MAFIA #5 The Play.....

[Sploke]

First off, BOOYAAA, got one. Thats sweet satisfaction right there.

But, we lost HN, which just sucks. I think he was onto some really good stuff, so his posts will definitely warrant some more analysis. One down...

 

[IceH2O]

Okay so I let the other games blind me. Not good, well good you guys were smart enough to toast a mafia but not good I wasn't able to see JM was mafia.

I'm going to have to watch everyone even closer then I was. Maybe even go back and reread the other threads looking for clues of how they reacted to certain aspects of the game.

HN is going to be a hard loss to swallow. While we were a bit back and forth it helped bring other things to light, wish I had followed his lead.

I have to go do the daily grind,see you tonight.

 

[Coler]

These aren't in sequence but have a think about them :

bkw defends JM...JM was obviously mafia imo

My vote goes to joander, reading through the post judge seems nervous and over happy, but we all came into this game with high standards for her. its not fair to vote for her just because she hasn't produced. how can she follow up last game? hard to be consistent when she did wht she did last game, im thinkin we are seein the real judge

I vote to lynch jo

DD votes to lynch mee-mee. I can't see much mafia about mee-mee personally. The voting between Joander and JM is very tight at this point.

hmmmmmm.... I've been reading through this again and and I have to agree with Jo and Ice. Mee-mee IS wasting votes. Now she is even voting on JL who isn't even here and hasn't been due to vacation or whatever.
I think I will vote to lynch Mee-mee so that anyone that might be thinking the same thing doesn't feel as their votes will be wasted.
I lynch to vote mee-mee

Then HN or sploke or someone says something about mee-mee voting randomly...DD says :

I see not only me has seen this. What a good point, this soooo solidifies my vote.

Then Ogre votes as well. Also, look at the bit in bold that I highlighted...RIP HN

I vote to lynch mee-mee. My reasons have been previously posted.

Personally, I think Ice and hooked Newbie are innocent. If these two could get together instead of fighting, we might beat the mafia.

To repeat, I believe that most of the mafia are in super-stealth mode and just hoping that we will lynch each other and they can slip by un-noticed. I'm moving them to my list after mee-mee.

These were prior to the above posts...Ice starts on mee-mee first, I think :

Ok I need to hit the bed, hopefully mee mee screams mafia to more people then just me.

Guess we'll see in the morning, if I'm still here. I think I rocked the boat pretty hard tonight.

Defending both JM and Joander :

Well I'm not convinced either JM or Jo are mafia. JMs posting looks no different to me other then she hasn't thrown out a magic list so she isn't as sure as she was last game. Jo, you lol, hasn't really posted anything besides the "slip" that makes me think he is mafia. Though he is a RS fan thats not enough in my book.

Mee-mee 2 wasted voted smells tons more like mafia then the 2 on top right now.

I vote to lynch mee-mee

2 wasted votes in 2 nights smells like mafia to me.

Here Ice tries to say I may be mafia :

I know its slim but a good leader covers all bases.

How many times have you seen a suicide squeeze put down to score a run?

Not much but thats why it works when they do because no one expects it.

If Coler is as smart as we all think then I wouldn't put it past him at all.

Same again :

Back to Post 558 where I brought up the planned hit on Coler by HIS crew.

I read at least twice where he made a point to have the Dr protect him. So the 50/50 became less of a threat. If the Dr had protected him and the hit didn't miss he would still have been safe.

I just found post 558 : its here below...now, read 558 and see if you still think Ice is innocent, I've quoted as much as possible. The Red is original Ice in his quoting.

Something strikes me as a little funny rereading posts.

I know we're supposed to think Coler is innocent because of the botched hit.
But as its been pointed out it could have been a ploy. With a 50/50 shot it could be worth taking.

Reason I bring this up.

Post 269



Voted Sploke taking his vote off himself

Post 271



By this post I'm assuming Coler doesn't trust Zman.

Post 294



Here Zman has Coler listed

Post 306

Zman calls out Sploke, who Coler has a vote on

Sploke answers in post 309 and 311

Zman says he got the answer he was looking for in post 312



Post 313



Post 336 Sploke has Coler on the list



Coler never questions this

Out of the blue Post 366



Could all 3 be mafia playing us? Finger pointing at one another listing each other as mafia and voting then pulling votes.

Post 368



HN even doubts Sploke

Post 370



Confused?? Hinting at a hit

Then he gets hit that night.

Coincidence? Protection among friends?

Anyone want to chime in?

I vote to lynch 1 of the 3 lol

I'll decide after seeing some responses

 

[Coler]

My list of Mafia candidates...I feel about as strongly about DD as I do about Ice...bkw is slightly stronger as a candidate that he was yesterday but still weakish overall. Ogre is beginning to have a case to answer (no offence buddy there could be a very good explanation) :

Judgemax (RIP)
Dangerdoll
Ice
bkw
Ogre (weak)
Joander (weak)

 

[Coler]

Go and read post 558...voting is tight between Joander and JM at this time. Ice actually 'votes' for one of me, Sploke, ZS or tries to get people interested. But, nobody else jumping on board, he then later votes mee-mee

I think an explanation is called for Ice...

Oh, it would be nice to hear from DD as well

 

[IceH2O]

Coler I don't have time right now as I should be leaving, I just came to make a post and let the others ponder and debate while I'm at work.

