Mafia 55...Badlands Twisted...the Play...

[noodles62]

I know this sounds scummy but I am gonna say it anyway. I am busy and quite frankly exasperated at this point. If so many feel that I am scum then vote me off. When I turn up innocent who will you all look at next? I have pretty much lost couny but it looks like there are 3 votes for Wycco, 2 for me, 1 for Z, 2 for JL, 1 for Dawg and 3 for Mc and of course the mysterious lab workers extra vote..... It could go anyway.....we shall see.

 

[Kashta]

I am curious about the late co-ordination against me- none of which really make much sense.

1) ZSand is voting for me for defamation of his character- whereas the only thing I've said about him is that he is usually quiet- as indeed he has been in every game I've played with him.

2) Kashta is voting for me because she believes Noodles to be guilty and I've been "protecting Noodles". Again, doesn't make any sense. If I'm guilty only because I'm protecting Noodles who you believe is guilty- why the vote on me? Wouldn't a vote on Noodles make more sense?

3) John L is voting for me based on the LuvBugs connection that he admits now was a fallacy.

All well and good- but I think it's important to note, should I end up getting the lynch- what three people voted against me right at the end of the day- and what their reasoning (or lack thereof was). I'm leaning more ZSand guilty than innocent now- although I still think JL is the better candidate.

Wycco, you're not being accurate at all. I find that troubling, to be honest.

When I voted you, I was also considering Noods. I've in no way said she's definitely guilty. My feeling that you're up to something is a little stronger than my suspicion of Noodles based on just her game play. So.. if I was voting you because I think Noodles is guilty... I wouldn't be voting you at all. I'd be voting Noodles instead and calling you suspicious as a next likely candidate.

You're really working at twisting my position around, while I've been very clear to avoid just that sort of confusion when writing my posts.

Furthermore... nobody else had a vote on you at the time I retracted my random JL vote and voted you instead.... which put me out there all by myself. Then as I was writing my post with all your quotes in it... both JL and Zsand switched to you too. I wasn't expecting that to happen and I don't feel I was building a case or trying to pursuade anyone to respond in any way.

Another possibility for your strong defense of Noodles and saying she's "easily forgiven" for flip-flopping as she's done is that she is innocent but possibly planned as tonight's hit victim. Once she's dead then and revealed as innocent, you've already covered yourself from any backlash by having gone on record to clear her already.

I haven't said Noodles is innocent- I said she is leaning innocent- which is what I believe- the only case against Noodles is that she has changed vote several times which is very forgivable on the first few days given the lack of any serious knowledge- she didn't do any last minute vote flipping- and there isn't really any evidence against her.

I certainly haven't called her pure innocent- anything but- just there is no evidence against her yet.

There isn't going to be any evidence against anybody. We all know that. You have have Noodles leaning MORE innocent than anyone else you've named. Even for players you don't know or about people who are being too quiet to read, your assessment has been cautious and noncommittal. In Noodles' case.. she's not just "leaning innocent" but she's also "easily forgiven".. where you don't give that same benefit of doubt to anyone else.

 

[johnlarson66]

I know this sounds scummy but I am gonna say it anyway. I am busy and quite frankly exasperated at this point. If so many feel that I am scum then vote me off. When I turn up innocent who will you all look at next? I have pretty much lost couny but it looks like there are 3 votes for Wycco, 2 for me, 1 for Z, 2 for JL, 1 for Dawg and 3 for Mc and of course the mysterious lab workers extra vote..... It could go anyway.....we shall see.

So you are going to keep your lone vote on ZS?

I would like for you to get involved. How about a vote for wycco or with wycco on me. I think your lone vote is very bad at this point.

 

[johnlarson66]

I have found Wycco's misrepresntation of facts to be disturbing. His so-called "case" against me is complete falsehood and he has failed to acknowledge my rebuttle to them.

 

[AnniesNotOK]

The same RL issues that have affected me for the last two games continue to linger. Rather than gotten better they have gotten worse. I break up with my girlfriend of fours years and moved out during game one. During game two, my now ex girlfriend continues to hassle me. Here we are in game three, and I new have a new love interest, all the while my ex girlfriend continues to hassle me. But at least I don't have satellite internet. I suppose I should count my blessings.

