Mafia 54:Vampires Return (The Play)

Zaffy said:
Your list only shows what we've learned by me saving myself. Which I would do again.
1) We don't know his method, he's not sharing. We have no way to tell if he is using random or choosing. Thus it's a moot point.

2) I think motive is pretty clear, I saved my own hind-end.
3) See #2,
4) They sure would, unless all 3 names were innocents, then they could sit back and watch us tear ourselves apart.


I asked you to show me how sending 3 names to Bala tells the town anything more than sending 1 name. You've failed to do that. So I ask again. Explain to us how sending 3 names to be chosen from tells the town more than someone saving himself?
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Who is "us"? Because I think most everyone knows vote changes are the majority of the evidence in tracking vamps. With so few this is tough. By taking away the three way tie you took away the chance for one of them to try and save the other assuming either of the other two were a vamp. Also, why wait so long to do it? You had been in the running for quite a while yet you chose just a few minutes till Night to make your change. That is scummy, if you had done it an hour or more before I would hardly make note of it as self-preservation makes perfect sense. I'm taking issue with your timing not your method.
 
rich311k said:
I was actually the first vote and did not change to take out my suspect but same idea.

I do not see Zaffy except as a Scent of a Women moral issue kind of thing. Not sure what to think right now.
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Yeah the comparison was more along the lines of choosing to vote random rather than for a suspect. 'Tis scummy...
 
There are a few things that caught my attention about the three way tie.

First the fact that is was a 3 way tie and Coler posts this -

Coler said:
Bah D1 is what it is.

Hunch....I vote to lynch John Larsson
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Coler didn't want to place a vote on Kash, DD or Zaffy, but instead placed a lone vote on me. Not a random guess, but a hunch. I worthless and pointless vote. A vote on me 24 hrs before might have gotten me in that 3 way tie.

So besides having a hunch I am a vampire, Coler also has a hunch that Kash, DD and Zaffy are not vampires, because if he had a hunch, he would have voted one of them.

jm1212 said:
Zaffy, this isnt looking good for you.
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Here jm points out Zaffy, but no vote.

jm1212 said:
still though, i think it was a contest between three innocents
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Here jm thinks that Zaffy and Kash are innocent, but just got done saying "this isnt looking good".

I need to check to see who jm even voted for...
 
After I get done stuffing Kash with a porterhouse -

I vote to stick a stake into Kashta
 
I have a feeling Kash likes her steaks rare, real real rare.
 
ZSandmann said:
Who is "us"? Because I think most everyone knows vote changes are the majority of the evidence in tracking vamps. With so few this is tough. By taking away the three way tie you took away the chance for one of them to try and save the other assuming either of the other two were a vamp. Also, why wait so long to do it? You had been in the running for quite a while yet you chose just a few minutes till Night to make your change. That is scummy, if you had done it an hour or more before I would hardly make note of it as self-preservation makes perfect sense. I'm taking issue with your timing not your method.
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So, you're suggesting that on day 1, it's likely that 2 out 3 names send up to bala would be scum? That's simply absurd. I was hoping someone else would step up, never happened. So rather than stand on the tracks to "wait and see", I got off. Had I waited, then either kash, or DD (whoever the coin chose) would be in postion to make it a 2 person race by switching their votes to me. That would have increased my risk from 33% to 50%, By waiting I reduced my risk to 0%. so waiting was the safest option

So, why did you switch off of Kash and vote for rocker, a dead end vote.

Smile for me.
 
Just in case, this is what I am referring to...

Coler said:
So...8 and a half hours to nightfall...

Jpap - sort of seems to be just butting in with questions more than thoughts but that's a very glib analysis which I don't place much stock in right now.
RB - not participating one bt.
Coler - make your own mind up.
JL - I don't know
Zsand - I never know
Jm - I don't know
Annie - I don't know
Kash - becoming the focus of my attention perhaps too much, but she started it etc. etc. etc.
Ogre - I don't know
Zaffy - I don't know
Noodles - I don't know
Dawg - I don't know
Rocker - I don't know
Wycco - I don't know
DD - sorta defensive...says there are lots of clues out there...should go find some for us.
Phoenixn7g - I don't know
Lanimret - I don't know


NB there could be others with as low a post count as RB but I just particularly noted that he is lying low.

I am going to pick out the voting posts and see if there is anything in em.
Rich
Paperdragon
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So Coler had a bunch of "I don't know"s except for 3 people (Kash, DD, Jpap)* which is why I said earlier I wondered if he would end up voting Kash in particular because of the interactions between them. Not only did Coler have a chance to take out Kash but also DD, both of which it seems like he had some questions about...why not?

*at the time I didn't see he said something about Rb...
 
Besides Kash, Ogre, and Jpap. I also suspect Coler.
 
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