Mafia 52: Killer Comes A Courtin' (The Play)

[Kashta]

Mod question -- Zsandman, would you answer this so we'll know which is true?

Is the mafia hit placed before nightfall of the previous day, or can they submit their hit whenever they want to?

Related quotes:

On JL being hit tonight... No Ice, you know much better than that. JL was not going to be hit tonight because the mafia had to submit the name for that hit before nightfall yesterday. The mafia wasn't going to target JL (if he's even innocent) because JL was a no-show the whole day. He didn't start playing until AFTER today's hit had been already been submitted.. there's no way the mafia could have anticipated him showing up when he did out of thin air like that - two (real) days in advance.

Hits can go in anytime after night fall, they aren't made the day before.

 

[jm1212]

I am not buying the Ice thing. I think that is EXACTLY what the mafia would want us to think at this point. I think that is probably why they put a hit on Dawgs INSTEAD of Ice. So they could come here claiming Ice must be mafia. Not gonna fall for it. Kash, I know you are smarter than this. I am not buying it and I can't believe you are trying to get all of us to buy it. Starting to look really suspicious in my book.

Dopehand?? Really?? We have major mafia in our mists and you are gonna waste your vote on Dopehand who made a one vote one time?? We don't even have enough to go on other than lack of participation. Does that really scream scumminess?? Maybe, but I think there are bigger fish to fry. I am really starting to not trust you JL.

Please townies go reread up on JM. He has followed Kash from the beginning. I don't trust him either.

this those post just screams mafia to me. everything about it is just shifty. my vote is staying where it is this time.

 

[jm1212]

Some of jm1212 input -

Before nightfall asking someone about their vote -



Then after nightfall (where we lost two citiznes) this is his first post -



Now he gave no reason for his vote, but has the nerve to ask someone about their vote -



Kash, ignores jm1212 request for reasoning but answers Ice -



jm1212 seems to agree with Kash -



I can't see how jm1212 can't be towards the top of anyones mafia list.

Besides talking about Dopehand I would like to talk about jm1212.

considering the fact that i voted for her as well yesterday, i didnt think i would have to explain myself again.

 

[jm1212]

oh and about not posting much since nightfall- sorry about that. i like to sleep more than 3 hours a night.

and about not posting much content- have you not read the thread? obviously not, especially considering people like noodles and LuvBugz just jump on everyone else's train to ride along and say "yeah, yeah! you're right" and agree with whoever last spoke, like the animals of Animal Farm. also, there are people that dont even contribute, "lurkers" or not.

 

[maverickbr77]

I just read everything since night fall i need to take a while to process then reread i will try to get something together in a couple hours (wow it was busy last night)

 

[johnlarson66]

How so? I should be near the top of all lists being as great a players as I am according to Kash.

I find it interesting because Dawg is dead.

I am growing more uncomfortable with the references of Ice and I being together. I think we have both been active and have been researching the thread. I wish other players would do that. Stop playing by your hunches and feelings and get some facts. Ice and I might agree on some things (as do I with others), but we also disagree on things (as I do with others).

 

[Dopehand]

What sort of facts exactly are you referring to?

 

[noodles62]

Well, I would like to go ahead and place my vote, for discussion sake. I vote to lynch Firedancer. Based on the fact that I do not like the way she swoops in at the last minute to make a vote two nights in a row. Last night's vote is especially concerning to me as it was a "safe vote" that kept her from making a decision about the two players on the chopping block. That vote was worthless and I see it as scummy. I believe and understand that a baby keeps you busy however the game does not take RL into account when roles are decided upon. The excuse "I'm not involved enough to be in such a conspiracy. Sorry." is not gonna work for me....you very well could be mafia as well as one of the MIA players......they all gotta go either way.

 

[rich311k]

Jl I don't think you and ice are a team, I think you are both quite opposite I just have no feeling who is who. I also think which ever one of you is scum is telling Kashta and maybe mav what to do.

This is my current working theory. I would not be surprised if Jm is some how involveed as well.

I do not really have a clue which one of the two of you is not trust worthy but I am sure of Kashta.

 

[Kashta]

Well jl and ice were busy over the evening. I don't trust either of them. They are both experts at this. Be very careful of them. I think at least one of them is scum.

Kashta I see as on the mafia. I think she is being told exactly what to do.

JM has added no real content and the DR thing still nags at me. Her posts just enough to try and make people think he is an active towns person.

Dope's drive by vote is worrisome but he has been around so little I just cant figure him.

Noodles I see as innocent right now. She has been awfully quiet though.

maverick I think is just feeling out the ropes I see nothing worrisome about him yet.

Bugz - the whinning is killing me. Please stop. if you want to get a disscusion going about other players then start one, stop telling us how all alone you are.

FD very odd play. Watch her.

I am not sure about anyone else are they even playing?

To clear up this point from both Rich (above) and Luvbugz (below)... I've been on the mafia team twice in a row now before this game. And neither time was I told what to do. You don't need to pin a mafia label on me to decide whether I'm capable of thinking for myself in this game. Granted, I make a lot of mistakes as well, but I take full blame for those too.

How can I not whine a little when people who signed up aren't even voting or contributing? The run in and vote then disappear thing really isn't helping flush out mafia. In fact, it is pretty distracting.

I went and reread everything over again from last night. I feel totally like a mouse being played with by two cats. I am not trusting Ice, JL, or Kash.

I agree with the Kash statement. I think JL said awhile ago he felt she was being coached by someone more experienced. I have watched her follow Jpap and then follow JL. The Ice thing is too obvious. She herself even knows that. If she were to go up for lynch tomorrow and turn up mafia, I still don't think that would clear Ice for me.

JM is still on my list.

FD is still on my list. As much as I do believe her little one is taking up her time, her waiting until nightfall two nights in a row is just I think she might very well be mafia and being coached when and where to place votes.

Dopehand: I don't even have enough info to make a judgement here. Likes to use big words I think to confuse people.

Luv, you make reference to 2 cats there playing you like a mouse. Then go on to list 3 names. Guess you meant to say 3 cats then instead of two, since you didn't go on to differentiate between them.. lol.

Now, where you said if I go up for lynching today and turn up mafia... etc. etc... What would you say if I am lynched and I turn up citizen? For every possibility that you (or we) consider, don't just look at one side and not the other. We all need to think about both sides of every coin.

The thing about this isn't only looking for ways to read people as scum or to even focus solely on what's being said to us. We also need to recognize the truth when we read it from different people, to remember that most of our town is still innocent and not scum, and to keep looking for facts that are being covered up or left out completely.

This is what we've failed to do thus far in the game. First with Luvbugz about that pizza joke and then with DD for not voting at all. Noodles has reminded us already that DD told us not to focus on the little details we find but take an overall view instead. The mafia is working real hard to sway us off their track with all those little details that have gotten in our way.