Mafia 54:Vampires Return (The Play)

Also, why do you doubt Annie could be the Lead Vampire? Most people noticed a change and started suspecting her yesterday- the vampire that is lead would be in all liklihood the one turned two nights (if not earlier) ago- not the one turned last night.
 
Sorry guys... Vampire and lesser vamps are the same thing. I don't always think while running night, just trying to get it over with to get back to whatever I was doing.


Vote tally

Zaffy- Rocker Kash Rich Coler Annie Wycco

Kash- Lani

no votes:

Zaffy Paper
 
I could be wrong- but as I've explained before- I highly doubt Kashta is the lead vampire. It is very possible that she was turned last night- but the night before she was too quick on the ball posting a suggestion to have been turned and greeted her fellow vamps, etc... before offering JM as a lynch target.

Thus if Kashta is a vampire she is most likely only a lesser one.

You know, I don't know. I'm kind of grasping at straws here. I have no conviction on anything at the moment except that I don't think Zaff can be the LV if we are correct about the rules.

Beyond that I'm confused as hell.

I'm hoping someone can come up with a brilliant last minute deduction here that I am clearly missing.

I will say, no matter what happens, well played vamps.
 
Sorry guys... Vampire and lesser vamps are the same thing. I don't always think while running night, just trying to get it over with to get back to whatever I was doing.


Vote tally

Zaffy- Rocker Kash Rich Coler Annie Wycco

Kash- Lani

no votes:

Zaffy Paper

Ah hell, then all of that is out the window.

*sigh*
 
Two things bug me about this today... the first being, who do we kill off tonight and tomorrow night and how to make sure we've got the right people (obviously). The second, trying to figure out what the vamps were thinking earlier... and still are, as they do all this together even after they're killed. Dead or alive, it's a given that players like Jpappy, John, Ogre, and JM are still highly engrossed in current developments and the eventual outcome. They all take a keen interest in these games whether they're actively playing them, modding them... or just reading along. They also put too much time and effort into this to simply disappear and take a fully hands-off approach from that point forward.

Knowing this makes it very frustrating to look over the names of surviving players, trying to evaluate which one they picked as the LV and last night's newest turn. It's too easy to find half a dozen reasonable arguments for and against every one of us.

For all our insightful analysis here, they literally could have picked a name out of a hat. A player with experience doesn't need much help and a complete beginner would be easy for them to guide.

Thinking along these lines, it also dawned on me that they had plenty of warning that both Ogre and JM had been found LONG before they got killed. They've had more than enough time to set this up on a hunch that we won't guess how they did it. Our active players who post a lot end up drawing the most interest/suspicion... the quiet ones we'll have to pretty much kill off at random until we nail the right one.
 
I vote to stake Zaffy

Sorry, no constructive comments. I've been feeling lousy all day, and my brain is too foggy to think straight (headache).
 
Two things bug me about this today... the first being, who do we kill off tonight and tomorrow night and how to make sure we've got the right people (obviously). The second, trying to figure out what the vamps were thinking earlier... and still are, as they do all this together even after they're killed. Dead or alive, it's a given that players like Jpappy, John, Ogre, and JM are still highly engrossed in current developments and the eventual outcome. They all take a keen interest in these games whether they're actively playing them, modding them... or just reading along. They also put too much time and effort into this to simply disappear and take a fully hands-off approach from that point forward.

Knowing this makes it very frustrating to look over the names of surviving players, trying to evaluate which one they picked as the LV and last night's newest turn. It's too easy to find half a dozen reasonable arguments for and against every one of us.

For all our insightful analysis here, they literally could have picked a name out of a hat. A player with experience doesn't need much help and a complete beginner would be easy for them to guide.

Thinking along these lines, it also dawned on me that they had plenty of warning that both Ogre and JM had been found LONG before they got killed. They've had more than enough time to set this up on a hunch that we won't guess how they did it. Our active players who post a lot end up drawing the most interest/suspicion... the quiet ones we'll have to pretty much kill off at random until we nail the right one.

naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah....c'mon....seriously ? what is this the strategy ? scummiest thing I've seen posted today.
 
If I had to pick two suspects, and I admit the reasoning is seriously subjective, but really that is all we have at this point.

Kashta - Were i the lead, thats who I would have chosen. She was found innocent once (after being heavily suspected) giving her a lot of leeway. One of the most experienced players, and a perfectly capable LV for switching with.

Annie - Her posts recently and vigor in her accusations make me suspect. I doubt she's the LV though, highly.

I wouldn't completely rule out Zaff, Rich, Rocker, or paper, but if I had to guess those are my two.

Just incase I don't get back on later, I am going to vote just so I don't end up not voting before nightfall. Seriously subject to change.

I vote to lynch Kashta

One other theory by the way, a bit out there though, is that Wycco was turned 2 turns ago after he outed himself. He then turned Coler last nightfall, and then announced him innocent in order to totally allay suspcision. This is a worst case scenario because it would mean narrowing down the suspects becomes nearly impossible, we have no hope of forming a consensus, and the vampires will win.

I highly doubt wycco was turned, unless we have a mentally challenged priest. The priest is almost certainly still a townie. I'd bet that Wycco has been protected since he came out.
 
Y'know Zaffy,

You're not playing games are trying to pass the blame like Ogre and JohnL did. I'm also not convinced there was much evidence prior to today to lynch you- I think your early defence sounded a tad bit guilty... but I'm still not sure.

Lan is the only one half-heartedly protecting you and he is my lead suspect for who was turned last night... but... even if Lan is trying to cast doubt on your guilt- I don't think he is doing it strongly enough.

I think there is perhaps a stronger case against Rocker or Annie but I'm really not sure which.


I retract my vote on Zaffy.
 
I'm having precisely the same thoughts. In particular regarding Rocker.

Also...I'm just wondering...whether Kashta is trying to tell us something.
 
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