Mafia #67 - 50/50 -- The Play

Mad if I thought FF was definitely scum why didn't I vote there? Of course I couldn't rule out he was scum. Only way I could do that was if we were both CI. I voted Lab because I thought there was a better chance she was scum.

Anyone can read the last day before night fall and realize this, so guys if you want to come to your own conclusion read all my posts not just handpicked ones by Mad.
 
AnniesNotOK said:
At this point I would disagree with what you've said about Mad not kicking any bushes. Seems to me his logic so far has been sound. Do you have a case you'd like me to read on Mad? Post it, I'll read it and decide if I agree or disagree.



I didnt question any of them Jpap. You're right. I was convinced FF was scum, and I decided to observe the chaos rather than add more. Nothing, and I mean nothing FF posted until nightfall changed my mind in that regard. However, I thought it would be prudent to confirm FF's role before I went kicking JL's door, or JB's, or anyone else defending him.

If you think I'm an opportunistic scumbag, then vote for me.



I don't care if you think I'm innocent or not.

And if you call that a hefty dose of compliments, I'd read it again. It was one compliment. Maybe for you thats a hefty dose. I've never seen you but its apparent I was probably being generous when I said you were pretty if thats how you'd define a hefty dose.. I won't employ such tactics with you in the future there toots.

And the "when I show innocent" routine is getting old. I may change my mind about your innocence before I'm even finished typing this post.



Yeah, me too.



Pay attention to this scumbag. I vote to lynch JB.

Pocket mafia that genius.



My take on the SB.

If I were the SB, I'd tell you, right now in this very post, that I was the SB and blow half this godforsaken town to hell that's what.
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LOL


As for a case against Mad, I don't really have one. It was an opinion I have. I don't really see where he had done much. If you'd like to show me all the bush kicking I'd be more then glad to read it.

Better yet there are only 26 posts I'll pull the bush kickers.

Okay I'll retract my non bush kicking statement. I see he was mostly asking FF and Tank questions but threw a couple in at me Kash and JB.
 
AnniesNotOK said:
I don't care if you think I'm innocent or not.

And if you call that a hefty dose of compliments, I'd read it again. It was one compliment. Maybe for you thats a hefty dose. I've never seen you but its apparent I was probably being generous when I said you were pretty if thats how you'd define a hefty dose.. I won't employ such tactics with you in the future there toots.

And the "when I show innocent" routine is getting old. I may change my mind about your innocence before I'm even finished typing this post.
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My feelings are crushed, completely and utterly. How ever will I go on with life? :rolleyes: Oh yeah, that's right, I'm thinking you are scummy. Now I don't like the fact that your suspect list is similar to mine, don't like that one bit. Did you just copy my suspects to try and align yourself with me? And the whole picking on the fact that I use the term "when I show innocent", that's been done before in this thread too. That's nothing original there Annie. But your reaction to what I posted was way off base, that's some original content. Seriously, the whole guilt trip thing, then couple it with a compliment (yeah, hefty may have been an exaggeration), that's not something a townie feels the need to do.

:chillpill:

I think this town needs some freaking Prozac dumped in the water...
 
IceH2O said:
Mad if I thought FF was definitely scum why didn't I vote there? Of course I couldn't rule out he was scum. Only way I could do that was if we were both CI. I voted Lab because I thought there was a better chance she was scum.

Anyone can read the last day before night fall and realize this, so guys if you want to come to your own conclusion read all my posts not just handpicked ones by Mad.
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Because you're scum. Apparently you claim to to have been able to rule FF out as scum in this post from earlier tonight....

Here again on D2 you claim that once you fingered Lab, that you cleared FF at the same time... Note the statement "At that time I figured Lab was mafia and assumed FF was innocent." Let's see if it jives with your statement from D1 (below) when your Lab vote actually occurred
IceH2O said:
Since I'm one of the people who thought FF was innocent I'm going to answer this.

I thought it was pretty obvious,well as obvious as FF can be. He started posting things that didn't set right with me thus my vote.It didn't really strike me till later in the day when I went back to reread that I saw Lab had bolded just 1 part of a sentence and took it out of context. This is a scum tactic to draw the eye to the negativity of the post instead of to the entire context of the post. At that time I figured Lab was mafia and assumed FF was innocent. Did I know for sure? Not in the least but the more Lab went after him the more I thought it was a better chance that Lab was scummy and I wasn't going to vote with her.

To the last question I don't understand it. If I'm mafia and thought FF was a lost cause why would I vote Lab and not him. If a lost cause I'd just pile on and hide with the masses.
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I guess I'm having a hard time seeing where you peeled off of FF as scum there, as you specifically say things like "(I'm) still not saying FF is innocent," and "It's possible Lab is also a non-com mafia" (implying along with FF).
IceH2O said:

I retract my vote on FF and vote to lynch Lab


I have a problem with the way Lab took something FF wrote and only bolded a part of it. It takes away from the concept of the post. Most of her case is pretty much based on the fact of him asking the mafia team to invest him and from there its just snowballed.

Lab why did you only bold the part where he asks the mafia to invest him but leave out his reasoning right after it? It seems to me that was the more important part of the post. By doing that you altered the meaning and make the eyes focus on the negative part instead of the entire sentence.

Still not saying FF is innocent mind you just hate to see a 1 horse race. Its possible Lab is also a non comm mafia doing her best to look innocent and if they both are mafia its a no lose situation.
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Is it just me, or is there a HUGE disparity between your recollection of the events, and how they actually happened? It looks more like you NEVER cleared FF, until he flipped town and it was of benefit for you to do so (or at least say you did so).

I like the hand-picked quotes reference, though. You said 'em, I just found 'em...
 
:omg: I need more:popcorn:
 
IceH2O said:
I think I've explained why the SB isn't evil. Would you explain why he is?
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i just simply stated that the SB isn't innocent, therefore having the SB around does not benefit the innocent any more then it benefits the mafia. I never said the SB was evil. I am kind of amazed that you would try and twist such a small and minor comment.
 
IceH2O said:
Thanks Dag, I mean Jpap. Why the defense?

Not innocent still doesn't mean should be voted out, SB is still a possible help to the innocent team.


What is your take on the SB? What is everyones take on the SB?
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The SB in this game is a survivor/woodcutter hybrid. Any time you have a survivor role, it ain't good for the town. The survivor plays the game only to get to the end and join the winning team.

They're playing for themselves only, and will be opportunistic (or should be) to win. This makes them an unreliable ally for either side really... The fact that they also have the power to kill other players upon their death isn't a plus, either. Too upredictable, uncontrollable, and unreliable.

That said, I don't see a really safe way for either team to eliminate the SB or try to use the role to their advantage. Folks will just have to close their eyes when voting and hope for the best if they're the last couple on...
 
the wizard said:


Let me refresh your memory











I find it interesting that what got me started with the post you are responding to was you saying that you didn't like the train on LR. I started by asking if you liked the train on FF and you still haven't answered my question even though you respond to the post I asked it in.





I answered this when LR responded to it. (that is who I posted it for) This shows another example of you defending LR.

If LR isn't scum, why does she need defending?
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So you're saying that you don't believe that my first post in this game was a joking revenge post because so much had happened when i posted that right? wait that's right it was right at the beginning and the only thing that had been said was did anyone feel like posting before the game on.... a very serious vote. My god i might as well have been holding a gun to his head and pulling the trigger.

Why did you highlight I <---- thought he was scum after asking for LR to investigate him? Yes that is what i thought. No one who is innocent should want to chance the mafia investigating them. I stand by that. Still. As to your question about the train on FF yes I thought it was a good thing. In my mind I was convinced that FF had let slip he was mafia. If anyone else had asked to be investigated by the mafia what would you have said?

You ask why if LR isn't scum does she need defending? There are scum out there who will take advantage of the situation to get a person who is most of the time correct in her assumptions about what is going on in the game. Also i am not intentionally defending LR, she and I usually process information in the same manner therefore we come to similar conclusions. To go balls to the walls to get someone lynched is NOT a mafia tactic. Every mafia game that I have played in the mafia have stuck to the same strategy, post occasionally, throw a weak theory out there, agree with someone who is willing to make ways, let them take the heat, change vote if it's up between two innocents, ask person who lead the charge on someone why they couldn't recognize they were innocent when you did.

It has happened every time.
 
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