Mafia #6.....The Play

The amount of "protection" she received last night (and now by you) is a bit curious to me.

I was all for voting her out if she didn't show up withs ome answers... now she has and now shes gone, if she doesnt die of a mysterious death then she is a definate target the next night, as for now I am still holding strong on Madcrawdad.
 
OK, lots to answer for now I see. I'll try to answer as much as I can... it's a lot.

1) Ice, you say I didn't answer your questions... I did. I said that I didn't have an opinion on either player you mentioned. Sorry, just don't.

2) Ice, when a player thinks I'm mafia and offers some example of why they think so, then I consider it an attack... especially considering that you are one of my top suspects.

3) Sway and Ice, please not that Coler's last post was his ghost post talking specifically about post 406 (or whatever it was, I'm too tired to go back and find it).

A - these three are basically semantics. There is a difference in how thre three of us involved in this see things. That's OK by me.

4) Please understand that I leave for class at 6A and get back after driving through Houston traffic at about 4:30P. I spend all day learning how to teach and doing labs... I'm tired. I found a computer on campus that I could use for 10 minutes during the morning break... which is when I made my last post. It was a Mac and I deleted what I wanted to write twice before I could post it.

B That's neither here nor there, but might help those that are listening and thinking decide if I'm acting strangely or not.

5) My list remains pretty much the same. Ice, ZSand, Sway, Mike, sploke... at this time I'll add Mad to the list because I'm concerned about him... not nearly as much as the other five... but some.

c these are the five players that created and pushed a lynch train for JMax. If JMax has asked rb to be excused from the game, then we should get her role tonight and I'm betting it's innocent. If rb does not take her out, then I will highly suspect that she's mafia just playing a very stealthy role.

I'd also like to point out that after I posted this list, every one of these players suddenly considers me a suspect, when I had nothing on me before.

6) jpappy, I welcome an investigation from you. Take everything I've said apart. I believe that the lynch JMax train is a very wrong move for the town to make. I believe that it was started and propogated by mafia to a) get a free day b) as an easy way to convince the town that they are really innocents asn have the best interests of the town at heart.

7) At this time, I am considering jpappy, joander, and bkw to be innocent. I am saying this not to protect them (because I don't think they are under any real suspision by anyone), but because if the mafia decide to push a lynch on me then the rest of the town will at least have what I think about some other players.

A few points as I think about them...

8) Dangerdoll... I'm not sure what to think of you. Your posting style hasn't changed, but I'm not real thrilled that you are following Ice and Zsand right now. I'm hoping it's not because you are mafia, but I'm not sure of that... you are slightly suspicious to me right now.

9) I think there's been a lot of thinking about Mike. I still really don't like him. Mike has an almost psycopathically aggressive style, but I do not know how much is personal style and/or how much is ruled by role in the game. BTW: has anyone else noticed how some posts are perfect grammer and spelling and others are almost child-like? Are some of his posts scripted?

10) Yes John, I posted about being two teams of mafia. That's a good tactic for them with 7 players. They could have a three player stealth team and a three player vocal team and one throwaway player (mike?). That gives them a lot of ability to do things that have never been done here at AC.

Ice was mafia last game... but that's no reason to think he's not mafia now. I think he and/or Mad are mafia and have done just what I describe above. It will be very hard to take down these mafia.

11) Swayde seems to be pulling the 'I'm confused' play, without actually saying that she's confused. All the rules questions... ON THE THREAD. She should be asking those to rb by PM. That's a personal preference. I would also suggest reading the rules on the first post.

12) Post #633 jpappy votes for HookedNewbie... soon

13) Post #634 mad calls into question my change to Ice. I believe I answered that questions. Ice's posts have not been consistant within this game (IMO). He also done things that I consider very like last game when he was mafia. He's good and a good player to watch.

OK, I think that's it for what I have to say now. I'm going to dinner and will check in later tonight.

I vote no one at this time. This will change... later.
 

For Mike...


