Mafia #44 Christmas At ACville

[piggy67]

cat, has you position changed on pig? Where do you stand as far as him?

so Jl,tring to put me back into the spot light,imo that's a good way to take the heat off you by pointing my way,but that's ok.

 

[plantling]

Looking forward to the HN/Catfish bout, scheduled for later today. With no Ice or Ogre, we haven't had any good fist fights lately.

:laugh::laugh::laugh: LMAO, me too!


I also noticed that Noodles seemed to disappear yesterday. Sploke has been very quiet also. Perhaps it's RL but he hasn't said a whole lot this game.

 

[piggy67]

We are down 2 innocents, and that sucks. I can honestly say that I am lost as to a good vote. I liked cat's logic for voting piggy, and so voted piggy, thinking mafia. No good, the 3-- person came in all weird-like and was killed. I totally understand why he got the votes he did, but I wish we had voted on someone who could have shown us something. By voting him out, we learned nothing via interactions with other people, which is unfortunate. Then the mafia take out Eddie, for which I don't blame them. His posts were driving me nuts, and he was giving off an odd vibe. The big question is, did the mafia take him out because he was picking on one of them, or to totally screw up the town's plan of grilling him before night "tonight"? Back to where I started, I voted piggy, feeling good about it, but my feelings about cat are currently up in the air, leaving me stuck. I would like to vote for piggy still, but if Cat is mafia, I don't want to be led around by him. *sigh*

John, I am about to post a list...just wanted to give you a heads up. I do promise to include a vote, if that helps.

An incomplete list, with only pertinent thoughts....

10, mafia --- 1, innocent

johnlarson66 - 4 - I know, a surprise turnaround. But we are of like minds on a few players, and as I know I am not psychic, either you are and are sending good-jl-vibes, or you are not evil elf scum.

dirtydawg10 - 3 - I find myself agreeing with at least part of what he says about DD and the Eddie hit -

Dangerdoll - 8 - following Dawg's post mentioned above, she jumps all over the whole "off course I was being set up" angle. This seems to be a very convenient way to shift blame away from herself, without having to be the one to bring it up. If she is evil, this was exactly the out she needs....

catfish69hunter - 6 - nudged up from innocent, not sure he's mafia, but also not feeling trusting of him

piggy67 - 8 - Still not feeling happy elf vibes from him. I don't like the tone of his posts, or how he still seems to be leaving his thoughts out of his posts. Also, statistically speaking, one of the newbs should be mafia. After last night, piggy and virt are the only ones left.

Virtuoso2K12- still not feeling too hot about him. Same stats reason given above in "piggy."

I vote to lynch Piggy.

I work late tomorrow, then am going to visit my friend and her new baby in the hospital. If I get back in time, I am willing to swtich my vote to one of my higher numbers above to help the town.

G'Nite!

hahahaha,you say you are lost as too a good vote(but you vote for me),"not feeling happy elf vibes","leaving thoughts out",and"a newb has to be evil"These are your reasons for voting me,i'm a newb,but that seems like your on the cat wagon to me,why are you and JL on the cat wagon?cohorts?is this a mafia trick to sway the other players into your way of thinking,are those really valid reasons to vote or are you grabbing at straws?

 

[Sploke]

fire: I don't get your point about eddie being hit. Wouldn't they want him around to cause more drama and confusion? Wouldn't they want him to be around so we waste another night lynching an innocent when they could then take out 2 vets instead?

I was thinking about this earlier as well - it was pretty clear that if Eddie was still around today, he would very likely get lynched. Why would the mafia hit him then? Maybe we have a noobtard mafia crew


And yes plant....my wife and I just got ourselves an early christmas present - a Wii with the whole rock band setup. That has been my all consuming passion for about a week now

 

[Sploke]

And don't worry JL you aren't off my radar, its just that DD was a new appearance that I wanted to address when I was thinking about it. Although you would be one to hit a dead man walking (eddie) from a mafia position to throw everyone off the trail. Hm.

 

[Hooked Newbie]

Ok, getting caught up before I go back through the post numbers that I have jotted down and start asking my own questions.

Odd that cat would be answer questions from HN. HN is supposedly cat's top suspect. Cat should be asking the questions. How do you kick weasels by calling them sir and kissing their rear. Maybe it is a trap.

There are lots of questions to ask HN.

I'm sure there are... I'm glad to have time to answer them now.

HN, never took you for a skimmer.

So which is worse, having a lone vote for someone you think is mafia or jumping on a runaway train? I have never known you to be a follower, but you sure rode that train.

We know that rb likes to give hints in his commentary, the foot prints in the snow could very easily be you. I really can't see who else it could be, if not meant to be you - then who?

I am glad to see you vote for V2K, I just wonder if it will stick until the next train comes by.

As far as noods and cat, aren't they just about on everyone's list. Any fresh thoughts or just going with the flow?

Are you implying that jpap and I are together or leading? I must have missed something in my skimming and came up with something different than your skimming. I would like to know what you mean about such a statement.

