Mafia 30: Witness Protection - The Play

[[AC] Driver8]

Just checkin in before lunch...

I am shock that Old3Toes was the vigilante and that he took out the doctor. I saw nothing in scoop to make them look like Mafia and I am suprised that Old3Toes used his power to take scoop out. One of the things that really bothered me about Old3Toes is that he was trying to rally the town around him, but did not even follow his own suggestion, he had a lone vote at nightfall. I am suprised he did not switch to me, just to make it closer.

Somehow, my vote on Old3Toes is now suspect. I had three people on me and Old3 had four. I think it ended up four on me and five on Old3. I think the at least one mafia was on me and maybe even the lone mafia. I see Rickets trying to build some sort of "case" about me, but what he says can really go for anyone. Who at this point has been helpful. Old3 seemed like he was not just a townie, fact is that he had a power role.

I do agree that people should post a list of their top suspects and their reasons.

Here are mine:

Gunslinger - I think is the lone mafia - not really posting much and not stating reasons for their votes. Still not sure why they voted for me.

Driver/Hammer - I think they both could be mafia - I think their back and forth stuff is just an act.

wing nut - I do not like the post and run style and the lack of particaption of anything of value.

I would be okay for lynching any of the four I have listed.

I vote to lynch wing nut.

Can you explain the above highlighted in red a little more? Yes, I know he WAS a PR...but I want to make sure I am reading your wording correctly are you saying you thought 3toes did in fact post like a townie WITH a PR?

Hammer and I are an act huh...nice, you do not at all see the possibility for 2 innocents having it out....you wouldn't happen to be distancing your self from a planned "Hit" victim are you?

I do have to agree with one point here though and that is Gun, may not be the lone mafia...but their play is questionable to say the least.

I found your vote for O3T suspect because it could have been padding the vote differences between you two in case others started voting for you.

If I remember correctly, you originally voted UHOH simply because you thought they were Lady G and slipped. Well now that I have made it pretty clear Driver is Lady G, what do you have to say about her slips?

Still can't drop the Lady G thing can you? Regardless if I am or am not Lady G...what bearing does that play for the game itself?

 

[[AC] C-note]

I found your vote for O3T suspect because it could have been padding the vote differences between you two in case others started voting for you.

If I remember correctyly, you originally voted UHOH simply because you thought they were Lady G and slipped. Well now that I have made it pretty clear Driver is Lady G, what do you have to say about her slips?

I voted for UhOh for posting in a thread about bettas. I think I stated thay you might be Lady G. My reason for voting for UhOh was not very solid and I retracted it. It was more of a vote to get people talking and besides UhOh disappearing, no one really talked about UhOh. So I don't think you remember correctly, good thing you started your statement with an out from the start.

I have alsp posted my thoughts on the who is who and asked that at the END of the game that we all get a chance to say who we think is who before Mad tells us. I think that knowing who Lady G is at this point is not important. I also think she is now doing it just to be funny and maybe as a way to keep everyone talking about it. I don't care if Lady G is Driver or not. I don't care if you are Lady G either. I do care that you are making such a big deal about who Driver is. Why focus on this? I think it makes you both appear scummy.

 

[[AC] C-note]

Driver, my point is that Old3Toes appeared not to be an innocent townie. He looked scummy. Often power roles appear scummy. That is most likely why he killed scoop, he felt scoop looked scummy but scoop had a power role also. I still think it was odd that he did not "pile on" one of the two or three top vote getters. He could have voted for me to tie things up. His lone vote for tiberon and his killing scoop has me at a loss. I saw nothing in scoops posts that looked scummy and hope that maybe I can figure out what Old3Toes was thinking. I would've thought he would have hit tiberon.

 

[[AC] UhOhChongo]

Afternoon, everyone.

Just to clarify some things...First of all, yes my initial vote on Old3Toes was the result of a post that looked very scummy to me, however, if you read more of my posts, you will see that I also felt that his responses after the vote were also scummy. What other reason is there to vote for some one? (I do expect an answer to this question)

Those reasons can indeed be valid occasionally, although it sounded to me like you were trying to find a reason to vote for him. It also seemed to me you emphasized that the reason for the vote was a "scummy feeling".

I do not believe the people on Old3Toes were mafia. I don't think it was necessary for them to vote for him since I know for a fact 2 of the people on him are innocent. It's possible 1 slipped in there, but I don't think it's likely.

You might "know" two voters were innocent, but all I know is that one was. I am not deterred from thinking you are or could be mafia.

