probably vote Doomsday as their last post seems odd. Perhaps trying to sound helpful, but not really sharing his own thoughts on individuals. I would like to hear more from them though as they could be just busy, so it's a good thing we have until tomorrow night.

I also have Nemesis, Wingnut, Scoop, and Driver8 as ones to watch.

You know rather you are G or not really doesn't matter to me...I thought I said that, but you want to dwell on that fact don't ya. If your G, if I'm G, if Tree hugger, or anyone else really doesn't matter one bit. It means nothing, the point isn't to try and figure out who each other is (although it may be fun in your mind) it is to find the mafia and get them out of our town.

I'm "in the know"? How exactly did you come to this conclusion? Because I questioned you...cause that is the only reason I see coming from you.

Maybe I am G, maybe I'm not again this doesn't matter at all...but you sure seem to want to know who she is don't you. My posting style seems like hers..that's funny really since every game I have played with her, she seems to be all over the place and "scatter brained" (no offense there G). I don't see that from my style, I have named who has made me wonder and why...but I'm sure getting some interesting responses...Tree hugger came on and answered me and honestly their answers eased me a little, not saying it cleared them completely in my mind..but it did ease my thoughts a small bit. As far as spelling errors, well there are many players with spelling errors, letters typed backwards, and everything else which normally one would correct, but we can not edit in this game so yep, there are many typos in this game. Again, you seem to be dwelling on who G really is.

I never said you WERE G, just making comments as I said I do not care who G really is or anyone else...for that matter.

You never said you looked back, just to see who was all playing..what you said was
"I just can't help but wonder. So much so that I went back to the sign up thread. I think at least one player has opted to pm or email Mad instead of posting in the sign up."
that is from post #82 if you need to go back and see.

Wow, so if you didn't think either were mafia...why point out there was a "train" forming...usually "trains" are pointed out cause you think Mafia started it or are on it.

You sure seem to back peddle a lot in your posts and change your view quite a bit from one post to the next.

Umm you say you never said I was G and that you don't care if I am but yet so many of your posts concerning me seem to link me to G:

Was this the first "slip" of the game....were you hinting you know G's alter ID?

This is the first post that I called you out on. Like I've wondered, WHY would I hint that I was G or knew who G was???

What if Hammerhead is Lady G?

Then C-note posts this.

Hmmm, thats a thought...that post is a little Lady G, kinda all over?


How would that throw us off her?

Then you say I do post like her, "kinda all over."

I would have to say the ones jumping most out to me right now would have to be...
Hammerhead
Hi-IQ
Treehugger
Really not real huge vibes from anyone at this point and there are others that have raised suspicion in my mind, but these three have raised my brow a little more then others at this point.


For one, yes it would make since especially if YOU are Lady G, really doesn't matter to me if you are or not honestly...as this would not really mean you are mafia just because of that. I really have know idea if Mafia can tell each other their names or not, but being they are team mates I don't know that it would matter if they did know. Quick to think that they can't though aren't ya?


Now, but didn't you just say it was pointless to try and figure who is who at this point...but now it is making you wonder so much that you went back to the sign up thread to check it out?


Since when are 2 votes a "train", just think it is funny you pointing this out that there is a "train" starting....makes me wonder if you NO that UhOh is innocent and you want to be able to come back and say, you pointed out the train and can through suspicion on the two that supposabley started the train? I find it very hard to believe Mafia would vote the same on day one...so which of the 2 "train starters" do you think are the Mafia player?

Now who is dwelling on Lady G, Driver8? And you seem in the know about what the Mafia would and wouldn't do. I didn't think they were allowed to tell each other their alter id's, though I'm sure they could guess at the least. But you seemed to know that they already knew each other's id's and that it wouldn't matter. Why else would you ask that first question I called you out on. And since then I've been on your list. OOOOOO, me.

I realize pple misspell. That comment wasn't made as an insult. I'm probably doing so now and do so often. It's just certain words or interjections that G uses that made me think you were her. The only reason that you being her would have any bearing is that you are trying to link me to her, and though you may deny it, the posts prove otherwise.

As for changing my mind about who I think players are, that is my perogative and everyone else's. A natural part of the progressing game, as new things come to light, I would say. Like I said it helps me to sort things out and why should it bother you if I sort things out?

