Mafia #57: The Great Mafia War- The Game

[johnlarson66]

If my vote needs to move to lynch a mafia it would be at this time moved to RB. I don't trust Luv and she implicated RB early on and again today but voted Ogre because she thinks Annie is mafia and trying to protect Ogre. This doesn't make sense to me at all. Don't know why you would vote someone you think might be mafia when you think you know another is mafia.

Obviously I'd prefer to keep my vote as is because my feeling is more that Luv is mafia then the others in the running but I would move to RB if needed.

Maybe Luv and Rb are mafia also. There are 2 teams that do not know who is on the other team.

What do you think about Ogre? Anything stand out?

 

[johnlarson66]

I mean Luv seems more scummy then you. Not that Luv seems more scummy then what Ogre and DD have done.

DD and Ogre are definitely on the upper portion of the watch list and if you're lynched and innocent would be the 2 I pushed the envelope on.

If I had invests I'd probably invest one of them.

See, this here is logic I just don't buy.

Why would I (if I was mafia) join a train on someone, when there are so many singleton votes. I could just stay hidden and let the chips fall as they may... kinda like others are doing.

Here's another of Ice's famed D*mned if you do and d*mned if you don't moments.

You were only the 2nd on so I'd hardly say you jumped on a train. 3 or more is what I consider a train. What I'm concerned about is the logic you used to come to your conclusion.

Do you really think someone would refrain from making a Day 1 post because they haven't communicated with their team yet?

What do you think about Lan and MC not posting yet, they waiting too?

I'm not saying that you are mafia,though your response to my post makes me feel you became defensive about it and could be one. I was just saying if I had invests I'd invest either of you to either know mafia or have you cleared and taken off as a suspect of mine.

The above exchange was more than 3 hours before nightfall.

 

[johnlarson66]

I am assuming the "you" in the first statment is Annie.

 

[IceH2O]

My feelings on Ogre? Not sure, with 2 teams it does muddy the thought process. Mafia could be lynching mafia from the other team to look good and lower the other team numbers so I can't really say such and such is innocent.All it means is that they could be on the other mafia team.

Thing I don't like about Ogre, this post.

See, this here is logic I just don't buy.

Why would I (if I was mafia) join a train on someone, when there are so many singleton votes. I could just stay hidden and let the chips fall as they may... kinda like others are doing.

Here's another of Ice's famed D*mned if you do and d*mned if you don't moments.

Don't like the "why would I" posts. Then he tries to discredit me with the damned if you do/don't statement.

His willingness to make last night a 3 way tie then today wants a 2 way race doesn't sit well either.

But I feel stronger about Luv then Ogre right now. Ogre as mafia isn't usually so out in the open and when he is usually messes up so I'm not really afraid of being played by him.

I don't trust anyone but I do trust the following even less.

JL
LG
DD

for the reason showed below

You'll have to keep going if you want to beat RB's record...

Really??? Whats his record???

I retract my vote for JMax and vote to lynch Dawg.

I retract my vote for Dawg and vote to lynch RB.

I reract my vote for RB and vote to lynch Jmax again.

Start posting weasel(s).

This is why Annie voted the way he did. How did any of you miss this? I think you all thought you had a convenient reason and ran with it.


My suspect list includes everyone but my highest priority

JL,LG,DD for Annie

Luv for implicating RB twice then voting for different players.

Rb for being implicated by Luv but not voted on by her.

 

[IceH2O]

I am assuming the "you" in the first statment is Annie.

That would be correct.

 

[johnlarson66]

Annie
Ogre
Rb
Luv

These four seem to have gathered the most interest. Odd with a game including Ice, myself, ZS and DD. Plus the return of judgemax and has LG playing.

Here are my thoughts on the four getting the attention.

Annie - a vocal player that likes to be active - has wanted to place the blame of Kash's death on someone, but in reality, Kash was killed by a coin toss.

Ogre - claims I leaped on to Annie and that it was odd. I find it odd that he was okay with Annie trying to hold someone accountable on a day one lynch of two votes. I think with a little heat, Ogre will crack.

