Mafia #6.....The Play

[Madcrawdad]

Alright listen up townies, vigilante, and detective. I think there is light at the end of this tunnel.

Did some hard thinking last night. Thanks to RB, we have clues to go by. If you believe his clues, believe me.

1st snitches list: I still say Mad, mee-mee, and I are innocent and King is Mafia. I'll agree with the Mad part, and feel okay about mee-mee for now (She really dove for the bushes when I put together a case against her...I was able to put the strongest case together for her, and if mafia would have expected a little more fight). With that said, I'm still up in the air on you and King. From the snitch list, both you and mee-mee pointed at King, and King pointed at Madcrawdad...Could King be mafia? The case I built for him was the weakest, but he's the one pointed at me. Don't know, lots of other folks have pointed at me, too.

I will agree with you, that you appear to be helping the town more than King has.

2nd list: I still say BKW and Sploke are innocent and Jensons is Mafia. A little torn on this one, too. BKW probably only has a few more posts than Jensons at this time. An interesting thing about Jensons, IMO, is that I made a comment about her lack of posts yesterday and she got pretty defensive. Claims the reason that she wasn't posting is that when she posts more often, Coler, Mad, or Ogre accuse her of being mafia? Brandy's been a very consistently low poster from game to game (even when innocent) which IMO makes her lethal as mafia, as we won't have much to go on. I wouldn't be surpised at all to find out that she's mafia.

I'm on to them and that's why they put me in the 3rd list to undermine my credibility. But go back and read my posts and see if I'm not trying to be a helpful townie.

3rd list: Look closely at the clues. KOTD and Jensons look Mafiaish to me while Sploke and I look like we're trying to do something. Perhaps save the town?

So in my opinion we have two very good Mafia candidates: Jensons and KOTD. We should discuss who to lynch and who to hopefully have the
Vigilante take out tonight. Please believe me Vig. Neither Jensons nor KOTD have posted very much nor helped with the looking for Mafia.

Furthermore, there is strength in numbers. I would like the cooperation of all townies and I'm confident I know at least a few: Mad, mee-mee, BKW, Sploke, and Ogre. I think Swade is too.

So what do you say TOWNIES. Is it time to kick some Mafia butt????

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[plantling]

The detective should not reveal themself this early, especialy without a mayor. but advice to the detective. The four ppl that the snitch named plus the 2 you already investigated gives u a total of 6 ppl ...in just 2 nights, plus 4 dying in 1 night. thats 10 ppl off ur back right there.

Looking at the dynamics of the snitch seems to make them out to be a more passive mayor. the information that they provide is not as accurate as the mayor but it is faster and comes in bulk. Bish that was a pretty smart switch out to balance the game. You have more mafia, but u have a character who releases more info........True game master.

Here's BKW making positive comments on the snitch. I would think Mafia wouldn't care too much for the snitch.

 

[plantling]

*sigh* I suppose it will take some time for anyone to digest the info I'm offering, but please consider it.

And Mad, I've insisted I thought you were innocent ever since RB's narration of the 1st snitches list came out. Since I'm innocent, I believed mee-mee to be also as we were narrated together. And that only left KOTD.

 

[Madcrawdad]

Hey Z, been working thru some stuff in my head, and just wanted to ask you a question regarding your JudgeMax votes.

Here's your first vote for JudgeMax

Oh what the hey, lots of time left in the Day.

I vote to lynch Judgemax.

She is the only player that hasn't posted yet and if she doesn't vote she will befall a Mysterious Death. If she is Mafia, good, if she is a Townie we could lose two or three Townies tonight depending on how we vote. By voting JM out we negate one needless Innocent death. If she shows up I will revoke this vote.

Jensons comes out against your plan....

How does voting for judge help the town? If too many people jump on that train, then go to bed, then she posts, we may lose a valuable townie. I am hesitant to throw in for mike, he seems to just be a real, real big newb. Maybe he's just read one to many crime novels. But, i dunno. I'm not feeling much of a case for Swayde or DP either, but my feelings proved to be pretty useless last game. I'm holding off voting until later tonight. ~brandy

I come out against your plan....

This whole let's vote for JudgeMax to get her to post seems pretty goofy to me. Not saying if she's mafia or not, but chances are that she's innocent. I would assume that she would post if able. The fact that she has some votes against her is unlikely to make her post any sooner. IMO voting to lynch Judge at this point only distracts from the task at hand.

Ogre all but calls you mafia for your plan....

Guys, let's consider a few things...

