Mafia 54:Vampires Return (The Play)

And because Rich is innocent we have to presume that either all the vampires were on rich or all the vampires were on jpappy...the reason being that if jpappy wanted to be saved, they were not able to do so, so they were all voting rich. If jpappy wanted to be lynched, all the vampires would have been on him, except himself of course, to enable them to claim credit. That seems unarguable to me unless their team really fell apart early in the game.
 
Pappy kept going after JM- distancing or trying to make an innocent look suspicious? Hard to tell.

Zaffy and Ogre both tried to cast suspicion on me being the seer? Genuine suspicion or an attempt to get the priest to protect JL?

Lam, Paper Dragon and Annie- how the heck do we know... I could investigate- but they're all new- so one would think the lead vampire wouldn't have picked them as a first choice.

I missed Rocker off earlier too didn't I?
So that narrows down to JM, Zaffy, Ogre, Rocker, ZSand, Coler.

I tend to think Coler is innocent- either that or playing a smart game all along. WAS it a coincidence that JL and Zsand's names were merged at games start- or was it a mistake copying and pasting and forgot to seperate the two vampires? We know JL was guilty from day one. If so- the vampires wouldn't have used their one change yet.

I'm leaning on two out of JM, Zaffy, Ogre and ZSand. Can't rule out Rocker or Coler completely though.

Don't really know which... a lot of people suspect JM... I'm not convinced one way or the other with any of that group of four.
 
Coler said:
And because Rich is innocent we have to presume that either all the vampires were on rich or all the vampires were on jpappy...the reason being that if jpappy wanted to be saved, they were not able to do so, so they were all voting rich. If jpappy wanted to be lynched, all the vampires would have been on him, except himself of course, to enable them to claim credit. That seems unarguable to me unless their team really fell apart early in the game.
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We know how hard Jl pushed for a pap lynch. Just to gather all the facts.
 
Lam, Paper Dragon and Annie- how the heck do we know... I could investigate- but they're all new- so one would think the lead vampire wouldn't have picked them as a first choice.
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I guess actually they wouldn't be a first choice because we know JL was... I suppose one of the above could be Lead Vamp if this was random.
 
Coler said:
Final D2 vote tally.

Of list b) I exclude Wycco (uncontradicted claim of seer) ,Jpap (dead vampire) and myself (obviously) ,Zaffy,Zsand,Kash. That would mean the other three are Zaffy, ZS and Kash.

we can also safely enough exclude kashta from list B - that is people voting for rich. This would leave myself (for your purposes), Zaffy and ZS as vampire suspects.

 Of list c)I exclude RB (dead innocent) and that means the other three are amongst Ogre, JL, Jm, Rocker and Annie.

We now know that JL was a vampire
Thoughts anyone ?
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And we now know that JL was a vampire when voting for jpappy. Surely this means the vampire plan was to vote pappy and that the other vamps are amongst Ogre, JM, Rocker and Annie.

I really think we are working from two out of those four, and you know my preferences. Wycco - the investigation of Rich really helped & well done.
 
Wycco - if you investigate Ogre or Rocker I'd be happy (I'm hoping to lynch JM tonight).

I tend to suspect you will clear Ogre if you investigate him. As to why not investigate Annie...meh I guess you could...but the others have posted more and we would know more by learning their status publicly.
 
jm1212 said:
Coler, what exactly have i done to seem vamp? you havent proven anything, except the babbling on about pappy's allegations, and we know how credible they are.
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Are you just not reading what I'm posting ? That's all drawn on objective matters of fact and record.

What have you done in this game anyway except vote pappy (looks almost certainly to have been a vampire ploy - JL was on board) and vote JL (a no brainer and counts for diddly squat in establishing your innocence).

Otherwise, you've done nothing for the town this game.
 
Coler said:
Are you just not reading what I'm posting ? That's all drawn on objective matters of fact and record.

What have you done in this game anyway except vote pappy (looks almost certainly to have been a vampire ploy - JL was on board) and vote JL (a no brainer and counts for diddly squat in establishing your innocence).

Otherwise, you've done nothing for the town this game.
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