Mafia 59 - MAFIA WARS - The Play

Rich -1- JL66(11)Noodles(84)
Ice -1- JPap(16)
Kash -1- Annie(37)
JPap -2- Ice(46)DD(85)
Frog -1- TRS(58)
Zaffy -1- Luv(76)
Luv -3- ZSand(81)Kash(91)JL(97)
RB -1- Rich(83)

No votes from: Frog, RB, Zaffy


Apparently Frog wants to vote for noodles? but either doesn't know how to vote, or is mucking up the vote for some other reason. If this is indeed frogs first mafia game, I'm willing to look the other way and assume that he/she is making an innocent mistake.


The quick train on Luvbugs is kinda interesting to me, her vote against me is pretty arbitrary, but the other non-info in her post seems to be what everyone is holding on to. I'd accept that any day except day 1.



Right now I think I'm leaning that possibly there's a set up happening on bugz.


I doubt there is a team between Zsand, Kash, and JL, but I wouldn't be surprised if one, or more of them are scum.


I vote to lynch Kashta


She's the only one with a vote on her right now, so of the three I want to see lynched most, she's the best shot. In summary, I think the trian on bugz formed suspiciously quickly, and that's all I've got right now.
 
Rich -1- JL66(11)Noodles(84)
Ice -1- JPap(16)
Kash -2- Annie(37)Zaffy(101)
JPap -2- Ice(46)DD(85)
Frog -1- TRS(58)
Zaffy -1- Luv(76)
Luv -3- ZSand(81)Kash(91)JL(97)
RB -1- Rich(83)

No votes from: Frog, RB
 
Zaffy,

I am the third vote on Luv. I do not think it is a train. Being the third vote is not always the best place to be as it is often thought that the third vote is the vote that does a player in. Someone has to be the third vote.

I also would 100% agree that at least one of the three of us (ZS, Kash and me) are mafia. I think you can take any three players and make that statement. My guess is that it is 9 vs 5.

The talk of trains when there is three votes is odd. There is no mad dash to lynch Luv, but you seem to be defensive about it. Strange coming from the person that Luv was voting for.
 
I say it's quick because all 3 votes happened within 16 posts of each other. That strikes me as odd for someone to go from 0 votes to leader in 16 posts. You're right, you could pick any three players in this game and make the assumption that one of them is scum, and back it up mathematically, and you'd be correct. If you're disappointed that I didn't vote for you because you were the 3rd vote, then I'm sorry. I'd love to, but as you have 0 votes right now you're a non-contender for lynching at this point. I think my vote being on Kash is more helpful right now than it would be on someone else.

Luv said she voted for me as a random vote, I accept that on day 1. Right or wrong, I'm not good enough at intuition to really argue against that.
 
I vote to lynch Luv....

..simply for the fact it has been pretty routine to do so in several of the last games.
 
I will not be around tonight. I am going to my wifes place to discuss reconciliation. No time to catch up on todays posts now.
 
IceH2O said:
That depends on how you want to see it.

IMO I feel I have a small case against Jpap where he admits his vote is a joke vote. As seen in the quote below.
He then proceeds to say if he found something more concrete he would move there ( bolded statement below). Well isn't that what I said and got jumped on by Jpap? I admit I named a name and he didn't but the joking at that time was focused on Rich and I thought I'd join in.







The more I look at the posts above the more I like my vote. Jpap admits its not random so in essence is admitting he targeted me in post 16 a mere 1.5 hours into Day 1.
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Ice, I have already said that there is (in my mind) a clear difference between a completely random vote and a joke vote. My vote was not random, it was a joke. So no, that does not automatically mean that I "targeted" you.

At some point one has to wonder whether there is really that big of a difference in opinions or whether the two players are on opposing teams. I'm starting to lean towards the latter as you keep trying to push the fact that I somehow went after you.

What I said is also different than what you said. The whole point was you didn't sound so joking about Rich...you specifically said if you were the mod you might give Rich the role and that you were "game" if you didn't find another suspect. That's not random at all (as I have said), and not really a joke either since you there could be something behind the theory, even though you continue to play it off as such. I'm confused what is so joking about joining in lynching a player that didn't do anything concrete to merit the votes. You alluded to that your final vote would be there ("if push comes to shove") and since you wanted to join in the fun, I assume that means you wanted to join in with other people who may have voted for Rich? Why would you want to jump on a train as a joke, Ice? Unless you're keeping to your story (that the whole post was a joke) please explain what exactly you did mean so I don't make the mistake of believing what I just said if it is not correct.

You're also exaggerating what I said. It was one post, after my initial vote, where I questioned your logic. I have yet to use it against you yet you say I jumped on you...I get a sense that you're almost trying to blow this out of proportion.
 
AnniesNotOK said:
I will not be around tonight. I am going to my wifes place to discuss reconciliation. No time to catch up on todays posts now.
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g/o Good luck to you Annie g/o
 
Zaffy said:
I say it's quick because all 3 votes happened within 16 posts of each other. That strikes me as odd for someone to go from 0 votes to leader in 16 posts. You're right, you could pick any three players in this game and make the assumption that one of them is scum, and back it up mathematically, and you'd be correct. If you're disappointed that I didn't vote for you because you were the 3rd vote, then I'm sorry. I'd love to, but as you have 0 votes right now you're a non-contender for lynching at this point. I think my vote being on Kash is more helpful right now than it would be on someone else.

Luv said she voted for me as a random vote, I accept that on day 1. Right or wrong, I'm not good enough at intuition to really argue against that.
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Luv's vote is random, many of the votes are or at least seem to be, as I said the thing that drew me to Luv is that they mentioned other players in their post but then voted you random.

Even on Day 1 if I say A, B, and C are bothering me but then vote Player D that should be looked at heavily. We have pretty good odds of getting a baddie Tonight so I'll take any solid logic I can find.
 
ZSandmann said:
Luv's vote is random, many of the votes are or at least seem to be, as I said the thing that drew me to Luv is that they mentioned other players in their post but then voted you random.

Even on Day 1 if I say A, B, and C are bothering me but then vote Player D that should be looked at heavily. We have pretty good odds of getting a baddie Tonight so I'll take any solid logic I can find.
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I agree that anyone that lists players as suspects then votes for a totally different player is suspect themselves.



Jpap, again you are welcome to your opinion. To me it looks like you are trying to back track now. You placed a vote on me then leaned on me throughout the day cycle. I'm just calling it as I see it. If you think I'm blowing this out of proportion you are mistaken. I'm taking what I think is the most solid case for a Day 1 and being thorough.
 
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