Rb - (speaking of crack) I have just come to the conclusion that Rb just plays "differently". He could be mafia, he could be "different". Really what has he done than he ever does.

Luv - where is Luv, another one that cracks under pressure, even when innocent. Maybe Luv was told to stay away so as not to draw attention.

When it comes down to it, I wouldn't mind to see any of these 4 lynched. I don't think they are overly vocal, so it is not for being vocal - which most of the time gets people listed as a suspect.

 

[OgreMkV]

John, Ice, I'm the continual target for everyone because everything I say is scummy and the mafia know that I'm an easy target.

I made my case, I happen to agree with Ice's list... up to a point.

AMazing that this game is so quiet with everything...

 

[johnlarson66]

What I mean is, later in the game, after the scumbags have taken out a couple innocents on day one and two, its almost your responsibility to change your vote to someone you think might be scummy in a tie you're in. But this early, moving my vote to save my neck seems scummy.

Noone I move my vote to now is any scummier than anyone else. Let the chips fall.

My feelings on Ogre? Not sure, with 2 teams it does muddy the thought process. Mafia could be lynching mafia from the other team to look good and lower the other team numbers so I can't really say such and such is innocent.All it means is that they could be on the other mafia team.

Thing I don't like about Ogre, this post.




Don't like the "why would I" posts. Then he tries to discredit me with the damned if you do/don't statement.

His willingness to make last night a 3 way tie then today wants a 2 way race doesn't sit well either.

But I feel stronger about Luv then Ogre right now. Ogre as mafia isn't usually so out in the open and when he is usually messes up so I'm not really afraid of being played by him.

I don't trust anyone but I do trust the following even less.

JL
LG
DD

for the reason showed below






This is why Annie voted the way he did. How did any of you miss this? I think you all thought you had a convenient reason and ran with it.


My suspect list includes everyone but my highest priority

JL,LG,DD for Annie

Luv for implicating RB twice then voting for different players.

Rb for being implicated by Luv but not voted on by her.

John, Ice, I'm the continual target for everyone because everything I say is scummy and the mafia know that I'm an easy target.

I made my case, I happen to agree with Ice's list... up to a point.

AMazing that this game is so quiet with everything...

I am trying to understand Ice's list of least trusted. Is it because we all voted for Annie? Seems like an odd plan for us to all pile up on Annie for some day one posts. WTF are we all going to do if he comes up innocent and we were pushing for him? Which I don't think many have pushed for him.

As for as Ogre goes, I don't know what his case is. Still not sure on the Rb vote and why not the Annie vote plus the whole 2 horse race on day 2 thing. I don't think you are "the continual target for everyone" not that everything you say is scummy and the mafia think of you as an easy target. IME while being mafia, I have not felt that way and really can't think of anyone that has. I do know that new players have a tendency to follow you. I do know that when you are scummy you play differently. You have a deffensiveness about you and an aggressive edge at times. I will say this, if Ogre is mafia, then I totally own him. Right now Ogre is my number one choice, but I really don't need to lead the charge on him and I am in no hurry to lynch him. If he is mafia - he will meltdown.

I am suprised Ogre is not on Ice's list, but he didn't vote for Annie.

 

[IceH2O]

I am trying to understand Ice's list of least trusted. Is it because we all voted for Annie? Seems like an odd plan for us to all pile up on Annie for some day one posts. WTF are we all going to do if he comes up innocent and we were pushing for him? Which I don't think many have pushed for him.


I am suprised Ogre is not on Ice's list, but he didn't vote for Annie.

Everyones on my list including Ogre. I just listed the ones I'm more apt to think are mafia due to actions.

Its the reason you used to vote Annie. Maybe not yours as much as LG and DDs so maybe you shouldn't be on the list as high but it bothers me that you are ,even if you think you weren't, pushing for Annie votes.

 

[johnlarson66]

That first quote was from something I was going to multiquote, but I got sidetracked (I am at work).

I think it was damage control from Annie to Orge.

Seems like Ice has Ogre as maybe a suspect but has Annie way down the list.