Mafia 40 "Life behind bars" The Play

[NeonJulie]

I just remembered I forgot one in there, where I was a detective. I think that's (6) total, so somewhere around there. Do I get special points for counting my games on two hands?


Night can't come fast enough.

But I'll continue where I left off - my single vote I'm convinced now more than ever is the right one. Knowing that of the 2, I was right about Dawg being innocent, that means LG saw an opportunity to slide in there and make a case. I vote to shank LG.

Hopefully by nightfall I'll have a nice 5-6 votes, hopefully most of which will be snitches, so that at least SOMEbody's shank death helps the Parolers.

 

[Lady G]

My top two picks right now are Ice and NeonJulie... other than those not posting... thanks Jpappy.

Heck you try playing this game with a 20 month old and wife who suddenly remembered it's tax free weekend. I haven't seen her since she asked for the check book and the car keys sometime this morning.

OK, purely based on current posts, both Ice and Neon seem different than normal. First Ice's not jumping when I was expecting him to. Then Neon not only making a defense post, but a logical (sorta) post with an early vote in it. Just seems atypical to me.

I'm not willing to vote them, I'm still holding out for the non-posters, just something to think about.

HAHAHAHA, no reason except to humor myself for pulling this one...but Ogre did you just say NJ made a "logical" post??? LOL, sorry NJ it just sounded funny especially the post he is talking about.

 

[Lady G]

well thats why i said that the only thing revealed is if they find a snitch. If they find an innocent they keep it to them self. This is really just to eliminate the odds of double investigation. And the off chance that someone finds a snitch they speak up. other then that the innocent will just use the info they gained to play the game better, having one known is better then none.

Dawg it sounds like you rather the investigations not be used is a orchestrated way. The phony "Dang" at the beginning, and the "end of story" at the end....can you explain why you feel this way, and why you rather not come up with something else

Scoop stop acting so slow. The PRs are safe. Read my post in full, stop....now read it again, and think before you post.

Dear Scoop411,
You are now owned by inmate #2126366389. Please report to cell block D, you must stay atleast 2 steps behind inmate #2126366389 at all times

Attention!! Attention!!

Selling one Scoop411 to the general public of AC Pen. You too can own you're own Scoop411, make me an offer...

how's that a waste? It's your investigation you can do with what you want. I doubt a snitch is going to out anyone....like you pointed out if their wrong they go next. This is also why it's best to get it done on the 2nd day. If we wait to long we'll loose the best number invest.

Since we have to wait til night 2 to use the invest it's possible we'll be down 4 investigations, if 2 innocents go night 1 and then 2 more night 2......

As it was pointed out, they're wasted if the same person is investigated also.
it's more of a waste to not to work together. Even if a couple ppl agree it will be a success, so if you don't want to then you don't have to.

Is anyone else interested in the investigation alliance?

in that case the only thing gained is information. the medic has to guess either way, so if the plan is used or not nothing will change for them.


Comment for bold Or they think you're innocent, since only snitches will be outed. in this case nothing will change, before the alliance you have a chance of being innocent/snitch and after the alliance you have a chance to be......innocent/snitch.

in that case what we will be doin is trading the medic for a snitch and information. So we get the snitch above the medic and any other snitches found.

2nd option can be done to save the medic is that the innocent that is recruited will investigate the person above the medic for them...of course that person will sac themself....but we saved the medic.

Im fine in either case.

Ok, first I was pulling these post to see how much BKW actually "pushed" for the everyone investigate the one above you thing. It was looking pretty bad to me too, then I had a thought of I wonder who was above and below him on the list (maybe he felt safe because the one that would investigate him was a team mate)....so I go back to look he is smack between two innocents..
Chill
Bkw1982
Dirtydawg10
Zsandmann
Dangerdoll
IceH2O
Jm1212
Rbishop
Pixl8r
Jpappy789
NeonJulie
Lady G
[AC] Tree_Hugger
noodles62
[AC] Doomsday998
[AC] Scoop411
OgreMkV
Jbradt
Judgemax
So, Dawg was under him....now I think to myself, would he really suggest doing this knowing the person under him was innocent, because if BKW was a snitch then of coarse he would of known before hand who was innocent. I have to say this lowers him tremendously on my list. Now, I thought of Z...and how he thought BKW was just trying to "help the town" (which I do agree with now that I look at the list) this made me wonder did Z already know he was innocent and seen an oppertunity to make him self look good, if BKW was shanked? If I believe this to be true...well guess what, that makes me wonder more about DD, she would be the one investigating Z if we went through with this plan...so if he IS snitch then I bet just about anything Doll is too or he would of not said anything.

 

[Lady G]

Bahahaha, Mad you are not one I'd expect to slip either. 1:39 to 1:45 when Doomsday posted, you could be him trying to cover it up, but it doesn't matter so i'll leave it at that.

My top two right now are scoop and Chill. I think noodles has been sort of anti-innocents (or whatever you's call us this game) and nothing major but Chills defensiveness to the investigation plan bothered me. I totally think the plan has holes but to try and completely derail all concept of a cooperative movement is silly.