I did not suggest lynching Rickets based on a scummy feeling or any other feeling. Read more of my posts past that one. You accuse me of wanting to lynch another person on a "scummy feeling" when guess what, that is the exact opposite of what I said. I said I didn't trust my feelings enough to vote for someone like that again, hence the vote for No One in that post and hence why I have gone back to my original theory that the mafia will be low posters who lurk and only post when they have to in order to stay out of the spot light, or as most would say, off the radar.

As far as my list I would have to say:
Narwhal
Uh-Oh
Are very high up there for me right now,

Narwhal-The vote for no-one twice has me very concerned, that and the fact they seem to be not helping at all. Yes, I know they have put out a list and made one other post with some actual "thought" behind it, but they can not commet to anything, and IMO are laying low...even though they post they are not, also not sure yet why they say UH-OH is a mafia "vet"

Just to clear things up, although I cannot find that post to quote it, it said something along the lines of "more of a townie move than a mafia vet", yet more subtley. I believe it was mistook for saying that she thought I was a mafia vet.

Uh-Oh-That post before night fall just really made me uncomfortable, and the post of "I knew 3toes would show innocent" really added to this.

I said that three toes would probably be innocent because I felt that with a large train on him, there was little chance he couldn't be. And I was right.

Wing-nut is looking bad to me also, along with IQ, Tib and Tree, I have way more people looking guilty then innocent at this point.

I really can't seem to get an impression of wing nut, so I'll let that go neutral. Although I agree with you that Tib and TH seem pretty "scummy" to me right now.

Sorry, just can't see anything but "scummy" from this and seems to be setting things up IMO.

How, exactly? Is prospecting a mafia move as well?

I like the "speculations here...either it was mafia or innocents that got it going??? Ya, think!

I also stated that I thought it likely that there was a rat among them, which you seem to have purposefully missed.

I do agree that Tree seems to be one to watch, but is this what that post was for earlier, setting things up to throw suspicions to someone?
Yes, watch me I would expect that as EVERYONE needs to be watched IMO.

No. As I have stated, those were my honest expectations, and low and behold, they were true. I know everyone needs to be watched, but I am watching you in particular, even more so after this post.

This one really didn't sit well with me when I came back across it...are you saying you know how Narwhal usually plays?

No, I am saying that being cute makes me think mafia. I was not directly reffering to Nar in that sentence.

You know I may as well get this out of the way, your posts pretty much all seem scummy, like a person "trying" to seem helpful....I vote to lynch Uh-Ohchongo

I am being as helpful as I can be. You can vote and say I sound scummy as much as you like.

Just checkin in before lunch...


Can you explain the above highlighted in red a little more? Yes, I know he WAS a PR...but I want to make sure I am reading your wording correctly are you saying you thought 3toes did in fact post like a townie WITH a PR?

Hammer and I are an act huh...nice, you do not at all see the possibility for 2 innocents having it out....you wouldn't happen to be distancing your self from a planned "Hit" victim are you?

I do have to agree with one point here though and that is Gun, may not be the lone mafia...but their play is questionable to say the least.


Still can't drop the Lady G thing can you? Regardless if I am or am not Lady G...what bearing does that play for the game itself?

I have to agree with this last bit... It doesn't matter who G is, she could be mafia or innocent, what's the point in trying to find out? Just so you can call someone G? Doesn't seem reason enough for spam.

By the way, my responses in red.

 

[[AC] HI IQ]

ok, while i have a few mnutes i'll post my thougts on every1. A is innocent B is looking innocent C is even d is looking evil F is evil to me.

haggis- B. few posts but they seem to be helpful.
c-note- b. their posts seem to connect some dots for me.
doomsday- D. nothing really to go by
driver8- d-. i dont care who they are but they seem to be defensive unless theyre instigating poeple.
gun- D, i get a weird feeling from the posts.
hammerhead- C+. not sure here. i like thei post style but i'm afraid of believing them for soe reason.
maelstrom- C, i need to relook at their posts in context of last night.
narwhal- D. im not at all comfortable with them right now
rickets- B-. same as hh.
tib- b-. keeps going from b to d back and forth for me
tree- c. was a b but im nervous of the repeatd claims of inncent
uhoh- F. probably where my vote will land unless something changes my mind on them or someone else.
wingnut- D-. i wish they had more to say. i do understand being busy but still.

 

[[AC] Hammerhead 991]

Just checkin in before lunch...

Still can't drop the Lady G thing can you? Regardless if I am or am not Lady G...what bearing does that play for the game itself?