I went back to the sign up thread to see who all signed up. What's so hard to understand about that? That's when I realized there were only 16 to officially sign up but yet there are 17 players. Again this is not important, just that I'm curious as to who the other player/s/ could be and like I said knowing who the other players are help ME sort things out. So what am I backtracking on?

 

[[AC] HI IQ]

I didn't say that questioning people wasn't how to play the game. I said, 'your being aggressive'.

Please make sure to quote properly. Misquoting is a mafia play.

so IQ, would you then say that Nemesis is "advising you"? this whole thing gets a bit misconstrued and I just want to understand exactly what is trying to be said here.

i was refferring to the post above from 3toes. I didnt mean to, but looking at it afterwards i did kinda reword his wording in my reply.



i need to read todays posts again. everyone looks guilty somewhere and i need to get a good vote in before tmw since i have to work after class. someone want to help me out and just admit to guilt? pleeze...

 

[[AC] Driver8]

I would probably vote Doomsday as their last post seems odd. Perhaps trying to sound helpful, but not really sharing his own thoughts on individuals. I would like to hear more from them though as they could be just busy, so it's a good thing we have until tomorrow night.

I also have Nemesis, Wingnut, Scoop, and Driver8 as ones to watch.

Umm you say you never said I was G and that you don't care if I am but yet so many of your posts concerning me seem to link me to G:

This is the first post that I called you out on. Like I've wondered, WHY would I hint that I was G or knew who G was???

Then C-note posts this.

Then you say I do post like her, "kinda all over."

Now who is dwelling on Lady G, Driver8? And you seem in the know about what the Mafia would and wouldn't do. I didn't think they were allowed to tell each other their alter id's, though I'm sure they could guess at the least. But you seemed to know that they already knew each other's id's and that it wouldn't matter. Why else would you ask that first question I called you out on. And since then I've been on your list. OOOOOO, me.

I realize pple misspell. That comment wasn't made as an insult. I'm probably doing so now and do so often. It's just certain words or interjections that G uses that made me think you were her. The only reason that you being her would have any bearing is that you are trying to link me to her, and though you may deny it, the posts prove otherwise.

As for changing my mind about who I think players are, that is my perogative and everyone else's. A natural part of the progressing game, as new things come to light, I would say. Like I said it helps me to sort things out and why should it bother you if I sort things out?

I went back to the sign up thread to see who all signed up. What's so hard to understand about that? That's when I realized there were only 16 to officially sign up but yet there are 17 players. Again this is not important, just that I'm curious as to who the other player/s/ could be and like I said knowing who the other players are help ME sort things out. So what am I backtracking on?

Well, I do not want to keep going back and forth about the same subject, as that does nothing to really help the game out, but I need to answer a few things here so not to be "called out" for not answering.
I didn't ever say you were G, and the only reason I have continued to say anything about it is because YOU keep adding it in your posts.
I don't think your intent was to "out" G, I had a feeling that maybe you were trying to divert away from the fact actually...that is why I asked if it was a slip...your wording just seemed to be trying to hard IMO.
"lmao, was that a purely blonde moment, G? or was it made on purpose to make us think you couldn't possibly be evil to have messed up so early. well, not that it matters since we don't know which is your alter id yet. lol, see how paranoia effects the mind?" Post #15
So I questioned you and actually this does seem a lot like a Lady G post, if you are not her...I'm sorry, but it is very Lady G.

Can you show me where I said I KNEW or even thought I knew if the mafia knew who each other is? You said, you didn't think they could tell each other..I pointed out we have no idea if they can tell each other or not.

Was that calling me out? Wow, I sure didn't take it as being called out. If you say it was then I guess your right.

There is nothing hard to understand about going back and seeing who signed up, I have and I'm sure many others have too. The point was that is NOT what you stated in your post, you said you couldn't help but wonder who was who...SO MUCH SO you had to go back to the sign up thread, this tells me that in fact you ARE worried about who is who.

Sorry, I just see you going back on your thoughts quite a bit. Yes, everyone changes their minds on players after new posts are made...but you seem to change you thoughts, wasn't talking about who you thought was evil or not...but it is your posts that change your reasons for doing things, they change when you are questioned.