I probably lean my trust most towards BKW right now, he is at least trying to have us all come together.

I don't think it is safe to assign people to investigate unless there is overlap, otherwise the ones that will find a snitch are up to be beat down. So either we pick a list of most likely snitches and double up or we all keep our choice to ourself. I lean to the latter. I think we should all agree to a pact that we will use our invest tomorrow so we get the max number of chances. Waiting later narrows the field but also possibly lowers our number of invests. An invest should ONLY be revealed if it was on a snitch. Innocents or PRs should not be said for protection purposes.

Also I vote to shank scoop.

As promised, this is the post that made me uneasy Z...at the time it just struck me and stuck in my head for some reason. You get on Chill because he didn't agree with BKWs plan and pointed out the holes in it...but Chill wasn't the only pointing these things out, I did...Ice did...Pap did, why did you single Chill out on this? Now, it hit me as I was going through posts tonight, hmmm...Chill was the one taken out by the snitches wasn't he. I just don't know all this is making me wonder about you more and more.
Then I look at your highest suspects at the time, which were Chill and Scoop adding Noodles in too, two of which are now known innocents. Then this thought brought the fact if you are in fact a snitch...this would up my thoughts on Noodles, we all know the evil add one of their own to their lists for safe measure right.
Now I find my self wondering should I switch my top suspect of NJ with your name? I'm not sure I'm ready to vote you a this time really...I may be thinking way to much here...but it sure all seems to fall together.

 

[noodles62]

HN - who got the beat down? Will you be disclosing that? Just re-reading the rules/nightly events and I do not recall you stating who got the beat down...........

 

[[AC] Doomsday998]

Noodles it was chill. they were found in a pool of blood

 

[noodles62]

Noodles it was chill. they were found in a pool of blood

Thanks. I must have mis interpretted that; I know he said the snitches were busy/organized but I assumed they shanked him...........

 

[jpappy789]

Ok, first I was pulling these post to see how much BKW actually "pushed" for the everyone investigate the one above you thing. It was looking pretty bad to me too, then I had a thought of I wonder who was above and below him on the list (maybe he felt safe because the one that would investigate him was a team mate)....so I go back to look he is smack between two innocents..
Chill
Bkw1982
Dirtydawg10
Zsandmann
Dangerdoll
IceH2O
Jm1212
Rbishop
Pixl8r
Jpappy789
NeonJulie
Lady G
[AC] Tree_Hugger
noodles62
[AC] Doomsday998
[AC] Scoop411
OgreMkV
Jbradt
Judgemax
So, Dawg was under him....now I think to myself, would he really suggest doing this knowing the person under him was innocent, because if BKW was a snitch then of coarse he would of known before hand who was innocent. I have to say this lowers him tremendously on my list. Now, I thought of Z...and how he thought BKW was just trying to "help the town" (which I do agree with now that I look at the list) this made me wonder did Z already know he was innocent and seen an oppertunity to make him self look good, if BKW was shanked? If I believe this to be true...well guess what, that makes me wonder more about DD, she would be the one investigating Z if we went through with this plan...so if he IS snitch then I bet just about anything Doll is too or he would of not said anything.

Makes sense G, but remember that once Dawg agreed with Bkw's plan he labeled Dawg as a suspect...and he was the dreaded 3rd vote on Dawg. It would have been very risky for a snitch to come out with a plan had it been put into effect but at the same time I would think a snitch would know that the town wouldn't come together. The fact that Chill is gone (who Bkw would have "investigated") and Dawg (who would have investigated Bkw) seems more and more like damage control to me.

For reference here is the final vote tally

Day 1

LG-1- NJ

RB-1- Jb

NJ-3-LG TH RB Noodles

Scoop-1- Z

Bkw-1-Ice,Dawg

Dawg-5-jm12, DD,Bkw,Ice RB

Ogre-1- Jpap

Chill-1- Doom

Doom-1- Chill



no votes: pixl8r, [AC] Scoop411, OgreMkV, Judgemax


Lots of single votes out there.

 

[jm1212]

I have to agree, I still do like jbradt *(actually I think Chill wasn't on my list but jbradt was) as a bit guilty and his last post stating he would sit out because he iffended rb, I think was a clever ploy... and screams being coached.

this caught my eye also, especially since he previously posted claiming that he does not have a guilt factor

 

[noodles62]

Makes sense G, but remember that once Dawg agreed with Bkw's plan he labeled Dawg as a suspect...and he was the dreaded 3rd vote on Dawg. It would have been very risky for a snitch to come out with a plan had it been put into effect but at the same time I would think a snitch would know that the town wouldn't come together. The fact that Chill is gone (who Bkw would have "investigated") and Dawg (who would have investigated Bkw) seems more and more like damage control to me.

I disagree w/ Lady G's theory. snitches appeared innocent on night one, so how would bkw "know" who was innocent? All investigations were basically useless last night form what I am reading in the rules, so how would anyone "know" who was or was not innocent when everyone appeared that way anyway? I thought there was no other communication so knowing would have been impossible. Does that make sense?