I'm not a "skimmer", but truthfully I've had better things to do than pay my usual level of attention to the game. I would have said speed reading, but c'mon... someone would have renamed it skimming anyways.

I'm not sure that I've ever intentionally left a lone vote out there. I've also been very vocal in the past about those who do. The way I figure it is that a lone vote on someone (even if they are believed mafia) does nothing to help gain info for the town. I'll enter the fray everytime. Those that won't seem to be the ones with something to hide.

I'm not real sure about the footprints thing. I need to go back and read Bob's post and the posts that fell soon before night. I suck at figuring out his clues.

My fresh thoughts will be forthcoming. Yes, they are on most people's radar. That may be a byproduct of me not being able to question people myself. That will change during the week.

I said that you and Jpap are "leading" based on your input and questioning of everyone. Whether that's in the town's interest or if you two are leading in different directions remains to be seen.

Dd: how am I only focusing in on you? So far today I've questioned piggy, Hirt, and noods. You are the only one to respond so far. Normally you being defensive doesn't bother me but you seem to be grasping at straws to find a reason to suspect me...

Hn: how am I leading the town, by being vocal? Nothing new there. And it's not like I'm suggesting people to follow me...

See above. There's no accusation there (yet), just an observation about the input you and JL have been producing.

 

[Hooked Newbie]

Woo hoo Game on lets go

I quoted this only because you were the very first to post in the thread.

First why are all of you folks trying to find out about Virt AND also Aqua wasnt from mexico if you look at the info they provided.

This is something that I think is evil trying to jump up on the new player. do we have a group of evil getting jumpy to play there pap. I think you just may be leading ther charge there.

So you decided to lash out at people who were looking at any information or details possible. You called Pap out on it, but I was the one that originally posed the question. Why?

Well I think that the confusion thing is a little distancing tact dont you JL?

Asking JL's opinion early (and you do in later posts as well). Not distancing, but are you trying to befriend someone you know isn't evil?

So Eddie have you played before? you seem to have jumped right to the guns. It seems as though you have been coached to say something or you just have this awesome natural talent for mafia.

O really a steelers referance nice but to let you know I am a penguins fan myself. Also I think there is a lot more to you than what your letting on. As for me "never knowing" is that a referance for you hitting me tonight with the Grinchs hit? I would bet that there is "something more"!

Afraid to actually say anything because someone might accuse you of something? OR Are you actually that incapiable of making a thought of your own?

MY vote is for the first.

First Eddie I'm worried how did you know I'm from the burgh area when it isnt stated in my info. second I Agree with noodles SOMEONE used that statement alot I just cant place it. There is a lot more to you than Anyone already knows. YOU just dont set right with me right now. so until farther review or a better idea.

I vote to lynch Eddiecorrea

Well because I just happened to agree with some one on something I'm teaming up with them? Wow you ARE being coached.:lipssealedsmilie:

Major NO NO there EDDIE for that my vote stays were it is.

Once again this means nothing in mafia. Yea you could be a noob but your coach may not have told you that and now your laying back instead of pressing like you were a few minutes ago. This could mean a few things like 1 your coach told you to lay back 2 your getting over whelmed by the grilling or 3 you just cant keep out

Going HARD at Eddie. He did look bad, but if any charge was led it was you in the lead.

Wow a whole lot said in the last few hours but no real content. I would have to say that right now most of the mafia is laying low letting the town turn round and round on itself.

JL your digging hard to find something and some pays off and some is just junk ends.

Noodles your content so far has not had much more than chit chat and self defense.

DD your deflecting a lot of stuff and trying to get people to look the other way. When I played agains you and you were evil you played better than that so I believe that your leaning innocent.

As for the noobs they are playing like noobs and showing more than they should. My biggest concern right now is Eddie. So with that said IDK if there is a clear choice right now so I'm staying were I am.

Randomly mention 3 players, but your still convinced of Eddie here.

OK JL not that I believe your Innocent yet but I believe that your not as bad off now as you were a bit ago. Look at this from the first post that piggy made they were out to gun for JL. Look at this I mean really if this isnt a Noob player being told to jump on one player and ride them to the ground I dont know what is. Only a few of piggys post have nothing to do with JL and they all are talking to noodles about his other avatar and thats it.


Now on to you piggy you couldnt just vote for Jl once but you had to vote for him twice and in back to back posts from you. Why????? If you tell us who your leader is well let you live an extra day.

I retract my vote for Eddie and I vote to lynch Piggy

What changed your mind about Eddie so suddenly? Did someone tell you to go from one noob to another? You accuse them of EXACTLY what you were doing with Eddie. Were you told that he was going to be hit and to move your vote?

Well pig what made you jump onto jl and not anyone else? I want a full explanation of the reason behind his evilness. give me posts quotes and anything else you can find. Also as for me being an evil team mate with him you must be joking if you look at it plain as day I have looked at everyone even Jl and as you see from my posts he is not clear from my vision either. You just are standing out there more because your vote is "on a hunch" then your backing off that "hunch" you dont know quite what to do and your posts are spaced out in time as though you needed to ask the proper way to put what you should say.

