I believe she was threatening to quit the game. There's no point in threatening that when everyone is on your side right now, Kash. Even if more people were against you it's never a good idea to drop out willingly as Ogre previously pointed out.
Mafia 54:Vampires Return (The Play)
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I believe she was threatening to quit the game. There's no point in threatening that when everyone is on your side right now, Kash. Even if more people were against you it's never a good idea to drop out willingly as Ogre previously pointed out.
johnlarson66
These Pandas Rock
Wycco is not the seer or he is the seer and was turned.
His investigation is false, but everyone is jumping on board.
There is no way I was investigated and came up a vampire.
Why they are putting it all out like this I am not sure. I am guessing they could not afford to lose one. I am trying to figure out the math. Someone was given a list from Ice, that should be helpful.
It is like the idea I shared with Kash is being used against me and on me.
Coler, if the seer finds the hunter, they can communicate. If I was the seer, I would look for the hunter and then use the information found to hit a vampire.
As far as I can tell, everyone is voting for me, so the town will learn nothing from my death. Anyone that even shows doubt is going to be called evil, but tomorrow they will be given crap for not speaking up.
His investigation is false, but everyone is jumping on board.
There is no way I was investigated and came up a vampire.
Why they are putting it all out like this I am not sure. I am guessing they could not afford to lose one. I am trying to figure out the math. Someone was given a list from Ice, that should be helpful.
It is like the idea I shared with Kash is being used against me and on me.
Coler, if the seer finds the hunter, they can communicate. If I was the seer, I would look for the hunter and then use the information found to hit a vampire.
As far as I can tell, everyone is voting for me, so the town will learn nothing from my death. Anyone that even shows doubt is going to be called evil, but tomorrow they will be given crap for not speaking up.
johnlarson66
These Pandas Rock
I got to give it to kash, she has taken evil to a whole new level. She had caught on quite well.
johnlarson66
These Pandas Rock
There is really three options -
a) I am innocent and this is a big frame job at the risk of wycco. I am sure kash will say "I trusted wycco".
b) I am a vampire as wycco claims and if I was investigated day one as a vampire then I am not the LV.
c) I am a vampire as wycco claims and jpap transferred the LV role to me and I helped lynch him. Then the game will be over.
If someone knows another option, then I would like to see it.
How in the world does kash even know what wycco is? How come she has champoined his cause? Why hasn't wycco explained why he came out. Kash and wycco are teamates and are communicating outside of the thread.
I have my vote on Kash. I am hoping that the priest will see through the lies and protect me. With kash being second on the votes, she will be killed instead. I am fairly sure she is the LV.
The town will want to go after wycco, but he is not the LV.
a) I am innocent and this is a big frame job at the risk of wycco. I am sure kash will say "I trusted wycco".
b) I am a vampire as wycco claims and if I was investigated day one as a vampire then I am not the LV.
c) I am a vampire as wycco claims and jpap transferred the LV role to me and I helped lynch him. Then the game will be over.
If someone knows another option, then I would like to see it.
How in the world does kash even know what wycco is? How come she has champoined his cause? Why hasn't wycco explained why he came out. Kash and wycco are teamates and are communicating outside of the thread.
I have my vote on Kash. I am hoping that the priest will see through the lies and protect me. With kash being second on the votes, she will be killed instead. I am fairly sure she is the LV.
The town will want to go after wycco, but he is not the LV.
I'm not going to jump on the bandwagon. Not enough makes sense. So I'm going with someone that wasn't on wycco's investigation list - which means still on the possible vamp list whether wycco is really the seer or not.
I vote to stake Dawg
Even if the vote switch did help pappy get staked, it still left a 50/50 chance that pappy would be spared. Seems likely it could've still been a ploy, especially since he switched to rb instead of pappy.
I vote to stake Dawg
Even if the vote switch did help pappy get staked, it still left a 50/50 chance that pappy would be spared. Seems likely it could've still been a ploy, especially since he switched to rb instead of pappy.
Night fall in 7 Hrs
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Vote tally
Kash-1- JL
JL-10- Lani Wycco Kash Ogre Jm Dawg Zaffy Rocker Zsand Rich
Dawg-1- Paper
no votes:
Coler Annie
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Vote tally
Kash-1- JL
JL-10- Lani Wycco Kash Ogre Jm Dawg Zaffy Rocker Zsand Rich
Dawg-1- Paper
no votes:
Coler Annie
OgreMkV
Father of Earth's Next Emperor
Paper... huh?
So are you one of John's teammates? I can understand being new and not wanting to vote your teammate, but at this point, do you think you'll change other's minds?
OK, annie only pops in occasionally, so I can see why she hasn't voted. What's Coler waiting for? Is there something we need to know Coler?
There is one possibility that makes me think this all may be OK. Ice said he delivered a list last night. What if Wycco isn't the seer, but the recipient of the list? That's why he wanted to come out... it wouldn't hurt us if he died getting the info to us.