3) The reasoning for lynching JMax is crap. It doesn't matter if it's day one or not. It doesn't matter if the rules are that she will die the first night or not. If she hasn't posted in time to stay alive in the game, then she isn't mafia.

I consider anyone voting for her on that train to be mafia. I really think that the mafia came up with this plan to stop Mike from being lynched. Pick on someone like JMax who is almost as annoying as Mike (no offense, I love you JMax), that's the only person who would have a chance of being lynched with exactly zero evidence.

These five are my top five (not in any particular order):
zsand
swayde
coler
sploke
miken

Next day you give your mafia list, and your number 1 reason for including me is for my post against the JudgeMax vote...

MikenDanielle[/B]: Winner of the Corey Lover Newbie Slip Up Award. Dug a hole deep enough to bury a Buick yesterday, today pretty quiet, probably counting his stars the Doctor likes him.

2) MadCrawdad: Got defensive of the JM plan but in a strange way, different from the way other disagreers stated their case. Also, Coler's #1 pick.

3) bkw... KIDDING, watch this be the round he IS Mafia though, lol

I think there were also a couple others against the plan to vote for Judge that I didn't post. What seems more 'strange' about my defense of Judge that would have made this the main reason for you naming me (particularly at a time when the whole town was jumping on my back for other reasons)?

Definitely not saying your mafia, just wanted to have this clarified.

Thanks.

 

[plantling]

I would agree with DP except for one thing. Aside from his lack of participation, he's not really much of a threat or a help. If he is innocent, we lose another one. If he's mafia, great but I feel there are more likely choices. I agree, if you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem, but I don't know that we gain too much regardless of the result. Its not like we're left with a ton of posts to go back and scour for clues...

Here's a post where Sploke encourages not voting for DP. (Wish I had paid attention.) He also speaks of scouring for clues, which I don't think Mafia are too concerned about.

OK, I'm done making my case for now. Please feel free to comment or ask questions. I'm not super sure Swayde is innocent, but with so many pple gunning for her, I'm thinking the game will be over once nightfalls. I think there are better options at this point.

 

[FireDancer7905]

dinner party last night, water skiing today. i'l catahc up later, but i'm thinking z is going to be my vote tonight...

 

[joander123]

this is ridiculous. The mafia are laying low and acting our friends. Im going to stay with my original hunch.

I vote to lynch zsandman.

you guys have to realize, that people are pretending to be helpful and really not. That hole JM thing was a dumb mafia plot started by Z. My vote is firmly in place for zsandman, and i hope swayde as well as others will come over and help us lynch a real mafia power player.

 

[ZSandmann]

Hey Z, been working thru some stuff in my head, and just wanted to ask you a question regarding your JudgeMax votes.

Here's your first vote for JudgeMax


Jensons comes out against your plan....


I come out against your plan....

Ogre all but calls you mafia for your plan....

Next day you give your mafia list, and your number 1 reason for including me is for my post against the JudgeMax vote...


I think there were also a couple others against the plan to vote for Judge that I didn't post. What seems more 'strange' about my defense of Judge that would have made this the main reason for you naming me (particularly at a time when the whole town was jumping on my back for other reasons)?

Definitely not saying your mafia, just wanted to have this clarified.

Thanks.

Mad it was more for the tone of your rebuttal than the action itself. You seemed in my mind at the time to be the most vocal opponent, but in hindsight I've concluded you just didn't get the plan. Sorry I wasn't more help last night folks. I hope we can get something together or else we will be sunk.

dinner party last night, water skiing today. i'l catahc up later, but i'm thinking z is going to be my vote tonight...

Eh, what? Why?

 

[ZSandmann]

this is ridiculous. The mafia are laying low and acting our friends. Im going to stay with my original hunch.

I vote to lynch zsandman.

you guys have to realize, that people are pretending to be helpful and really not. That hole JM thing was a dumb mafia plot started by Z. My vote is firmly in place for zsandman, and i hope swayde as well as others will come over and help us lynch a real mafia power player.

Oh boy you're either Mafia or you are going to be so sorry.

I hope the Townies that remain are watching what's going on here. I offered up my game life if we could unite and lynch Swayde, but once again we got bamboozled and now the lynch train is gearing up against me.

 

[plantling]

Z is also on my Mafia list. He told us not to read too much into RB's clues and said RB would not be partial like that. Also, he and JPappy who I also suspect as Mafia were the deciding votes to lynch Ice. And Z and KOTD seem to want Swayde gone real bad, so I'm beginning to think she's really innocent. I'm not as sure about Z as I am about KOTD, though.