Mafia #69: Ghost Hunters Game Thread

[the wizard]

Going through the vote counts from yesterday and today, Annie, Ice and Noods were on LR both days.

In light of that fact I tend to lean them more innocent for now.

 

[johnlarson66]

annies first lone vote on lab could have been for distancing.

I am sure it was too late for annie to come off of Lab on day 2.

 

[Zaffy]

Ghost FF.. still cant shut up.

I'm subscribed to the thread, my e-mail account is going to explode.

 

[Lady G]

No more from me I promise...but I couldn't resist....

Zombie Kashta...... is never far away.

Ghost FF.. still cant shut up.

 

[jbradt]

Zombie Kashta...... is never far away.

lol

 

[the wizard]

annies first lone vote on lab could have been for distancing.

I am sure it was too late for annie to come off of Lab on day 2.

That is true, LR did a pretty good job of digging her own grave

 

[IceH2O]

Here is Mads list.

As promised, here's my thoughts on the players that I find most interesting at this point.

CCM - IMO Cavie seems to be trying to blend in. When I asked him to expand on why JL was 'raising his eyebrow' on D1 he came on and off the thread a couple of times without answering. