Mafia #67 - 50/50 -- The Play

[AnniesNotOK]

I vote to lynch Lab_Rat.

Being the third vote on FF just seems to easy of a place to hide. Plus she is trying to make sense out of what FF posts. Also FF did not get OMGUSy on Lab, FF voted on Lab before Lab voted. Dag voted for FF and so did DD, but FF did not get all freaked out.

Who knows what FF is? Can anyone really tell by how he is playing? Is a team really going to investigate him or hit him? FF is once again the center of attention. Trying to make sense out of FF or building a case against FF is a joke.

Hmmmm....being the 3rd vote has had a history of being the scummy one, however I find it alarming you have mentioned it, especially so early in the game.

I don't see any easy places to hide on the FF train. If he is innocent, he has made statements that are certainly contradictory to his actual role. If he is scumbag, I will trust noone that voted for him either, as his posts are almost all so slime covered that even the communicating scumbags must realize they will have to vote for him or risk exposing themselves. Some of them may have already .

jpap, I think FF played very well last game and played very differently than he is playing now. In that game he was on the communicating evil team. I do not think FF is on a communicating team. I also don't think a communicating team will investigate him.

I think he is playing like the FF of old, now does that mean he is non-communicating mafia? Hard to say, he is playing just like he has when he has been non-communicating mafia and innocent.

Very non committal, but overall you are implying FF is not a good lynch candidate because he always posts scummy things, even when he was innocent. Is this a fair assessment of this post?

"sure seems tempting" went to a vote in the same post. I would expect FF to play a little more conservative if he had a scum role. You really think his posts make him look nervous?

Turning up the heat a little here. You state you would expect FF to play conservatively if he had a scum role? Is this your basis for your seemingly increasing defence of FF? Because he isn't playing conservatively?

Lab, do you think FF is playing the same way he did last game?

So far, you have tried to talk Jpap and Lab out of voting for FF. Correct me if this is a misrepresentation of your posts.

Last game I really never saw FF getting lots of attention, Kash vs noods took over most of the attention.

He got some attention. At first I paid no attention to the crazy things he was posting. In the end we (Coler, Wiz and I) decided Dag was the best candidate for the lynch, based on the fact that we believed Dags early attack on FF was a scumbag looking for an easy target, which FF often makes of himself. In the end, I believed FF was just a crazy townie that had made some scummy posts and Dag was an opportunistic scumbag trying to exploit him.

He has my full attention now, and so does anyone trying to rationalize not voting for him at this point.

..., just vote for me.

Care to name a suspect list?

What do you think of JB's and JL's posts so far in relation to you? I think they are both scumbags, but that of course dependent upon you being a scumbag.

My vote isnt set in stone FF. If you find a better suspect, and build a case, I could be swayed. But the fact is its D1, there is an abscence of good information and you are the best (and only) option on the table I can see. If you are innocent, you better find me a better option. Good luck with that.

That being said I'm tempted to move my vote to one of the non existent players, like Noods or Rich for example. Maybe they only post when they see their names in bold? Seems a little unfair not to consider them for a lynchin' just because they haven't said diddly as of yet dontcha think?

FF maybe you should kick one of their doors in. They seem pretty scummy for having said nothing at all.

 

[jpappy789]

You just took out one of their team mates,why wouldn't they investigate you?

If they do they either find a team mate, find a nonCI or a CI. So they either gain a team mate or have some type of way to link you to others. Then they can just try to have a case built against you,see if anyone protects you then take their hits.

Earlier I said its a team building game and not a tear down game. While the main goal is to outnumber the other team if you were able to take down communicating members of the other team you'd have a better chance of winning.

Why would they target someone who took out another mafia member over anyone else?

 

[johnlarson66]

Here Lab replies to FF about Mass posting -

Mass posting? That would only serve to confuse and does not seem pro-town there FF. Was that a signal to the communicating scum from you?

And woo hoo, game on!

(was this Lab's first post? I am not sure, but it could be)

FF replies to Lab and explains himself.

Two things:
1) Its spring break got nothing else to do and was jokeing (sort of)
2) What makes you so sure im not on a communicating team? Only a member of a communicating team would know im not on it and even then i may be the SB (i wish) or a townie guy. AND if you are mafia feel free to invest me, then we can see how many people vote for me and when, cause i am not mafia (i wish i was thought, they have the most fun).

So this is what started it all.

 

[IceH2O]

Why would they target someone who took out another mafia member over anyone else?

I think the post you quoted explains it.

You guys act like everything said is 100% fact. Its a thought thats possible. Isn't that what we're supposed to do, put out possibilities? Would you rather we all just vote and sit back and say nothing?

These games are getting to be damned if you do damned if you don't. The only thing that saves anyone is just placing a vote then running off to hide.

 

[johnlarson66]

Agreed, but we're dealing with FF here. He specifically asked the mafia to investigate him at first...I'm not going to assume he thought it through that both teams would.

And even if he did think that both teams would, and that the opposing team would then hit him, his whole reasoning behind why he wanted to be investigated is void. He would be hit, not lynched.

He specifically asked Lab, if they were mafia to investigate him.

 

[jpappy789]

I think the post you quoted explains it.

You guys act like everything said is 100% fact. Its a thought thats possible. Isn't that what we're supposed to do, put out possibilities? Would you rather we all just vote and sit back and say nothing?

These games are getting to be damned if you do damned if you don't. The only thing that saves anyone is just placing a vote then running off to hide.

No, actually your post explains why the mafia could choose ANYONE to investigate first.

"If they do they either find a team mate, find a nonCI or a CI. So they either gain a team mate or have some type of way to link you to others. Then they can just try to have a case built against you,see if anyone protects you then take their hits."

That above applies to everyone in the game with a chance of being investigated by the mafia.

I'm specifically wondering why they would choose Lab first after outing FF, they're teammate.

He specifically asked Lab, if they were mafia to investigate him.

FF says differently.

 

[johnlarson66]

Annie, so last game you let "crazy FF" slide by and this game you are not going to be fooled again? I think that is Dag's reason.

So is FF playing the same as last game? Different?

I think FF played very different last game. I really doubt he is part of a communicating team. I think FF has found himself in a battle of wits unarmed.

 

[johnlarson66]

No, actually your post explains why the mafia could choose ANYONE to investigate first.

"If they do they either find a team mate, find a nonCI or a CI. So they either gain a team mate or have some type of way to link you to others. Then they can just try to have a case built against you,see if anyone protects you then take their hits."

That above applies to everyone in the game with a chance of being investigated by the mafia.

I'm specifically wondering why they would choose Lab first after outing FF, they're teammate.



FF says differently.

jpap, I quoted the post.

 

[jpappy789]

And I'll quote this post, JL...

OMG! You guys thought i was referring only to lab?! And that at the time i thought LAB was mafia?! I was just stating that if the mafia team invests me they will vote for me and you can use that as a way to find the mafia. This is just a big misunderstanding. And at the time i didnt think lab was mafia, that has since changed.

 

[jpappy789]

Annie, so last game you let "crazy FF" slide by and this game you are not going to be fooled again? I think that is Dag's reason.

So is FF playing the same as last game? Different?

I think FF played very different last game. I really doubt he is part of a communicating team. I think FF has found himself in a battle of wits unarmed.

I believe I've already asked how FF is playing any differently. Last game we got caught up in the Noods-Kash fiasco, and FF was largely ignored. That does not, however, mean he played differently.