Mafia 54:Vampires Return (The Play)

[Wycco]

So if "lesser" means someone who was turned- and the absence means they were that at the start- that means:

Before Day one began - Ogre and JM were the two originals... most likely with Ogre as lead.
Day one pick- had to be JL.
Day two pick had to be JPap (since he was lynched next)
Day three we got Jpap
Day four- we got JL.
Day five ??? was turned we lynched ZS.
Day six we got Ogre ??? was tuurned.

You're right though... if vampire means they were not "turned" after game start Zaffy could not have been turned before day 5.

That doesn't mean innocent though... and I think I listed Zaffy as one of my "less likely" of the "Ogre/JM/ZSand/Zaffy" four main suspects and so they might have thought I wouldn't investigate him. It would mean to ignore evidence before day 5 on Zaffy though.

Thing is- I wasn't sure on Zaffy before day start- but his defence today has made me lean a little more to guilty.

 

[lanimret]

Another minor question. If you were to lynch someone the day they were turned, they would show as innocent right? Because the turn comes after the lynching.

So anyone that showed up as a lesser-vampire theoretically had to have been so since atleast the prior nightfall?

If the lesser-vampire thing and that turns out to be the case, then we can narrow thing's down quite a bit.

 

[rich311k]

Another minor question. If you were to lynch someone the day they were turned, they would show as innocent right? Because the turn comes after the lynching.

So anyone that showed up as a lesser-vampire theoretically had to have been so since atleast the prior nightfall?

If the lesser-vampire thing and that turns out to be the case, then we can narrow thing's down quite a bit.

That is the order of events the turning would come after the lynch so they would be innocent.

 

[Coler]

Yeh...if the hit/turn victim gets lynched, the LV has no chance at a turn & loses the hit.

That's worth looking at a bit...LV would prefer to shoot at a person unlikely to be the subject of the lynch.

 

[rich311k]

Problem is we only had two nights were it was not a landslide.

 

[rich311k]

I feel bad but I really don't have a good idea. If I had to pick two I would say Annie and zaf but not sure how much sense that makes.

 

[Coler]

Just replaying the Ogre lynch. Bearing in mind that there was Ogre, plus JM now dead known vamp, plus one more and then plus a turn, that means that on this nightfall there was just the one unknown vampire (Ogre and JM making up the trio).

I'd say focusing around this time might prove fruitful as there are basically less variables....factoring in also the fact that we have Wycco as a known innocent at this time (I still think wycco is innocent but trying to deal with empirical fact as much as possible) that leaves me with Ogre, JM, Wycco and myself as persons who's status is certain for my purposes.

That means it was one of you guys here :


Annie
Kash
Zaffy
Rocker
Lanimret
Rich
Paperdragon

In fact...you now know for a fact that I was certainly innocent on that nightfall - so even if you want to consider me possibly turned last night, which I was not, each of you can take my name off the list for the remaining vamp at this time. Each of you who are innocent can also take your own name off. What that means is that you will be operating from a total of 6 suspects only.

My advice is to process the game as much as possible up until that nightfall and pick your best choice from the 6 names you are left with and that is the one to vote for - that point in time is the instant where thus far we have had least variables to deal with.

For what its worth posts which drew my attention in particular in relation to the Ogre vote were :

:rofl: settle down wycco,im here lol, I Vote to lynch ogre, voting on someone else isnt going to do much.

Just very late to the dance...yeah could have been for whatever reason but y'know

i retract my vote for zaffy and vote to lynch ogre

may as well.

Rocker was very late to the dance on Ogre.

Obviously JM gets on Ogre just for the look of the thing initially. One wonders whether his vote on Zaffy is not meant to immunise Zaffy in the likely event of JM being dead in the next lynch (he wouldn't of course have known he was going to be shot by the hunter).

Kinda still leading me to Zaffy as the remaining vamp on that night.

 

[Wycco]

/ GAME OFF /

I just had an awesome idea for a mafia type game- does anyone know where the main thread for upcoming hostings is and how to sign up as narrator.

Premise is: Town has had a lot of unusual deaths lately- and they don't know why.

They won't know what kind of foe is hitting them until they catch one of the bad guys.

There is a bit more too it than that- but I don't want to go into more depth as it would spoil the mystery.

The only KNOWN role to everyone at the start of the game is "The Mayor" - (you won't know who is picked as the Mayor- but the purpose of the Mayor is to keep me straight... so that SOMEONE other than me knows the rules )

The Mayor will know the entire plot and the rules of the game and what roles have been assigned (but not to whom). The only rule is- the Mayor is not allowed to tell anyone who the enemy is- or what roles exist. The rest of the town will slowly figure out what is hitting them... but will it be too late?

There is a big twist to the game- but saying it would ruin the fun... the Mayor will know the twist from day one.

/ GAME ON /

 

[Coler]

Wasn't I in fact investigated last night and came up innocent ? Yeah that would make more sense - ok so you can definitely all remove me from your list on the Ogre lynch night, and your own, and JM and Ogre, and Wycco, and that will leave you with just six suspects one of whom was the remaining vamp (and in fact for what it is worth, one further of those names is the new turn).

So two from six...can't be that hard to collectively work out.

It would help me a lot if each person in that mix gave up their top two and no more than two suspects.

 

[Coler]

Durn it I keep having ideas.

I think Annie was likely to have been innocent at the point where Ogre was being lynched i.e. prior to last night's turn.

The reason being Annie was posting a bit and JM got all involved stating at one point that Rich and I ought to be all over this. Bearing in mind that they would have liked to do something to save Ogre etc. I would see this as more likely to be JM having a go at an innocent than anything else, if you wanted to factor that into your deliberations on who is likely to be the one from six who was a vampire at that time.