Wycco- I'm glad Kashta pointed out I was vocal long before I was turned. On top of my many other problems, now and then I tend to take a wee drop of the creature. (I get drunk, for those who don't know what that means.) OK, maybe more than a wee drop. And maybe more than now and then. Expect more random ridiculous ramblings by Annie tonight. I'm having a wee drop now.

 

[johnlarson66]

First off- I highly doubt I'll get voted off- there is no case against me and I can't see many innocents fallign for the trick. It's much more likely you or ZSand will get voted off for this late vote manipulation with Kashta- there is actually evidence against you. Which is why I built a case against you.

Second off- were I to come back guilty (which I wouldn't because I'm innocent) I see no reason to go after Noods because there is nothing linking me to her.

On that same thread that Kash quoted about me saying I have Noodles Leaning Innocent- I said the same about JPap - said I saw nothing incriminating against, Kash, ZSand, or Dawg. I'm not sure where the Noodles connection comes from.

What is the trick? Is Kash behind the trick? ZS? Me? Are me and ZS working together? Me and Kash? Kash and ZS?

Do you really think this is some sort of co-ordination? Even if you come up as innocent, I really doubt the three of us are evil. I would be more concerned with Kash and ZS (and me) if you come up as evil. There is no way there is any co-ordination.

 

[johnlarson66]

The same RL issues that have affected me for the last two games continue to linger. Rather than gotten better they have gotten worse. I break up with my girlfriend of fours years and moved out during game one. During game two, my now ex girlfriend continues to hassle me. Here we are in game three, and I new have a new love interest, all the while my ex girlfriend continues to hassle me. But at least I don't have satellite internet. I suppose I should count my blessings.

Wycco- I'm glad Kashta pointed out I was vocal long before I was turned. On top of my many other problems, now and then I tend to take a wee drop of the creature. (I get drunk, for those who don't know what that means.) OK, maybe more than a wee drop. And maybe more than now and then. Expect more random ridiculous ramblings by Annie tonight. I'm having a wee drop now.

So Mr. Annie, are you going to keep your vote on MC?

 

[AnniesNotOK]

I know this sounds scummy but I am gonna say it anyway. I am busy and quite frankly exasperated at this point. If so many feel that I am scum then vote me off. When I turn up innocent who will you all look at next? I have pretty much lost couny but it looks like there are 3 votes for Wycco, 2 for me, 1 for Z, 2 for JL, 1 for Dawg and 3 for Mc and of course the mysterious lab workers extra vote..... It could go anyway.....we shall see.

Hmmmm...I think JL was right, you do seem to be cracking. And this post is scummy. Who are the "so many" that find you guilty??? I only see two votes on you. I moved my vote to MC for a similar post, crying "what are you gonna do when I come up innocent" is scummy to me.

 

[Kashta]

First off- I highly doubt I'll get voted off- there is no case against me and I can't see many innocents fallign for the trick. It's much more likely you or ZSand will get voted off for this late vote manipulation with Kashta- there is actually evidence against you. Which is why I built a case against you.

Wycco.. if you're pro-town, why the hell build a case against anyone? That's what the mafia/evil side does. It makes no sense for you to even say this if you're innocent.

Second off- were I to come back guilty (which I wouldn't because I'm innocent) I see no reason to go after Noods because there is nothing linking me to her.

On that same thread that Kash quoted about me saying I have Noodles Leaning Innocent- I said the same about JPap - said I saw nothing incriminating against, Kash, ZSand, or Dawg. I'm not sure where the Noodles connection comes from.

You're being inaccurate again.

Yes, it's true that you called Jpappy "leaning innocent" ... but you also went on to say "But JPap worries me" and that he's "a slippery fish" which are mitigating statements. That's what you didn't do when talking about Noodles. Then seeing nothing incriminating about me, Zs, or Dawg is also not calling us "slightly innocent" either.

Your attempt at splitting hairs now after defending Noodles is just making you look worse... IMO.

 

[AnniesNotOK]

So Mr. Annie, are you going to keep your vote on MC?

Well, Mr Potatoe Man, I'm really not sure. I will say that I find you more and more innocent as you post, but I also joined your team late last game, and read all your backdoor scheming, so I know how easily you could be manipulating me. Who would you like to see me move it to?