I was actually asking C-note a valid question to try and determine his alliance to the town, which involved you. Reread the question if you don't understand it. And I have said before, you being Lady G has no bearing on this game except for the fact that you have tried to make others think that I may be Lady G. You also did that to UhOh when you answered C-Note's question about whether or not UhOh's posting in the thread had anything to do with Lady G's slip:

Anyone notice that UhOhChongo posted in thread about bettas? Is there a connection between that and Lady G's "slip"?

I vote to lynch UhOhChongo

 

[[AC] Hammerhead 991]

I voted for UhOh for posting in a thread about bettas. I think I stated thay you might be Lady G. My reason for voting for UhOh was not very solid and I retracted it. It was more of a vote to get people talking and besides UhOh disappearing, no one really talked about UhOh. So I don't think you remember correctly, good thing you started your statement with an out from the start.

I have alsp posted my thoughts on the who is who and asked that at the END of the game that we all get a chance to say who we think is who before Mad tells us. I think that knowing who Lady G is at this point is not important. I also think she is now doing it just to be funny and maybe as a way to keep everyone talking about it. I don't care if Lady G is Driver or not. I don't care if you are Lady G either. I do care that you are making such a big deal about who Driver is. Why focus on this? I think it makes you both appear scummy.

According to your post above it looks to me like you voted Chongo for possibly being G. You haven't read my posts if you think I'm after Driver simply for being G. Here's one of them if you care to click on it:

I realize you cannot say you are G as it says so in the rules and role assignment e-mail or pm. It doesn't matter if you've posted a thousand times as G, that doesn't make one evil, just silly. BUT I just want others to realize that YOU, DRIVER8 are the one who has been trying to tie me to G, though you know I am NOT G and in no way associated w/G, because YOU are G. And I have no idea why you would do this except that you want to throw suspicion my way, which talk around it all you like, doesn't seem too townie to me. And it's you who kept talking about G. I just answered your posts, which are sometims quite lengthy, also very G-like. Let's see the posts. To me it sure looks like you are obsessed about it:

The first LG post at 4:09 EST.


Your first post at 4:19. Plenty of time to switch id's and blend in w/those noticing your mistake.


I comment on the incident and put out the idea that G could be evil. I guess this didn't sit well with you because since then you, Driver 8, have thrown suspicion my way every chance you get.


You comment on my above post.


C-Note asks this.

You grab the opportunity to link me w/G.


Distancing yourself from G with insider info about her (yourself) at the same time casting suspicion on UHOH, I believe, who had posted outside the thread. Kinda an evil thing to do, I should say.


I stated why I'm suspicious of you, Driver 8 as your comment made no sense to me.


You claim it would make sense, especially if I were G. But you KNOW I am not G.


More talk about G but yet you claim you never said I was G...


Yet you say sorry but I do seem to post alot like Lady G??


Here you still try to cast suspicion my way.

But no one is really biting so your stance now is to say you were framed to appear like G possibly but not probably by me. But you see your post answering HI IQ was AFTER the second G post. I believe you were working on that post on the wrong sign on and resumed as Driver 8. And you say you have been trying to help the town all along? What I think you've been doing is adding confusion and I was at one point the brunt of your "help" so you'll excuse me if I don't trust a word you're saying.


Back to this post which you declined to comment on. Yes, I remember that game well, Driver. You (G) were on a team w/Ogre and Brains2. Brains2, aka Wheezer, made that edited post that Ice caught and you couldn't figure it out, or so you say.

 

[[AC] Hammerhead 991]

Afternoon, everyone.
I have to agree with this last bit... It doesn't matter who G is, she could be mafia or innocent, what's the point in trying to find out? Just so you can call someone G? Doesn't seem reason enough for spam.

By the way, my responses in red.

See above posts. Driver is G. She tried to make others think you were G by saying she thought she read somewhere where G had bettas. C-note had voted you and commented that you had posted in the betta thread. Connecting the dots, I'd say that G was trying to make it seem that you were G. Why would she do this if she were a townie knowing this would throw suspicion your way?

 

[[AC] Hammerhead 991]

Looking back at that whole scenario makes me wonder if Driver and C-note are on a team and had planned this perhaps before or after Lady G made her first post. Wouldn't it be a hoot to them if they could get pple suspicious of who G is? Who here still has any doubts that Driver is G???

 

[[AC] Hammerhead 991]

ok, while i have a few mnutes i'll post my thougts on every1. A is innocent B is looking innocent C is even d is looking evil F is evil to me.

hammerhead- C+. not sure here. i like thei post style but i'm afraid of believing them for soe reason.

LOL, no one ever seems to trust me, so you're not alone. One of the reasons I thought Scoop could be evil was because she said something like she thought I was more innocent, lmao.