That's really the only thing that makes sense to me at this point. If Wycco really was the seer, then he knew his investigation list was going out (or was already out). The reason that the seer hasn't come out is that he knows that Wyccos representation of the list is accurate so he feels safe.
The biggest potential problem I see is if Wycco is the seer and his report is accurate, then the vamps know it too. If they get a turn, then we're almost going to have to start taking out the innocents on his list because those are the most likely vamp choices.
Wow its quiet today
Paper, I somewhat agree that this all feels really odd, but I think we have to take Wycco's info at face value for tonight at least. We still have numbers and although I would hate to stake a Villager if this is a setup, the chance of staking one of the Vamps far outweighs the Cons. I do think there is a good chance JL could be the Day 1 Turn although I personally would have chosen someone less high profile. Your vote on Dawg is a throwaway vote. If you do not want to jump on the JL train you should vote for Kash who is JL's lynch candidate. Any other votes look like you do not want to be involved in tonights lynch which is scummy IMO with such a good chance at hitting a Vamp for two nights in a row. The Village needs this badly.
Paper, I somewhat agree that this all feels really odd, but I think we have to take Wycco's info at face value for tonight at least. We still have numbers and although I would hate to stake a Villager if this is a setup, the chance of staking one of the Vamps far outweighs the Cons. I do think there is a good chance JL could be the Day 1 Turn although I personally would have chosen someone less high profile. Your vote on Dawg is a throwaway vote. If you do not want to jump on the JL train you should vote for Kash who is JL's lynch candidate. Any other votes look like you do not want to be involved in tonights lynch which is scummy IMO with such a good chance at hitting a Vamp for two nights in a row. The Village needs this badly.
I was hoping other people would have been posting by now so we could come up with another strong vampire suspect in the thread.
Sorry, Coler. I wasn't meaning to be coded or veiled. I'd already said what that idea was but is a crummy way to play this if I take it upon myself to do it.
What I decided to do instead was turn it around on JohnLarson to call his bluff.
It's a last resort.
A player can leave the game by choice and Ice has to reveal their role whether he wants to or not. It's a technicality.. using the rules. Not how we're supposed to play, which Ogre pointed out right away.. vehemently. It's the same thing as not voting would lead to a UD... just works faster.
If John is innocent as he wants us to believe, he can take himself out of the game right now and "prove it" without waiting for us to lynch him first at nightfall just to find out. If truly innocent, it's a trade-off costing 1 innocent life.... but it would prove this: That Wycco and Kashta are both lying, that John's not a vampire, and the town would lynch either Wycco or Kashta instead of him. In reality, he's not going to do that because he is a vampire and can't let his role be exposed.
It's the same way for me. Again as a last resort, I can do the same thing to reveal my role (if necessary) to prove Wycco is telling the truth. As a player, I'm not going to do this on my own because it's not fair for me or any one player to decide this unilaterally. But if the town agrees to it by a large enough majority (to overcome the fact that the vampire team needs to prevent it) the town could ask me to do it. If the town needs to know my role badly enough they agree to sacrifice 1 life to verify my role, I would do it. Bottom line is I don't care if I live or die as long as the town wins.
The only way the town can win is to systematically kill people off one person at a time. We're already doing by lynching/staking someone every nightfall. So really, it's just the same thing if it's a majority decision. The benefit would be to expose the roles.. expose the lies.. and lynch another vampire (hopefully) before another villager gets turned.
Sorry, Coler. I wasn't meaning to be coded or veiled. I'd already said what that idea was but is a crummy way to play this if I take it upon myself to do it.
What I decided to do instead was turn it around on JohnLarson to call his bluff.
It's a last resort.
A player can leave the game by choice and Ice has to reveal their role whether he wants to or not. It's a technicality.. using the rules. Not how we're supposed to play, which Ogre pointed out right away.. vehemently. It's the same thing as not voting would lead to a UD... just works faster.
If John is innocent as he wants us to believe, he can take himself out of the game right now and "prove it" without waiting for us to lynch him first at nightfall just to find out. If truly innocent, it's a trade-off costing 1 innocent life.... but it would prove this: That Wycco and Kashta are both lying, that John's not a vampire, and the town would lynch either Wycco or Kashta instead of him. In reality, he's not going to do that because he is a vampire and can't let his role be exposed.
It's the same way for me. Again as a last resort, I can do the same thing to reveal my role (if necessary) to prove Wycco is telling the truth. As a player, I'm not going to do this on my own because it's not fair for me or any one player to decide this unilaterally. But if the town agrees to it by a large enough majority (to overcome the fact that the vampire team needs to prevent it) the town could ask me to do it. If the town needs to know my role badly enough they agree to sacrifice 1 life to verify my role, I would do it. Bottom line is I don't care if I live or die as long as the town wins.
The only way the town can win is to systematically kill people off one person at a time. We're already doing by lynching/staking someone every nightfall. So really, it's just the same thing if it's a majority decision. The benefit would be to expose the roles.. expose the lies.. and lynch another vampire (hopefully) before another villager gets turned.
