MAFIA #5 The Play.....

[judgemax]

The waiting is what spooks me. I have no doubts that you are smart, but if I were you, given the last game. It'd be a great move to wait for a "strong" suspect as the town marched on. So, even if you have no "strong" suspects, who are your strongest right now. .............Um.. could you at least give me time to form an opinion?..I mean jeez, HN,I have posted a list of who I think it might be, we just started day two.I have some suspicions, Thats what I said, I am waiting until I have a lil more tham , hmms, thats odds, How am I supposed to help, if I am to busy fighting you the whole time?....I don't know what you want me to say HN, watch me, please do, I am not going to scream a billion times I am innocent, I have said it, and thats that...

Mine are...

1. You
2. JL
3. Zsand
4. Jo
5. Ice

Like I said before, I think we are up against a much more experienced and vocal mafia than last time. Notice my vote is on #3 at the moment? I need to be convinced and the only one that seems completely innocent right now is Coler. Oh, and your "be like me last game" post to him wasn't lost...

I don't get what the last comment means?..I wasn't expecting it to get lost?..and, i wasn't saying be like me, i was saying he is like me in the last game, mostly everyone is going to assume he is innocent. period, I MEANT NOTHING MORE THAN SIMPLY THAT.

Almost my bed time but the Night's events have my list a bit shuffled. In no particular order:

joander: see my previous post quoting them. It just seems a strange thing to say we shouldn't read too much into your wording when that is exactly what we do. Some folks gave you sound advice earlier to read what you type, we will read all kinds of things in it, some help, some drive us crazy with doubt. But you really shot up my list after that post.

DD: A cool player, always in the background, no real meat to go on, just a feeling. I felt this feeling from DD last round too, a ghost in the machine I guess.

Ogre: I was with ya 100% till you pulled your vote right before Night, that spooked me a bit. Hopefully you can elaborate on why you did it.

jpappy and bkw: Playing much the same as last game but quieter players always deserve more careful watching, they post less so you really have to look at what they do say. I usually reread these guys posts multiple times. (Mmmm mousepad. - That's a joke from last round, don't stake me up for it.)

judgemax: I don't see that you are really playing any differently than last game except for your tone, but you aren't being jumped on either so I can see how you would be in higher spirits. I see you wanting to bring the ghost list into it again and I'd warn you to watch that. People know how it works now and I don't think the Mafia are going to fall for it twice. But if your Mafia your going to want everyone watching pm's and anyone that does it is going to get burned like a witch. i am not saying I am putting out another list, I have absolutely no intentions of doing so, I am sure it would get me killed, but I am watching, and did see some stuff that was very suspicious..I already explained, that its not just the pmms..that wasn't the whole trick, but again, If I name them, i get nowhere, because they alter their behavior, and then, i am back to square one...

Hooked Newbie: I think you're Innocent. You don't seem as quiet or withdrawn as last game, I went back and read the last day or so, man when you know the answers it seems so obvious. You have every right to doubt me and I'll leave it to you to sort out.

 

[joander123]

Make it 4 for Jo 8)

 

[FireDancer7905]

Ogre, I am sad to be on your list. I honestly had odd vibes coming from both joander and clown lover. I had posted earlier that this was the case. I couldn't make up my mind, so I flipped a coin. Literally. I posted just after I got home from seeing Harry Potter 5, which was much longer than I had thought.

I have some current suspicions.

Joander, yet again, is protesting his innocence. He is also urging people to pay less attention, possibly to try and step out of the limelight.

DangerDoll, post 54, casting suspicion on Coler. Then the mafia try to strike Coler. Just something to look at.

Ogre, weak, and possibly even a bit vengeful, but I work from the basis that I am innocent. Putting me at the top of your list makes me think that you are not, though we have played together enough that I feel pretty safe in saying that I am not a threat as any sort of player, and that you know that, too. I know, hypocritical and paranoid, but there ya go. I hope that I give you reasons to believe in my innocence.