Originally Posted by IceH2O
Good choice Hooked, get the ones that are more likely to point out mafia players lynched so its not so hard to sneak around and lynch the innocents and cause confusion. I applaud your guys plans.

I didn't think I was that much of a threat, there are others I thought better then me at this game, but I think the fact that I had guys that thought me mafia last game get all turned around and thinking I was innocent made you think I am just that **** good.

Lynch me and you get what you want, 1 less innocent to lead the others innocents to victory.


It's early and I was looking for reaction, thanks for giving one that is quite reminiscent of one I received last game. I definitely reserve the right to change my vote since it's early, but I'm not going to yet. If you're "more likely" to point out mafia members, please do so since I suspect that you may know them.




My thoughts so far are that perhaps a "plan" was made to pit two mafia against themselves and that maybe a new player's excitement led to some posts that hurt them. I am suspect of both Ice and Mike, though DP has gotten very quiet. Another note is that there have been many people monitoring the thread everytime I've looked and as far as I can tell, only Swayde has yet to post even though they've been watching for over an hour...


Folks, I do not disagree with the take on Mike at all, but please look at Ice. He has definitely raised my suspicions and would be the more dangerous of the 2 if they are both mafia. If we have 2 of them at this point, we're off to a great start.
CL & Charlie give me pause with their willingness to jump so quickly without posting their reasoning. Coler was a proven innocent last game and seems to be playing innocent this game, but the first day should be filled with suspicion and not following. IMO, the following would be another way for mafia to lay low.




Go to Search this thread and read the posts by user.... Start with me and then read the ones from those on my list. Make up your own mind. You should be doing your own "great analysis" and posting it for the town.
 
Post 652 she says she quits. I think if you say you quit that should be it. Its an unfair ploy if thats what it is.

Post 663 I call her on it, if she reappears she is top of the list.

HNs suspicion of me is that I'm a top player. I'm suspicious of HN for the same reason but nothing has really stood out as mafia. I think me Z and HN need to work together, they can't take out all 3 of us. With 3 people to hit they aren't sure which one the Dr will protect. They will be gunning for us, if in fact I am right about Ogre and Mad.

Problem is HN has me and Z as suspects. Is that because of anything solid or a feeling? Or just that we need watching?
 
Ogre show me where I jumped on the JM train. If anything I was one of the few that said we should wait and that last night was not the night to do it. That if she didn't show by the next nightfall that we should lynch her. Hardly train jumping IMO.
 
Ice, how come Hooked has you and Z as suspects and doesn't get but a simple question? I list you two as suspects and you both think I'm mafia?

What's up with that.

BTW: I have seen the list of votes and realized that you never voted for JMax. Sorry. I was mistaken.
 
I've heard everyones reasons for not voting but Swayde's.

KOTD: No good suspect
HN: Forgot and had company
JM: Didn't know game had started.

What ya got Swayde, all the good ones are taken :D


I was not very confident in any one person being Mafia or Innocent. I did not want to make a mistake and pick an Innocent accidently so I chose to vote for no-one until I got a stronger suspect. Which I do now, and that person is Madcrawdad and I do wish I'd voted for him for day 1, but since I can't change the past, I have put my vote on him for day 2.

You will see that I chose JohnLarson66 originally because he'd maliciously (or so I thought) targetted me. Upon further review I realized it was just his nature to be suspicious of new, eccentric (roleplayers) people.

Then I decided to vote for Judge, because I felt the reasoning behind voting her out to reduce the risk of losing Innocents was a good strategy, once the rule was clarified, I withdrew that vote.
 
HN

You're basing everything on that 1 post?

I too was looking for a response, it was early in the game.

I asked for an investigation on me before I realized the rules had been amended

Had I paid attention and seen we had no mayor and that the Don appeared as an innocent I never would have made a post like that.

Don't you think I'd know better then that? If not then take me off your list of Top players. That was a terrible play,if I knew the amended rules, IMO.
 
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