Mafia 52: Killer Comes A Courtin' (The Play)

It got real quiet Noodles. A lot of people disappeared from the thread too.
 
Kashta said:
I've thought a lot about John's reaction to what I did. He knew he was leaving and wouldn't be back and he had to make his final decision for this vote right then and there. He told me he wouldn't be back in time to change it and asked me if I was sure. I said yes. Then he thought it over and decided my plan wasn't going to work because we can't afford to lynch another innocent, like I was suggesting. Because of that... John decided to revoke his vote against me. He wasn't sure it would do any good and thought it would be risky in terms of numbers.. so he wouldn't do it. I thought we were sunk at the time. Then thinking about this afterward, I realized he'd just proved to me that he's not mafia.

This is the important part for me... the people on the mafia team already know my role. JL knew he was leaving that night and he couldn't switch his vote before nightfall. He had to real careful about that... he didn't have the luxury anymore of saying something one day and then doing the opposite a day later when it came time to vote.

If John was mafia he already had his vote on me with a probable majority of innocent townies already voting me (plus his mafia teammates) to guarantee that I would get lynched no matter what happened while he was gone. Then when John asked me if I was sure because it's a final vote he can't change later, I told him yes. John believed me because I'd just shown him I wasn't bluffing. (I figured that part out later btw.... If I was mafia, there's no way I'd be willing to go through with getting lynched by choice to voluntarily (1) cut down their number and (2) have my role revealed.... if I was innocent, I still wasn't bluffing or just pretending to say.. oh yea lynch me, go ahead... Because of the timing, we were both forced to make a final choice right then that we both knew neither of us could change later.) John believed me. He's not mafia and he doesn't want to lynch another innocent townie by mistake. He worked out the math further than I had and realized it was probably too risky to leave his vote on me... so he changed his mind.

Someone on the mafia team would not have done that in John's position because he would already know my role without any uncertainty and he already knew I was a sure bet to get lynched anyway. It was John's reluctance to lynch me or leave his vote on me that proved to me that he's not mafia. John took his vote off me and voted against Dopehand instead he decided must be his best suspect. Since I trust John to be a citizen (not mafia)... I also trust his skill level in the game and in his judgement. So I'm going to add my vote to his and ask everyone else in the game to do the same thing.
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I'm not saying JL is mafia so take this with a grain of salt.


All this means nothing. If you are innocent and JL is mafia he doesn't need to vote you at all because as you said most the town wanted to take you down. His vote wasn't needed.
 
Taking it a step further.

If you're both mafia all he did was place a vote away from you onto another suspect hoping it would make the vote closer and giving you a fighting chance to survive.

If you are mafia and he is innocent then he bought your story and made a bad decision to which he can rectify when he returns.

I hope you are innocent because if not JL looks more mafia to me. But more because of your actions then his own.
 
Ok this wait is killing me so lets discuss what ifs.


If Agi is mafia who would be next on everyones list? I'd have to say Luv and Kash.

If Agi is innocent then I'm lost and the main reason I really didn't want to go here. Nothing really is learned from his death. Though I trust the people on Agi a ton more then the ones not on him.
 
Guess I should say if Agi is mafia then my top 3 would be Kash Jl and Luv I doubt its all 3, seems to be to many. I'd say 1 of those 3 at most 2 as that would be 5 mafia. But I'd want to take out Kash 1st of the 3.
 
If Ag turns up innocent, then I am at a total loss. I would definately take another look at Bugz, Kashta, TRS and Rich........If he turns up innocent and I get hit tonite the town is in big trouble...
 
If Agi is innocent, I have to look at you Ice.

If Ag is mafia, I am still looking at Dope and Kash.

I have a feeling I might get hit tonight. Kash cozying up to me last moment isn't sitting well with me. Is it to try and gain my trust so I won't vote for her next round??
 
Here's a vote count since I've been out all day.

Kash: --Ice(956) --Luv(966) --JL(986) --Nood(1002) --Kash(1017)
Agas: Dope(1028) Jm(1046) Ice(1152) Nood(1159) Rich(1182) Luv(1183)
Dope: JL(1050) --Nood(1151) --Luv(1166) Kash(1186)
JL: Red(1078)
Luv: --Nood(1106)

Through 1197
 
Luvbugz said:
If Agi is innocent, I have to look at you Ice.

If Ag is mafia, I am still looking at Dope and Kash.

I have a feeling I might get hit tonight. Kash cozying up to me last moment isn't sitting well with me. Is it to try and gain my trust so I won't vote for her next round??
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Care to explain?
 
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