Mafia #51 - Mafia Citizens - The Play

[bkw1982]

How can you be so sure this will give anything up on TRS or plant...TRS has said practically nothing in day two and who ever votes is going to change their stragdy...what "six" players do you think you are going to get info on by a kash vote and what are you basing this off? Say if kash is lynched and found innocent does that make TRS and plant innocent, but what if she is scum, then things change and you no longer have valid info.Just my opinion.

The six players are....(7 if you want to count kash)
trs-joke vote w/post claiming that he started a train. His claims sound like distancing. if Kash is guilty i bet he is too. doesn't mean if kash is innocent he is too, but would look less guilty IMO

bkw-voted for kash night 1, will prob vote for night 2. looks guilty if kash is innocent

Mad -voted for kash night 1 and 2. looks guilty if kash is innocent

Plant-vote switch plues night 2 vote, if kash is guilty, would look less guilty.

RB-made it possible for kash to putting the lynching vote on an innocent without reason.

coler-made it possible for kash to putting the lynching vote on an innocent without reason.

I have to agree with MC...we may learn about what Kash is but it wont give us much other than a vague direction. If she is a mucs then can we write plant off as innocent? Maybe. But the whole voting for Zig only to have the Kash vote "too late" could be a ploy. Very unlikely but still possible. TRS would be cleared a little bit, same with those who voted Kash night 1, but again you cannot count anyone innocent yet. And if she is innocent can we count everyone else as mucs? Obviously not, and I know everyone knows that but I am starting to think that maybe Kash isnt the smartest vote as of now. It would help to move on with her out of the spotlight but I would rather wait and choose a more thought out candidate. I would like to vote based on concrete evidence right now rather than the possiblities. As I have said before, Kashta may very well be a good PR so is it worth lynching her just because we might look at a few people a little differently? I don't think so. In the end she may be my choice, but I will wait until I have my responses responded to again.

Can i see some of that concrete evidence you have for TRS? Cause if it's concrete evidence you should share it.

JP you're looking a lil rebel scummy to me.

If Kash is a townie/PR then her time is already limited. The rebels prob came to the same conclusion and will hit her soon, or let her stay just to cause confusion.

Disclaimer.....the above comments are IMO. Some players were mentioned to lean a certain way depending on Kash's status, however that doesn't mean the opposite for that player is true: EX TRS does not necessarily look innocent if Kash is innocent.

 

[dirtydawg10]

It may end up getting me killed but I have to agree with Plant on this one. What is pro-town about not placing a vote for 2 days and waiting until 2 minutes before nightfall to save yourself? Wouldn't it be more beneficial to the town to get your thoughts and vote out early so people can react and possibly learn from it. Especially if you are a clear candidate to go home that night?

Even if she turns out not to be mucs I think the town needs to know what she is...jmho.

Kash...maybe you missed this post. Could you please comment on the portion in bold above.

 

[bkw1982]

This bugs me a lot. If I was on a team with her, why would I start the bandwagon and try to get people to vote for her? Why would I try to lynch her and not change my vote. Why would I vote for her again? I can answer all the questions for you, she is SCUM. Are you scum too? I think so.

Also did I change my vote last minute? no. hmm

TRS i guess you over looked the questions ppl raised about the above post. Could you explain why claim things that arent true?

 

[plantling]

You have answered mine but the same as everyone else, incomplete....Laying low buy keeping answers short...not like not being on.

Explain to me as u would a small child what I have left out and I will try and answer as best I can.

Plantling and Kashta seem to be ignoring my latest posts...





Not saying they need to be responded to right this second but I would like to know some opinions here...

Didn't realize u wanted my input as well. It seemed addressed to others at the time. I had already placed my vote where I think it should go and should have gone all along. Others I'm looking at are Z for his single vote on Maverick and the other votes on Zigman, RB and Coler and to a lesser extent CJT.

Un official but what I gather is

The Red Severum with (3) Zsandmann (235), Jpappy (339), Luvbugs (348)
Kashta with (2) Plantling (210), Madcrawdad (223)
Plantling with (1) mostlycichlids (300)

What I have:
day 2
kashta(4)-plant(210),red(220),mad(223),dawg(276)
red(3)-z(235),MC(286),JP(339)Luvb(348)
plant(1)-MC(300)

 

[bkw1982]

Day one switching to save your self makes sense, cause who wants to be out day 1? If it was done later in the game it would look suspicious.

by the same reasoning the vote switch seems to desperate for a day 1 move, especially since he moved from a known citizen.

I would be more worried by the absent of TRS, seemed to have disappeared after making a post full of untruths. Depending on how he responds will determine how i vote, either Kash or TRS. I would rather vote Kash, a lot of information about plant and TRS would be gained if she was lynched.

BKW...could you clarify who you are referring to in the first 2 paragraphs??

It was in response to some post about "if saving yourself is rebel scummy or not". The vote switcher is Plant and Kash is the person that saved themselves.

 

[dirtydawg10]

It was in response to some post about "if saving yourself is rebel scummy or not". The vote switcher is Plant and Kash is the person that saved themselves.

OK...I thought you were talking about the same person...lol.

However for clarification Kash did not switch her vote to save herself as you are suggesting. She placed her first vote 2 minutes before nightfall.

 

[dirtydawg10]

Oh...I forgot to add...Plant is not a "he" either, which added to my confusion...

 

[plantling]

Oh...I forgot to add...Plant is not a "he" either, which added to my confusion...

lol ya i got confused there too. Not the first time BKW has referred to me as a He tho.

 

[bkw1982]

Oh...I forgot to add...Plant is not a "he" either, which added to my confusion...

:jaw: Sorry Plant, you're uhhhhh so hot :footinmouth:

 

[plantling]

:jaw: Sorry Plant, you're uhhhhh so hot :footinmouth:

:lol: It's ok, lol.

But seriously IMO it would be a stupid stunt for any scum to pull, especially on the first day (by changing the vote the way I did) just to get recognition or whatever I'm being accused of when they can just sit and hide in the wings and let whatever happen happen.