Mafia #51 - Mafia Citizens - The Play

Also all the while Plant is slinging stuff at Z, she still has a vote on DD??? Wha??
 
plant is definitely setting off my radar today he accuses you of leading us by the nose when he was practically threatening us into voting for Kashta yesterday and after the full blown campaign against her plant just drops it today. seems odd.

plant does bring up some good points on ZS and DD working very light handed to push peoples votes. maybe its just their style of play but could be that they are actually mafia and trying to subtly communicate with their group or they could be rebels trying to control events nothing overly solid there but could use some watching

Kashta is still suspect but i don't see her being a good vote at this time there is too much heat and likely to be at least one protection on her so i don't think we would learn anything from her lynching

MC has had some odd posts but could be due to him/her coming into the game late and not reading through the rules and our disscussion of some of it day one that well nothing much there for me

i don't have anything else now but if anything come to mind ill look into it
My posts today were retarded for sure, I did read the rules wrong and got the roles messed up, back on track now though, this changes my thinking a bit though as far as who is who...I took most of the morning to regroup and read throught the last few days worth of posts. Not much new today a lot of confusion and finger pointing from what I can see.

At this point in time I feel there are a couple of players I still have a bad feeling about, I VOTE TO LYNCH ZSAND
 
Or it could be exactly like how Z is saying and they all knew he was protected and dogpiled him at the end which would make you right in the midst of that plant. Is that why you keep trying to clear Zig's name? IS that why you changed at the end because you knew it would be too obvious? Was the whole after nightfall was called oopsie just a stint?

Right now my top suspects are Plant and Zig. Plant because she is all over the place, trying to point fingers everywhere, not making sense at times, and trying to rearrange facts to make them work for her. Zig because there is a 1:3 chance he is mucs.


Isnt there a 1/3 chance EVERYONE is Scum/mucs?!?
 
Okay true... I meant to say 50:50 because I am not buying the bala protection thing Plant is trying shove down our throats.
 
LOL. I didn't even relate the synonym w/u. I'm wondering if I should now, hmmmm.


Oh poor, poor RB. :cry:<------(Remove and insert violin playing emote)



I predict that if a person gets saved by bala they will still be in hot water as the insurgents (rebels) and at least one of the other team will think them likely turned. I'm guessing that w/17 players, there are 3-4 rebels and 2-3 wise guys and a don. That would leave around 9 regular citizens.


I found this on day one. Concidence?? Or not?? Thoughts??
 
Really looking forward to hearing an answer for this question, Kashta. You failed to address it in your recent post :




Here's your first post... 'Woohoo! The game is on.' Why would it be 'game on' if you hadn't received a PM (and therefore didn't know your role)?


Here you explain how you edited the first post to say '(almost)'. Apparently you went on to read the thread further and saw the game was not on yet, so edited the first post... So you're saying that it took further reading JL's instructions for you to realize it wasn't 'Game On'? What about the fact that, if you hadn't received a PM, you wouldn't know your role? That's a pretty good clue that it ain't 'Game On' yet.


This makes it pretty clear that you did receive a PM, and based on the actions I've already pointed out, I am extremely confident that you are against the town...

I'm so confident, that if this game were being run in Chicago (instead of ACville), I'd vote for you twice. ;)

I just can't let kash go, Mad makes such a good point, and the fact that kash wasn't hit again makes a vote for her hard to resist.

With Mad being the Hit victim it really makes Kash and Plant stand out as scum, but that also bothers me because its so obvious.

I retract my vote for Kash.

I acted too quickly, we should discuss this a bit before

I was actually thinking that too. Mad went pretty hard after Kashta so its looks very bad for her...but then again...

there's a reverse psychology round-a-bout here, which makes it hard to decipher what went down. I tend to play by trying not to think like the scum players because its never predictable.

There's also the chance they were just fishing for a PR as Kashta was a good candidate to leave around. She really didn't need much help to be put on the block.

The two comments above make me think that either Z or Pappy(z more so then pappy) is a rebel. The rebels so far have played brilliant. Taking out ice and mad is a good start, if anyone is going to bust a game it's one of those two. to me that suggest a really seasoned vet, someone like z or pappy.

With Zs vote for Kash, retraction, and then pointing out how it's what the rebels want I'm really leaning him scum now.

My list of possible scum


Kash
Zsand (maybe pappy, but more so Z)

sideline-
dawg-seasoned hasnt had much attention this game
coler-same as dawg

Leaning innocent
Cj-5 post. lack of participation suggest he's just bored.

Z and pap i would like to hear your comments on Mad's above post.
 
As I've said I do think Kash is a PR, but I don't know if she is a Rebel.

thats what ive been going back and forth over to, but the fact that she wasn't hit makes me think scum. I really thought Kash woulda been hit last night. Why hit ice and mad, but ignore a really good arguement for her being a PR? the only conclusion i come back to is tht the rebels knows what side she's on. (sorry if im repeating myself, im really just thinking out loud.)

nuts to it

i vote to lynch Kash
 
thats what ive been going back and forth over to, but the fact that she wasn't hit makes me think scum. I really thought Kash woulda been hit last night. Why hit ice and mad, but ignore a really good arguement for her being a PR? the only conclusion i come back to is tht the rebels knows what side she's on. (sorry if im repeating myself, im really just thinking out loud.)

nuts to it

i vote to lynch Kash

That's why I retracted my vote, I figure if she is a WG they won't hit her right now because they could get a two-fer if we lynch her and they can hit someone else. They would know what she is so they might as well hit unknowns and come back to her at another time. I mean look how much she has divided us already, surely there are WGs and Citizens on both sides of the arguement. Only the Don knows if she isn't a WG but all the Rebels will know she isn't one of them.
 
That's why I retracted my vote, I figure if she is a WG they won't hit her right now because they could get a two-fer if we lynch her and they can hit someone else. They would know what she is so they might as well hit unknowns and come back to her at another time. I mean look how much she has divided us already, surely there are WGs and Citizens on both sides of the arguement. Only the Don knows if she isn't a WG but all the Rebels will know she isn't one of them.

i have to agree with this she still could be a rebel but i am really thinking the rebels are using the controversy around her to keep us distracted
 
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