Mafia 54:Vampires Return (The Play)

[Kashta]

Yet he voted neither of you despite being his suspects...you say John is scummy for not taking the chance to vote Zaffy, one of his suspects, yet Coler did the exact same thing by throwing a random vote but you are giving him the pass? How the heck does that work Kash?

If that was the only point I was making to suggest John is scummy this would make a big difference. But it's not.. I've just made a whole series of posts that give several reasons for suspecting John so highly right now.

It's also been pointed out that Dawg did the same kind of thing with his vote on Noodles. Several others talked of strong suspicious for one person but their votes don't match that either. So there are many things for us to look at now. I've seen enough to pull my early vote off Zaffy ... subject to change later again. And I'm just starting to look through everything else again in this thread as I try to narrow things down enough to make a serious vote I feel is well placed.

I can give Coler a pass for that because I know my role. That isn't the same for the rest of you. And I understand that. If everything else in this game hinges on my role now, then vote me and get that out of the way. Whether I'm villager or vampire that's probably what'll happen anyway. I'm being voted already now just because Zaffy wimped out to save himself. All anyone else can tell in my case is that it was within my power to drop my vote against DD to add one more to Zaffy's total in order to save myself. Even so, I didn't take that opportunity and neither did DD.

 

[paperdragon]

Wow, that's a lot of posts since I went to sleep last night... I notice jpappy was posting well into the night. Interesting....

 

[Coler]

Coler, please explain your hunch vote on JL...why did you not vote Kash or DD instead?

hunchy. I re-read the thread...didn't fancy kashta as a vote last night. You'll notice that anything I posted so far has been more discursive than accusatory anyway, about anyone.

 

[Coler]

The thought in my mind is that a late vote switch is often indicative of scum...but I do tend to try and exonerate a person who saves themselves as I believe you're entitled to do so.

What I don't like about Zaffy's vote is that it was so late there was no chance to react. Now, would Zaffy say 'I was worried that if I switched the vampires would switch back on to me so I didn't want to give them time to react ?'. This really doesn't stack up on D1. The only reason for the vampires to make late switches would be if one or other of them were up for the lynch. Otherwise on D1 they can just sit it out. What do they care which innocent gets lynched as long as its an innocent.

I need to go back and see how the three way tie developed.

Almost every game I played in a late vote switch like that has ultimately disclosed a scum...its very hard not to go to Zaffy for tonights vote.

 

[IceH2O]

//game off

Everyone... phoenix is new and she didn't understand. She's in chat right now asking about this.

I've explained that she needs to participate and vote before nightfall. Not wait until after nightfall. Looking at the rules to show her on Page 1 it doesn't say anything about UDs. So this looks like a mistake on her part and Ice needs to make the call.

I've told her to PM Ice and ask him if he'll let her back into the game.

//game on

Told her no and to follow the game for a better understanding of how it works.

 

[Coler]

fair call

 

[Kashta]

Yes, understandable. Hope you join us again next time, Phoenix.

 

[Wycco]

Agree on the phoenix ruling- seemed a simple misunderstanding of the rules- an easy mistake to make... If there was a way to let her back in the game I'd be for it- but I don't see how that is possible.

 

[rich311k]

Sorry Phoenix, please play again though.

The single votes do worry me. easy way to not get any attention.

JM you are playing stranger than ever. I have got an eye on you.

Zaffy late vote change stinks, but to save your own butt is understandable but I think most villagers would have stayed where they were and took the chance, So not in the clear at all. I said last night I thought you were clearbut not so sure now.

Dawg always worries me and that single vote and not saying much pulls him up for me.

The pap, coler, Jl and kashta I have to read all that again. My eyes get badly teary and blurry when I wake up on a hot sticky mormning like this. I need to read all that again, but from what I gather really not much there.

 

[Wycco]

I'd like to hear RBishop's opinions- he's been hiding in the shadows only getting the bare minimum one line that doesn't say anything commital in it now and again.

Do you have a suspect list yet R. Bishop?

The pap, coler, Jl and kashta I have to read all that again. My eyes get badly teary and blurry when I wake up on a hot sticky mormning like this. I need to read all that again, but from what I gather really not much there.

Yes, but as I said in an earlier post- the one that concerns me most in that list is JL. I can understand Kashta and Coler were pretty much arguing about symmantics- rather blind accusations at each other... but JL seemed to me to be egging them on. His backing against Kashta when she was lead- and then switching to Zaffy the moment he became lead also strikes me as a little "convenient".

To me in the battle of Kashta vs Coler, JL is the one that comes out looking suspicious.