Mafia 54:Vampires Return (The Play)

[Kashta]

Can't see past Zaffy. What else was JM a known vamp doing making a last minute switch like that. It would be senseless to vote anywhere else.

They should just concede if Zaffy is LV.

I'm keeping my vote on Zaffy no matter what happens. He's the one Ogre and JM gave the Lead Vamp role to and he can't change it again no matter who else he turns. The one who got turned tonight won't matter.

Zaffy made this post against Annie before nightfall.

I think Annie certainly made a stink last night after kash brought forth that evidence which makes him a strong link, or creepy stalker, with Ogre.

This suspcion doesn't hold up. At the time he posted that, there were only 3 vampires.

Ogre (vampire staked)
JM (vampire shot by hunter)
ONE unconfirmed turn from the previous day.

That turn would be Zaffy.

He's also the one who tried to make it sound plural just before that trying to get us NOT to vote JM next. He even said as much when I pushed him to answer my question.

 

[Zaffy]

You forgot option C:

C: True.

 

[Zaffy]

..

He's also the one who tried to make it sound plural just before that trying to get us NOT to vote JM next. He even said as much when I pushed him to answer my question.

Yeah, I did try to make it sound plural, because it was. I even quoted Ice where he said they were back up to 3.

 

[lanimret]

I have 3 suspects and 2 potential spots (the new 3rd vampire doesn't count because that just happened).

JM
Ogre
Zaffy

I trust Wycco because I have more evidence to do so than anyone.

JM has done pretty much everything but beg to be lynched.

Zaffy I've suspected from the beginning.


I vote to lynch Ogre

In my mind, of the 3, ogre is the only sure thing at this point. I never suspected Zsand, we should have lynched JM last night, you guys pooched it up!

I posted that yesterday, and at the time it was true. At the time, it was impossible for Zaff to have been the lead vamp. He was either turned that night, turned today, or is innocent.

I highly doubt anyone would turn him as he's prime lynch bait. So vamp or not, it doesn't make sense to lynch him.

I am still trying to figure out who are better suspects.

Coler - Had he been turned in the last few moves and given the LV and turned Wycco himself (or vise versa) we are in big trouble.

Annie - Very chatty, nothing specific, but getting a word in on every topic.

Wycco - Obvious turn candidate, doubt he's the LV, but not positive.

I'm worried at this point, rooting out the LV could be a guessing game.

 

[lanimret]

Im new, so if I missed a rule somewhere and it is possible, please point it out.

 

[Zaffy]

Coler is cleared as innocent by Wycco.

The seer sees last so he can't be the turn. Unless Wycco is a double agent which there's no real evidence of.

 

[Kashta]

Yeah, I did try to make it sound plural, because it was. I even quoted Ice where he said they were back up to 3.

It doesn't add up, Zaffy. We know Ogre and JM were vamps as FACT now. They were down to 2 vamps and got a turn after that.

If Annie was the turn from Day 5 (instead of you).... there was NO connection between Annie and Ogre before Day 5. Duh!! lmao.

By pursing a connection between Annie and Ogre now that isn't possible, you're proving the case against you all by yourself.

 

[Zaffy]

It doesn't add up, Zaffy. We know Ogre and JM were vamps as FACT now. They were down to 2 vamps and got a turn after that.

If Annie was the turn from Day 5 (instead of you).... there was NO connection between Annie and Ogre before Day 5. Duh!! lmao.

By pursing a connection between Annie and Ogre now that isn't possible, you're proving the case against you all by yourself.

The vampires search out their next victim. They are careful this time and the bite is perfect.

They now again number 3.

I think we must be talking about different things.

 

[Zaffy]

If it was:
Ogre
JM
Unknown

Can the unknown be the LV?

Can Annie be the unknown?

Can Annie be the LV?

Can anyone else be the Unknown?

 

[Kashta]

I think we must be talking about different things.

That's what you're trying to do now, Zaffy. I was very specific. I asked you point blank. You were protecting JM so we'd vote someone else instead after we staked Ogre tonight.

In case Wycco's investigation tonight comes up innocent.

Anyone have theories on who the other vamps are? The voting record today seems pretty much set at this point.

Vamps.... plural? Other than Ogre and JM, there's only one so far.

Zaffy, are you trying to tell us it's not JM?

Yup, plural.

You didn't answer my question, Zaffy.

How do we know it is JM?

What is Wycco investigates JM and he comes out as clean? is there a plan B?

I think this sums it up.

bye bye Zaffy.

Once again, Zaffy. This "unknown" was before nightfall. With both Ogre and JM dead now they had to pass the Lead Vamp role to the 3rd vampire.... before nightfall.

Today's turn makes it the 1 surviving vamp/turn (and the new LV) plus whoever got turned after nightfall.