Mafia 66: Farmers versus the Railroad - the play

Dangerdoll said:
I don't dispute your reason for voting for Coler but I find it interesting how you now intertwine the fact that you voted for him and the interactions of him and whoever else into one post.... that's just me thinking out loud though.

You were trying to see the "interactions"... are you saying this is not looking for a "reaction"... really?

From day 1, it is nearly impossible to judge who is mafia and who isn't... there can be lots to be found in everyone's posts that make them "seem" guilty... I just don't think the whole point of Noods posting early and her being defensive because people were voting on her and ripping her posts apart as her being mafia... in my opinion, it is weak and reaching... and as far as anyone else being involved, namely Coler, makes less sense to me as guilt because defending just doesn't hold any weight, as there is no weight to be had with Noods in the first place.
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Finally, another reasonable voice...
 
Dangerdoll said:
I don't dispute your reason for voting for Coler but I find it interesting how you now intertwine the fact that you voted for him and the interactions of him and whoever else into one post.... that's just me thinking out loud though.

You were trying to see the "interactions"... are you saying this is not looking for a "reaction"... really?
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You want me to make more posts when I can explain it in one? That doesn't make sense. And I think I've explained my thought process about as thoroughly as possible. Nothing has made me change my mind on who I'm voting for at the moment.

I guess what you're not understanding is the difference between what I consider interactions and reactions. Reactions are a type of interaction, but not what I was wanting to look for. I wanted to look for something more subtle. I don't know how to explain it any differently.
 
Lab_Rat said:
Let me break it down for you how I came to the conclusion I came to.

1.) Initially makes sense but Kash's actions and her further clarification of why she posted what she posted makes this less plausible.

2.) Too much has been made out of this by both parties to be distancing.

3.) Not likely because scum tend to let innocents make the cases, then they twist what the innocents have said to suit them. I HIGHLY doubt experienced scum would drive as hard of a case as Kash has this early in the game. Easier to let two innocents take each other out and sit back and laugh. To me, Kash pushing as hard as she has makes me think she is the more likely of the two to be innocent.

4.) Normally this is what I would go with as happening this early in the game. Not this time, not the way Coler responded, jumping quickly to Noods' defense. Noods is scummy, I will gladly vote for her.

5.) This just makes the most sense when you step back and look at the interactions between the two and the knee jerk reaction of Coler. Why doesn't this theory make sense? We don't know how many immigrants there are. We don't know how many scum there are. There could be 3-4 immigrants which wouldn't make the odds of Kash being one of them that low. How else could she be so sure Noods is scum?

So you're telling me, you can't rule out any of those 5 theories? Because I didn't have much of a problem doing so.
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1) Weird how you are more inclined to believe Kash is an IW rather than just an innocent when that's really based on nothing but Kash's word about how sure she is of Noods.

2) I agree, this is least likely IMO.

3) Kash is not normally a low poster who sits back and I believe that is what got her into trouble last game in particular. I think assuming that mafia are not going to be aggressive is dangerous and foolish.

4) I am starting to have problems when people say Coler defended Noodles. His first post asks a legitimate question, although I've already said the vote was rather rushed. His second post is questioning Kash's comparison to the past game. I think that you and Kash are beginning to over-exaggerate how Coler reacted to the situation.

5) Again, your certainty about 3 people's roles (yes, 3) so early is not reassuring.
 
Lab_Rat said:
Jpap, the reason I'm not voting Noods and I'm voting Coler is I want to see the interactions between Noods and her other teammates. See if they defend her or cut her loose. From Coler's reaction, I'd be willing to bet they're teammates. From Noods' reaction, I'm willing to bet she's scum. I'm quite comfortable with my vote on Coler at this point.

I know you pointed out Kash's inconsistencies, but I'm not getting a scummy feeling from her. What she posted goes along with my immigrant worker theory.

I also don't like the early train that has formed...iirc, that's 4 votes on Kash right now. 2 on Coler. 1 on OD.
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Do you really think you will see interactions if your theory is true? If Noods is evil and is caught (according to your theory) the scum would leave her for dead IMO. If you are so sure about your theory you should be voting Noods and look at Coler.

Lab_Rat said:
You could call us teammates but you would be wrong...at least in the sense that we are not communicating outside of the thread. At this point she may be a fellow teammate in the sense that I think she is trying to find railroad scum, as am I.

Do you think she would push a case so hard and so early in the game if she were scum? That just doesn't make sense to me. Usually it's the innocents who push the cases in the beginning. Scum sit back and laugh...
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Isn't that the same theory you used to call me scum. Except it was the other way around. You thought I was scum for pushing so hard on FF. Why is your theory changing this game. I agree with DD that a lot should come from how the votes go down tonight since the lines are already drawn in the sand. To me it makes more sense for Kash or Noods to go tonight in order to gain the most info so...

I vote to lynch Kash

for reasons previously stated and because out of the 2 (Noods/Kash) I see Kash as more scummy. If Kash turns up as the immigrant worker than Noods goes tomorrow.
 
Kashta said:
I wondered where you were, Pappy. You're usually a late-night poster in these games.

I mainly voted Noods to gauge the reactions I'd get. In your case, I could get all twisty about this and wonder if you're trying to defend her. But I believe you'd question whatever went on today the same way regardless of your role this game.

Coler, on the other hand, seems to have given credence to the vote I placed on Noods. So that's why I went through those posts again tonight, since I had some free time right now. I don't expect I'll be a heavy poster this game because I still have a lot going on.

As for you not "remembering" this happening that previous game... yes, you were in it. So was DD, JB, Coler, and Dawg. I am interested in Noods' reaction here and I'm particularly interested in who decides to step up on her behalf. Aside from this, I don't see anything else today worth really talking about.... unless we knew that FF knew the game had started and he's not posting at all for some reason. But I think it's equally plausible that he's not posting because he doesn't know this thread exists yet.
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Okay Labby... you quoted this post by kash before (post 61) and even bolded the part i bolded here. Though you seem to overlook the fact that this does not fit in (at all, in any way, even a little) with assuming that Kash KNOWS Noods' role. I can understand Kash using your scenario to try to lure out defenders, but why would she care at all about Noods' reaction? Oh, right... she wouldn't. :silly:

This is for you, Labby: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
 
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