What the mod can't skim?
lol
Thanks, I missed it. It was hidden in his post between some words.
Mafia #51 - Mafia Citizens - The Play
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What the mod can't skim?
lol
Thanks, I missed it. It was hidden in his post between some words.
The real vote count:
So far:
Kashta - plant (210), TRS (220), Mad (223), Dawg (276), Coler (375)
TRS - ZS (235), MC (286), jpap (339), Luvbugz (348)
Plant - MC (300)
Hmmmm, now what was I doing before Mad inturpted me? Maybe I will remember later.
So far:
Kashta - plant (210), TRS (220), Mad (223), Dawg (276), Coler (375)
TRS - ZS (235), MC (286), jpap (339), Luvbugz (348)
Plant - MC (300)
Hmmmm, now what was I doing before Mad inturpted me? Maybe I will remember later.
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And my objection was really not so much that Kashta voted to save herself. It was the timing of her vote. Ya excuses can be made for that but to me it still looks scummy as it left no room for discussion nor for others to change their votes.
I hate to be nit picky but it did sound like you were talking about votes on Kash would make HER talk less:Comments in red, just to tick off the anti-inside posts crowd hehehe. Plant we are obviously on different trains of thought with Kash's last minute vote to save herself. I agree with Dawg that it is better to get votes out earlier in the day so they can be discussed, but the vote for Zig alone doesn't bother me. I still think Kash could be a Muc, or a WG, or what ev, but IMO there are better suspects right now like Red and yourself. Also, the low posters (I'm giving Mav a bit of a pass right now) need to pipe in or they will draw my ire even more so.Originally Posted by plantling
Is it just me or does Z seem a bit tame this round? I remember him being a little more aggressive with his comments on ppl who he thinks is scum. In the post below he comments on Kashta's wording in one of her posts but reserves judgement b/c of the train that has fallen on her:
Meow, purr purr.
Then he makes a comment about the train on Kashta and his vote on CJ.
Stirring up the low posters, I always do that.
Here he cautions voting on Kash b/c if she were Rebel it would make her talk less? But yet he defends his single vote on CJ.
No, I said if everyone jumps on Kash discussion as a whole will shut down. I think all of us that have played more than a handful of games know that when one person is put up to the vote, the town stops talking.
When he switches to Maverick, there is no case. Just a can't shake how off his posts are.
There was not "much" of a case, agreed. There were a lot of wiggle words in Mavericks few posts that sounded like he was trying to fit in and be part of the discussion without providing anything of real substance.
It's just not the ZSand I knew of old. And IF Kashta is lynched and found to be mucs, I think ZSand should be really looked at.
Look at me now, I white as the driven snow.Well, since the roles are reversed this game I guess I'm more like the yellow snow?
That's all I have time for tonite. I've been looking at Coler also but not really done yet. To be fair, though I've butted heads w/him, his posts seem helpful. But like I said I'm not done yet.
CJ, will you wait till the end of the Day agai ntoday to pop in, make two posts and a vote, then disappear for another 48 hours?
Originally Posted by ZSandmann
No I only have the desire to not see one person raised above all others so soon. The person in the lead gains the biggest discussion, thus more candidates, more talk. Even if Kash is a Rebel, voting her up so far above all others is going to squash her interactions and thus we learn little from her demise.
And my objection was really not so much that Kashta voted to save herself. It was the timing of her vote. Ya excuses can be made for that but to me it still looks scummy as it left no room for discussion nor for others to change their votes.
Well I have more errands to run this morning. Will post thoughts on RB and Coler later and hopefully a list. I'd forgotten how reading intensive this game was.
Sounds alot like Bala is taking vengeance on RB, lol. He has been afk awhiles.
As I said earlier, I also think it looks like Z has possibly running some subtle interference for Kashta. In addition to what has already been mentioned, add this one to the list:
The fact that, in addition to expressing hesitation for lynching Kashta, he tries to paint citizen Ice as possible scum looks like he could be trying to discredit yesterday's wagon on Kashta. If people believe that Ice was scum, they might be less likely to go after Kashta...
Regardless of any personal interpretation of JL's mist, Ice was killed by the REBELS. He HAD to be town...why would they kill one of their own? Z's a scientist in real life, and I find it doubtful that this obvious fact would escape him...
Morning folks, I'll post what I can before I have to leave this morning. But I'll be back soon, as well, to share more observations and comments with you.
Gee, BKW...... there's a cheery prospect to perk up my morning.
Yeesh...
Yes dirtydawg, I'd missed going back to post a reply for you on this one.. I'm happy to do so now.