Let me use and reword your question and comment bolded above... Well Cat, what made you jump onto Piggy and not anyone else? You seemed pretty convinced of Eddie's guilt.

First off tonight sucked, Eddie I must say that early on you really looked coached and if you dont get a sour taste from this first game I would love to play with you again. Now on to buisness.



First lets look at the way votes finally fell. Ok as we see T3L Caught the major windfall of their actions on the last minute joining the game and voting. I believe only 1 mafia joined in on the lynching of T3l and I believe that because the mafia knew that was a sinking ship as soon as he showed up. they let the town do the job for them.





Now lets look at my next big thing. here we have what I feel is a major tell on the part of these 2 folks i just quoted. As we see they both voted for the same person for the first night. Then they come out after nightfall and jump right back to gunning for noodles. Now this is what I get from this, and its that these 2 are a communicating pair. Now I do not know for 100% that its the evil pair because I feel plant of all people would be a better vet than that to slip up like that but... who knows.

All I know is that I'm going back to look harder at these 2.

Now you are questioning Dawg and Plantling. Can't make up your mind? Shotgun theory is usually very effective at leaving little traces to get caught on when evil.

Ok since your folks dont understand my line of thinking, here it is.
1.) First off, having played enough games as both innocent and mafia, I know that for a fact every time some one who pulls a stunt like that one T3L did it would peek the interest of the innocents.

2.)That made him look completely mafia, It even did to me after I read It when I got home last nite.

3.) With what they did, the innocents jumped on what looked to be a blattent noob mafia mistake.

4.)Now as for the mafia they were watching this as well and me believing that the mafia arent stupid they let this train run right over T3L.

5.)If mafia was smart as I believe, they would have just let one of their players on T3L so when it came back that he was Innocent it would make it hard for us to find the lone evil in 6 different people.

6.)It is all about risk negation. Noodles It has been established rather well in this game you have been mafia & as for you there Dawg I have played games with you where you were mafia. So with that established lets look at this. Would you as mafia have jumped all your guys onto that or would you have made some of your guys stay off that because you knew it was a sinking ship?

So tell me what would you folks have done?

That sounds like you may have had some inside info. Personally, I think killing Eddie was stupid. He would have been hard to not lynch today. Your vote ended up where it didn't matter. As night came close it was a horse race between JL & 3L. Yes, I did move my vote onto a train. I always do if it may matter. I chose an innocent, but at the time (and probably still now) I viewed JL as less likely evil and/or at least more helpful.


I'm going to reread some stuff after lunch and I'll come up with a weighted list in a bit... I'll use a system of A-F with A being innocent so that it'll be a familiar system and grade for Virtu. You, I'm not sure about yet but you have changed your mind an awful lot and that I always find concerning.

 

[Madcrawdad]

I quoted this only because you were the very first to post in the thread.



So you decided to lash out at people who were looking at any information or details possible. You called Pap out on it, but I was the one that originally posed the question. Why?



Asking JL's opinion early (and you do in later posts as well). Not distancing, but are you trying to befriend someone you know isn't evil?















Going HARD at Eddie. He did look bad, but if any charge was led it was you in the lead.



Randomly mention 3 players, but your still convinced of Eddie here.



What changed your mind about Eddie so suddenly? Did someone tell you to go from one noob to another? You accuse them of EXACTLY what you were doing with Eddie. Were you told that he was going to be hit and to move your vote?



Let me use and reword your question and comment bolded above... Well Cat, what made you jump onto Piggy and not anyone else? You seemed pretty convinced of Eddie's guilt.



Now you are questioning Dawg and Plantling. Can't make up your mind? Shotgun theory is usually very effective at leaving little traces to get caught on when evil.



That sounds like you may have had some inside info. Personally, I think killing Eddie was stupid. He would have been hard to not lynch today. Your vote ended up where it didn't matter. As night came close it was a horse race between JL & 3L. Yes, I did move my vote onto a train. I always do if it may matter. I chose an innocent, but at the time (and probably still now) I viewed JL as less likely evil and/or at least more helpful.


I'm going to reread some stuff after lunch and I'll come up with a weighted list in a bit... I'll use a system of A-F with A being innocent so that it'll be a familiar system and grade for Virtu. You, I'm not sure about yet but you have changed your mind an awful lot and that I always find concerning.

Interesting case, HN. I do believe, however, you've got a vote on V2K that you've yet to give a reason for...unless I missed it.

 

[Madcrawdad]

Unofficial vote count (thru 648)

Noodles (2) - plant 533, mad 639
Pig (2) - JL 534, FD 607
DD (1) - Pig 550
Cat (1) - Dawg 584
V2K (1) - HN 595

No votes: JPap, Noodles, DD, Cat, Sploke, V2K

I pulled this together pretty quickly, so if you notice any errors, feel free to correct.

 

[Sploke]

At the risk of aligning myself with piggy, I vote to lynch DD. Mostly just to bring her into the race a little right now to see what happens.