OgreMkV
Father of Earth's Next Emperor
Oh yeah, I guess you could say I'm a veteran. I brought the game to AC.
So I think I've played with everyone and been on teams with almost everyone at one point or another.
Mafia 54:Vampires Return (The Play)
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Oh yeah, I guess you could say I'm a veteran. I brought the game to AC.
So I think I've played with everyone and been on teams with almost everyone at one point or another.
Yes - exactly right - I didn't have this clarity until right now. JohnL would have shown innocent on your invest N1 so therefore can't ever have been LV - it can't have been passed to him because he is now dead and they get one switch only. Means JL was either first choice team mate or N1 bite as he showed evil after N1.
Albeit that you wern't talking to me in the first place, what I think of you is that I've just read through all your posts and you've done and said absolutely nothing all game so I think you're shady as all get out, and a suspect.
Knowing JL anyone of us would have picked him first he is a great player, we would not have him now except for WY coming out. I know he, jpap or Coler would be my choice.
So we have jpap, jl working for who? I wish I knew the answer to that question. I think JM is on the team not the boss.
So we have jpap, jl working for who? I wish I knew the answer to that question. I think JM is on the team not the boss.
i've got 4 games, not counting this one.
41(i think, something like that), 52, 53, and 53.5
Regarding Zaffy- I think he is either the lead vampire or not a vampire.
Why? We haven't had a new vampire since end of day 2. Day 2 Zaffy was still in hot-water, so unlikely to have been picked. We know JL was a vamp at end of day one- so either the first pick or end of day 1 pick and I don't think he was a likely day 1 or starting "turn"... unless Lam is the Lead Vampire.
Regarding being lead vampire.
I didn't see any attempt to save Zaffy except from anyone other than Zaffy himself. You'd expect a lesser vampire to try and save the lead vampire even if it drew suspicion on himself.
So - going back to my original list of suspects- that for me narrows the list of most likelies to ZSand, Ogre, JM. Rocker and Coler should perhaps be on there- but I'm leaning innocent for both of them- it's hard to think that Coler could say as much as he has and still sound innocent- scary if he isn't. Rocker has been quiet- that's the only sign of guilt in him- although he was quiet last game when not directly accused. I also tend to think since he is newer he is a less obvious pick for a lesser vampire... although possible he could be lead. Gut tells me innocent- I need to watch him though and not just let him slide as innocent.
Of JM, ZSand and Ogre. JM and ZSand have both played fairly safe games as far as picks and statements go- the lack of courting controversy could be a sign of guilt- or could be playing style.
A lot of people seem to suspect JM- and was Pappy distancing himself by accusing JM or is that a sign JM was innocent?
ZSand hasn't really attracted much of an attention before today- a few people listing him today.
No-one has really had Ogre on their suspect list consistantly yet he has been active and a couple of items stand out. 1) the comment about the lead vampire laughing back on day one... shouldn't mean anything but it stood out to me. 2) He was the first to build the case against Noodles- but when she came back innocent he blamed Pappy for campaigning against her... if the "Pappy wanted out" theory is true- this could have been a planned distancing campaign.
I don't know... I really don't know.
No-one is completely off the hook- but those three draw up my short-list and I'm suspecting one- or two of them is amongst the bloodsucking line-up.
Why? We haven't had a new vampire since end of day 2. Day 2 Zaffy was still in hot-water, so unlikely to have been picked. We know JL was a vamp at end of day one- so either the first pick or end of day 1 pick and I don't think he was a likely day 1 or starting "turn"... unless Lam is the Lead Vampire.
Regarding being lead vampire.
I didn't see any attempt to save Zaffy except from anyone other than Zaffy himself. You'd expect a lesser vampire to try and save the lead vampire even if it drew suspicion on himself.
So - going back to my original list of suspects- that for me narrows the list of most likelies to ZSand, Ogre, JM. Rocker and Coler should perhaps be on there- but I'm leaning innocent for both of them- it's hard to think that Coler could say as much as he has and still sound innocent- scary if he isn't. Rocker has been quiet- that's the only sign of guilt in him- although he was quiet last game when not directly accused. I also tend to think since he is newer he is a less obvious pick for a lesser vampire... although possible he could be lead. Gut tells me innocent- I need to watch him though and not just let him slide as innocent.
Of JM, ZSand and Ogre. JM and ZSand have both played fairly safe games as far as picks and statements go- the lack of courting controversy could be a sign of guilt- or could be playing style.
A lot of people seem to suspect JM- and was Pappy distancing himself by accusing JM or is that a sign JM was innocent?
ZSand hasn't really attracted much of an attention before today- a few people listing him today.
No-one has really had Ogre on their suspect list consistantly yet he has been active and a couple of items stand out. 1) the comment about the lead vampire laughing back on day one... shouldn't mean anything but it stood out to me. 2) He was the first to build the case against Noodles- but when she came back innocent he blamed Pappy for campaigning against her... if the "Pappy wanted out" theory is true- this could have been a planned distancing campaign.
I don't know... I really don't know.
No-one is completely off the hook- but those three draw up my short-list and I'm suspecting one- or two of them is amongst the bloodsucking line-up.
What my final thought is - my vote stays where it is - is that wycco should strongly consider investigating Ogre tonight. I feel his status one way or the other would definitely be valuable information as he has posted a reasonable amount of stuff. Actually what I'm really expressing is that if I knew for sure what Ogre was I think we could crack the game.
I stress that if wycco is more comfortable investigating me then go for it - I can absolutely see how knowing my status would definitely resolve a lot of issues for the town as well and in fact confirming my innocence might well be more of a priority for the rest of the town than Ogre.
And then you of course factor in turns durnit - personally I am hoping that my uber active and quite specific posting is making me unattractive to them. That said they would probably be happy killing me.
There was one post from Rocker that makes me doubt him as a vampire, he being on my list, which was the one where he confirmed the off-game content, interacting with Kashta and JL. It just seemed authentic/ring of truth is all.
If I was to add someone to my list I guess it would be Ogre after all - he fits my previous analysis of the vamp vote being on pappy is the main reason. I'm sure he'd understand.
I stress that if wycco is more comfortable investigating me then go for it - I can absolutely see how knowing my status would definitely resolve a lot of issues for the town as well and in fact confirming my innocence might well be more of a priority for the rest of the town than Ogre.
And then you of course factor in turns durnit - personally I am hoping that my uber active and quite specific posting is making me unattractive to them. That said they would probably be happy killing me.
There was one post from Rocker that makes me doubt him as a vampire, he being on my list, which was the one where he confirmed the off-game content, interacting with Kashta and JL. It just seemed authentic/ring of truth is all.
If I was to add someone to my list I guess it would be Ogre after all - he fits my previous analysis of the vamp vote being on pappy is the main reason. I'm sure he'd understand.