I want everyone to read Colers last post,that way you can see what I wrote,read it then reread it. But while reading keep in mind that Zman pulled his vote from JM when it was to close to call who would get lynched. Then voted Jpappy,my guess hoping people would fall off JM to Jpappy. It didn't work and he quickly jumped back in on the JM vote.

Looks to me like we have the 4 mafia right there, JM Coler Zman and Sploke.

Why jump around on JM so close Z? Trying a last second save? Not working so jump back on to make it look good? I can't say I'm buying it.

Also point out that HN listed me and Z as suspects because of the TRIAD discussion thinking we were on the same team. Then HN gets hit. Well I have to think that HN was right about 1 of those players being mafia.

What do you guys think...I REALLY have to go now I'm late as heck.

 

[Coler]

ok saying that I'm mafia really confirms to me anyway that you either have no read on the game, or you are mafia.

Judgemax was lynched...Judgemax was mafia. It looks to me, although I would have to check, that Sploke and ZS also voted JM. Apparently ZS went to jpappy - I missed that.

You still don't explain why you voted mee-mee.

Being named as a candidate seems to have panicked you.

 

[Coler]

finally for now,

We take it your list is JM (now dead), Coler, Sploke, ZS

If you're innocent you should probably vote for one, or make a case against one...apparently the case against me is that I was hit and missed

come on be serious.

Even JM didn't try that line to save herself.

Or are you just seeing if you can hook a couple of votes for anyone of the three and then ride the lynch wagon home.

If you're mafia then the three people left on your list are innocent. I have more currently faith in their innocence than in your list; of course I am always open to persuasion, but to be honest it may be an uphill struggle on this one.

 

[Sploke]

Ice I'm almost out of the JM party. Her posts to night are more consistent and I'm seeing a very familiar group of people voting for her. jl jumping from jp to her spooked me a bit. Not sure I like mee-mee yet though.

I remove my vote from JudgeMax

I find it VERY alarming that with Max leading the vote by one, you'd remove your vote while addresing Ice (who has a worthless vote on mee-mee).

Townies, I think this is even more reason to vote for JMax. If she's mafia Ice & Z may have outted themselves, if innocent feel free to lynch me if you think I am mafia. If I'm hit tonight, you know why.

HN was right, Z. Even though you put your vote back, it was fairly suspect and worried me a lot.

I vote to lynch jpappy789

No vote that I could find on Day 1 but certainly some posts, playing a laid back game, most recent person to vote on joander today, which tipped the scale. Too many alarm bells ringing in the back of my head right now, the Mafia this game is GOOD and I'm running in circles trying to find any sign of a weak spot in their armor.

After a case was made for him, I started to see it...after all, he was my vote on day one. He's still on my list, I saw JM as a higher priority though.

My vote goes to joander, reading through the post judge seems nervous and over happy, but we all came into this game with high standards for her. its not fair to vote for her just because she hasn't produced. how can she follow up last game? hard to be consistent when she did wht she did last game, im thinkin we are seein the real judge

I vote to lynch jo

This vote put Jo one vote ahead of JM.

congratz JM, you are def. a mafia... picking at me when i was one of many to throw stones at you.

I feel bad for not keeping my word, as i believe someones word needs to be valuable, but come on, JM needs to go.

i retract my vote on myself and vote to lynch judgemax

I'm still thinking Jo is not mafia, just naive newb to mafia. Especially after that barrage of posting when JM realized she was as good as dead and did everything she could to throw Jo under the bus in her place. I was thinking before hand that whatever side Jo is on, JM is on the other one because they have been at odds pretty much the whole time. With JM being mafia, I'm thinking that helps clear Jo. Not completely, but its helping in my opinion.

hmmmmmm.... I've been reading through this again and and I have to agree with Jo and Ice. Mee-mee IS wasting votes. Now she is even voting on JL who isn't even here and hasn't been due to vacation or whatever.
I think I will vote to lynch Mee-mee so that anyone that might be thinking the same thing doesn't feel as their votes will be wasted.

I lynch to vote mee-mee

I see not only me has seen this. What a good point, this soooo solidifies my vote.

I don't know if DD is confused, or what. When she first talks about wasting votes, she is referring to Mee-mee's vote being wasted on a non-candidate.

I, and think HN as well, saw her comment as saying anyone who voted for mee-mee at that point was wasted, because he was also pretty much a non-candidate at that point. I would still like to hear some clarification on this line of thought because it doesn't make sense to me. I believe that mee-mee was wasting votes, but I also believe that, by the time DD voted, it was pretty clear that mee-mee was not going to be lynched at that point, it was going to be either jo or jm.

 

[Sploke]

Ok, so after my last post, you can see that DD is kind of tipping my radar. That might warrant some more though. Ice is currently my other top suspect as of now.

First off, I want to ackowledge the fact that yes, ZS Coler and I all seem to be in agreement on things so far. ZS switching votes made me nervous, but after he switched, I went back and looked at the pattern and got nervous myself. Add HN on the list and you have the first 4 votes for JM. I think its highly unlikely that any one of us is mafia, never mind all 3 (since we already know that HN was not), because those 4 votes are the bulk of why JM got lynched IMO.

Looking back - Ice voted to lynch clown fairly late in the day, possibly a tipping vote...not sure if that was ever resolved or not. Now, he's accusing myself, Z and Coler of all being mafia, which doesn't add up, in my mind. then, second day, votes mee-mee, who for hte most part isn't under consideration as a lynch candidate, other than being a second or third pick on a few lists.

Talk amongst yourselves....