Mafia #44 Christmas At ACville

see my thougth is plant you wouldnt worry if you got the gift you would just not open it. now your all up in arms about it and that means that you have something to hide. what is it plant?
 
where the heck did everyone go?
 
so assuming cat is telling the truth, we have a few situations. I am leaning toward the elf side for her, but still unsure. So, she can decline the present or not. 2/3 chance to double her vote, 1/3 chance she switches sides. We can either lynch her or not. If she opens it and turns good, or we just lynch her now, either way they are down one elf. If she declines it and we lynch her anyway, down one elf (still assuming she is evil). If she doubles her vote and is evil, and we lynch her, down one elf.

If she is good, she opens it and turns evil and we lynch her, we are less one innocent, but we would be anyway. The preemptive lynching just serves to prevent them from gaining one more evil elf. If she is good and opens it, doubling her vote, that could be a good thing. If she declines, nothing happens. I'm trying to resolve this into situations to count whether it would be better, odds-wise, to just lynch her anyway to ensure the elves don't get another one up on us.
So you wanna lynch everyone you send a present to just in case? LMAO!

Here is what I see. if she opens it then we would have a next night lynch on our hands.
Yeah, let's turn her evil so we can lynch her!

REAL SMART.

see my thougth is plant you wouldnt worry if you got the gift you would just not open it. now your all up in arms about it and that means that you have something to hide. what is it plant?

See plant you pressed to know and now that you do you dont want to know why?
I've said all along that the only purpose the present would serve is to confirm that you are an innocent. I've said whoever receives it, good or evil will probably not want to open it as it is too risky. What's so hard to understand about that??? That was never a question for me.

What I took exception to is the careless let's lynch her just in case attitude. If you wanna make a case against me do it and vote for me.
 
Cat,you and plant rambling back and forth,suspicious to me.1)i don't think you sent a present to anyone,and i really don't think to plant.why would you reveal your roll,knowing you might get hit for it,and sending it to plant?2)i think you and plant are communicating and tring to decieve the town with this present nonsense3)why would you use it this early in the game anyway?you both seem deceptive to me.soooo for right now.....I vote to lynch catfish69hunter.
 
Here is what I see. if she opens it then we would have a next night lynch on our hands.

Cat, have you confirmed with rb what will happen if the present is opened... ie, if opened does rb just say 'a present was delivered and opened,' or does he say what actually happens to the opener? IMO there's a decent chance that if opened, the effects won't actually be known.

Also, I think that folks might be getting to hung up on the present at this point. While it will serve to bolster your claim, I can see it possibly playing into the evil's hands. You say in the quote above that if plant opens the gift, we just lynch her the next night.... I don't understand this.

If plant is scum, she's not going to open the present. If she's innocent, she's still unlikely to open the present.... but let's say she does, and gets turned evil, and then lynched the next night. It's not really 'no harm, no foul' for the town, as we technically lynched scum... we've really given the evil elves an extra night for killing someone while we play around with the gift.

Due to the chance for switching sides, I can't see anyone opening a gift at this point. Maybe as a last chance game-saver when things look absolutely hopeless, but not now, when it could be a game tipper.
 
Clarification.....

When the recipient of a gift ackowledges they have it, I will announce in the thread that "a present has been delivered to XXXXXX"


2 hours before the next night fall....I will announce whether they chose to open it or not....

After nightfall, I will say to who and what the gift was, or the actions of the gift...
 
Bala signals the Town.....

A present has been delivered to plantling.....
 
Not jumpy just trying to make sense out of u, Cat. Thanks for the present, but all it will do is confirm whether or not u sent the present. That is if you or myself are not hit tonight. And as I stated only an innocent who would wish to become evil would open it so why is opening it even a question?

Sorry you have wasted your efforts. I wish u and the innocent communicators had been paying better attention. I just want to point out that I tried to get pple to realize that V2K and DD were most likely innocent. Why would an evil do that? Also if I were evil, I wouldn't have tried to vote out Noodles both days as I would have wanted to keep up the numbers of the evils, even if they weren't communicating they could still help. So are you sore b/c I voted for you and called u out on your theory about me and Dawg?

You wouldn't have known what noodles was.

And the next night, the lump of coal will be delivered as well, so we will be down another innocent one way or another when that happens.

The lump of coal has to be delivered night 2 or 3 according to the rules. This coming nightfall is night 3 so there is no next night. If it's not delivered someone will be randomly chosen.

That's pretty much the only confimation needed. Cat is definitely who he says he is.

I agree. cat is who he says he is.
 
AquariaCentral.com