Cheers, brandy

 

[Coler]

There was a PM FROM Rb for posting during the night. As I suspect someone else got since I saw there's deleted as well. Try it tomorrow, post after night time.

correct - me too

 

[Coler]

wooh boy! I guess, i missed alot! Coler, glad you made it, now you get to feel how i felt last game, its kinda headswelling..your now 99% innocent( the mafia will doubt you! )
Therefore, i will be aligning myself with you, you are now my closest friend. This was a good strategy last game BTW JL! now, off to the races...lol

Hmmmm...really

well...you were entirely convinced about joander the last time right ? surely nothing has changed your mind ? Give us your top suspects and why.

 

[Coler]

I'm currently thinking both joander and clown-lover may have been innocent btw.

The switch to clown lover automatically makes joander into a top suspect - would be good mafia play

 

[Rbishop]

Update...5:30 AM EST..thru post 476

to lynch....

joan (4) by jl66 (405) cory (431) joan (465) kotd (470)

zsand (1) by Hook (423)


5 of 17 have voted on Day 2

15 of 17 have posted on Day 2



Night Fall will be at approx 5 AM EST Wednesday

 

[Sploke]

I know Coler and Z seem to think Sploke might be innocent, I trust them as being innocent, but Sploke makes this list then his vote makes no sense to me. Coler is on the list at the top! Jpappy gets the vote. Is that because there was no reason to vote for someone that was going to be hit that night?

The list I wrote was not in any kind of order, so just because Coler was at the top, didn't mean he was my most suspected...suspect. Coler has moved, in my mind, to about 95% innocent...There's still a doubt about the 50-50 chance but I think its pretty slim.

I gave the reasons I voted jappy, and I did it fairly early on, given the amount of last minute voting that went on. I stated before, I didn't get any mafia vibe from clown (for good reason, apparently), and I wasn't wholly convinced on Jo, at least not enough to jump on the then-forming lynch train for him.

HN, I really hope you're innocent. I've been thinking along the same lines as you, so I'm making it pretty clear that I'm willing to go along with you. If you're mafia, I'm screwed :wall:.

I have to go over my excel spreadsheet and sort some new information out when I get to work, I'll post some more information on suspects then.

 

[Coler]

Today I have two thoughts on how I will analyse the game...which would probably lead me in two different directions.

1) I garnered some information just before nightfall last night by watching the thread, I will say no more (no it has nothing to do with pm's)
2) Examining the voting on Joander and Clownlover

What do you think, fellow townies (you know who you are) ?

I have a hunch that a) we are dealing with more than 4 mafia, and b) Joander and Clownlover may both be innocent.

 

[Sploke]

That is another thing that make's me leery of Judge though. She had to know that after last game, many would believe and possibly follow.

Agreed, at the moment.

Today I have two thoughts on how I will analyse the game...which would probably lead me in two different directions.

1) I garnered some information just before nightfall last night by watching the thread, I will say no more (no it has nothing to do with pm's)
2) Examining the voting on Joander and Clownlover

What do you think, fellow townies (you know who you are) ?

I have a hunch that a) we are dealing with more than 4 mafia, and b) Joander and Clownlover may both be innocent.

Not sure about the mafia thing, but the more jo posts, the more I'm beginning to lean toward another innocent. Its possible that the mafia figured if they could swing the vote to clown, we would go back after jo afterward and waste two nights lynching innocents. That maybe be giving them too much credit, but its plausible.

If that was the case, then jpappy comes off my list as well, since my whole reasoning was, I thought jo was mafia, and jpappy was telling him to basically cool it or he'd get lynched. If jo is innocent, that theory falls apart.

Ice and Jensons are definitely suspect for that last minute voting for clown. I still don't understand that one, but whatever. KOTD is also tentatively on my list. He was quiet and pretty subdued all last game and ended up being the Don, but I'm not sure if he's just a less-vocal player than some in general. Its hard to get a read from the quiet ones.


Right now on my "presumed innocent" list is HN, ZSand, coler and mal, and I think I've given reasons for all those already at some point. Comments?