Mafia 40 "Life behind bars" The Play

I see your point, makes sense. but I still want to wait till at least day 2.
 
ZSandmann said:
Neither because it doesn't count if he doesn't rephrase it.
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He phrased it correctly when logged in under the wrong id - but I guess that doesn't count?
 
I don't really care, still looks like teaming up to me. But if he wants to take me out because I'm going with my "gut", it's his shank. Just show me how else we're SUPPOSED to shank someone though. Concrete facts? Slipups? Newer players? Low posters?

Give me a better idea, Mad, and I'll surely take it.
 
NeonJulie said:
I don't really care, still looks like teaming up to me. But if he wants to take me out because I'm going with my "gut", it's his shank. Just show me how else we're SUPPOSED to shank someone though. Concrete facts? Slipups? Newer players? Low posters?

Give me a better idea, Mad, and I'll surely take it.
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You can vote however you'd like. The thing about voting your gut, though, is that when you do so, you don't have to give a real reason.

Granted it's day 1 and there's not a whole lot to go on, but when you point a finger at one person for actually doing something that you deem scummy, and then cast a vote for someone else based on a gut feeling, it seems off.

To make it really official, I vote to shank NeonJulie
 
No no read again sir. I said it's SO scummy, that it couldn't BE scummy, more likely to be an honest innocent's mistake - I have a hard time believing an actual Scum would make such an error to look overly bullyish/aggressi- you know what, why am I repeating myself? I just summed it up again for Lady G, so can use your own eyes.

I think people will see that you're deliberately, repeatedly,ignoring my explanation, and each time you rephrase it, you miss half of it (according to my interpretation.)

I just hope a few people investigate me tomorrow I really do. It would better if they did, because if nightfalls and what you think you want to take place, will take place, you'll have all kinds of attention all over you both.
 
bkw1982 said:
Ok. We wont say who is innocent, only if we found a snitch. That way we dont have to worry bout anyone claiming someone is innocent.

how bout this...

1. the spy gets an investigation. So the spy investigates the person above the medic, this protects the medic.

2. The medic protects the spy, so the beat down wont happen.

3. then the plan goes forth with ppl investigating everyone above them.

4. if, and only if, a spy is found then that person will speak up.....will not say so and so is innocent.

This should make everyone happy. No PRs will be harmed, no false innocents will be claimed, and maybe a snitch will get shanked.....that ok?
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Still a problem with this. Snitches can find the PRs if the PR is above them. Only they would know giving them the chance to beat down the medic then spy.

What if by chance all the snitches are lined up in the list. Then only 1 will be found and the others are safe.

Lady G said:
I just do not like the idea of the snitches know exactly who is investigating who, why do you want them to know so badly BKW? It is starting to bug me a bit here and not looking to good to me that you are pushing it so hard, sorry I think the ones who would gain most from this would be the snitches. Of course we wouldn't announce innocents found, but at the same time if I don't announce my outcome...well then everyone assumes the person above me must of came back as an innocent, if I were a snitch this could work out VERY well for me don't ya think?
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I totally agree with LG on this and was the same conclusion I came too. I think it helps the snitches more then it would the innocents and puts our PRs at risk.

NeonJulie said:
It's still spinning, and that's fine. I'm not sure of Dawg - but for the third time, let me say that hitting up a newbie is something so out there and aggressive, that a mafia person would be really dumb to do it. So dumb and obvious, that that's why I haven't shanked him.

Someone could easily slip in though, and call him on his "error", and not look THAT bad doing it. Perfect camouflage for a Lifer.

But that's fine, if you weren't trying to spin it back on me or defend yourself, you would look like you've given up. I for one, still believe in it, until more information comes out. I'm not saying I might not be wrong, but of everything so far, it still makes the most sense to me.
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Judging by the ones pushing the hardest for Bkws plan, you Dawg and Bkw, I see this as you trying to distance from Dawg.Not saying all 3 are definitely bad guys, seems to obvious. But I'm betting 2 of the 3 are. I'd put them in order of Bkw,Dawg then NJ. I don't like NJs quick vote because as LG has said its usually pretty hard to get NJ to vote on Day 1 and she was very early compared to usual.But guys look at the list then look at who is investigating who.

Heres the top 4

Chill
Bkw1982
Dirtydawg10
Zsand

So Dawg invests Bkw if it was inverted Bkw invests Dawg.If Chill and Z are also snitches 2 of them are protected off the bat. I know its most likely not that way but 2 of my concerns are able to invest one another under this plan.


I think its obvious why they are pushing this so hard. It helps them find the PRs and offers protection among themselves. Without the medic and spy we are basically sitting ducks. Dawg has really been pulling at the vibe strings the past 2 days. I like the good cop bad cop you and Bkw pulled this morning.
Chills answers to the invest discussion helped move him back down (still suspect though) and he is replaced by Bkw who has more posts today then in any game ever. Must really be important to him to find the PRs.

I vote to shank Bkw
 
Night in ~ 4 hours.

rbishop- 1 : jbradt
NeonJulie- 2 : Lady G & Crawdad Hugger
Lady G- 1 : NeonJulie
[AC] Scoop411- 1 : zsandmann
bkw1982- 1 : IceH2O

No votes from: Chill, bkw1982, dirtydawg10, Dangerdoll, jm1212, rbishop, pixl8r, jpappy789, noodle62, [AC] Doomsday998, [AC] Scoop411, OgreMkV, Judgemax

PMs whenever.
 
I was thinking about this whole "disclose who you are invest." subject and if we post who we are investigating it will be obvious who the snitches vs. innocents are based on the number of investigations they use.....This may have been pointed out already so sorry if I repeat. The huge convo on this subject has me baffled!
 
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