First, let me assure you this is not what I intended for Day 1. That's just how this worked out and I'm stuck now in the position I'm in as a result... as is everyone else now who has to decide their vote in my regard.
I have to say that, in general, I'm not a great fan of early voting right away on Day 1. I don't actually know what the prevailing custom is or how those votes are usually interpreted by other townpeople, but my feeling is that they don't mean a whole lot. To me, they're mostly either too random, frivolous, or contrived to put on a misleading appearance. I suppose I approach my votes with more caution than that... I don't know. I just can't see tossing out a random vote against someone before I'm able to get at least some kind of feeling about them first.
Is this now pro-town or anti-town of me? Really, it's neither one. My plan for this game was to see how it goes that first day... then review whatever I found particularly significant first, share my thoughts, and vote. If I'd picked up a strong feeling about someone early on, I wouldn't have minded placing my vote against them the first day and stating my reasons for it. But as it turned out, I didn't have that.
Then, as I've stated before, the timing of my second day fell apart on me. Had I been able to get back to the computer around 10 am as I expected, I would have had the time I needed to respond to those people eager to take me out of the game so fast and still be able to participate myself in the discussion that followed. But this wasn't possible on that particular day. By the time I did get here, my fate was already a foregone conclusion.
I can sure tell you... coming back and finding out that I'd been tagged as the leading candidate for lynching while I was gone without being able to defend myself or get a chance to do anything else productive really sucks. Being gone all day, I also missed out on the time I needed to find reasonable suspects for myself. I was in a tough spot at that point, so I read through everything the others had voiced (what there was) and made the best decision I could.
From here, all I can do now is carry on and hope the town will give me a chance to stay in this a little longer so I can be judged on the basis of my participation with you rather than on the circumstances or what others have said about me for reasons of their own.
Gee, BKW...... there's a cheery prospect to perk up my morning.
Yeesh...
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Originally Posted by dirtydawg10
It may end up getting me killed but I have to agree with Plant on this one. What is pro-town about not placing a vote for 2 days and waiting until 2 minutes before nightfall to save yourself? Wouldn't it be more beneficial to the town to get your thoughts and vote out early so people can react and possibly learn from it. Especially if you are a clear candidate to go home that night?
Even if she turns out not to be mucs I think the town needs to know what she is...jmho.
Originally Posted by dirtydawg10
It may end up getting me killed but I have to agree with Plant on this one. What is pro-town about not placing a vote for 2 days and waiting until 2 minutes before nightfall to save yourself? Wouldn't it be more beneficial to the town to get your thoughts and vote out early so people can react and possibly learn from it. Especially if you are a clear candidate to go home that night?
Even if she turns out not to be mucs I think the town needs to know what she is...jmho.
Yes dirtydawg, I'd missed going back to post a reply for you on this one.. I'm happy to do so now.
First, let me assure you this is not what I intended for Day 1. That's just how this worked out and I'm stuck now in the position I'm in as a result... as is everyone else now who has to decide their vote in my regard.
I have to say that, in general, I'm not a great fan of early voting right away on Day 1. I don't actually know what the prevailing custom is or how those votes are usually interpreted by other townpeople, but my feeling is that they don't mean a whole lot. To me, they're mostly either too random, frivolous, or contrived to put on a misleading appearance. I suppose I approach my votes with more caution than that... I don't know. I just can't see tossing out a random vote against someone before I'm able to get at least some kind of feeling about them first.
Is this now pro-town or anti-town of me? Really, it's neither one. My plan for this game was to see how it goes that first day... then review whatever I found particularly significant first, share my thoughts, and vote. If I'd picked up a strong feeling about someone early on, I wouldn't have minded placing my vote against them the first day and stating my reasons for it. But as it turned out, I didn't have that.
Then, as I've stated before, the timing of my second day fell apart on me. Had I been able to get back to the computer around 10 am as I expected, I would have had the time I needed to respond to those people eager to take me out of the game so fast and still be able to participate myself in the discussion that followed. But this wasn't possible on that particular day. By the time I did get here, my fate was already a foregone conclusion.
I can sure tell you... coming back and finding out that I'd been tagged as the leading candidate for lynching while I was gone without being able to defend myself or get a chance to do anything else productive really sucks. Being gone all day, I also missed out on the time I needed to find reasonable suspects for myself. I was in a tough spot at that point, so I read through everything the others had voiced (what there was) and made the best decision I could.
From here, all I can do now is carry on and hope the town will give me a chance to stay in this a little longer so I can be judged on the basis of my participation with you rather than on the circumstances or what others have said about me for reasons of their own.
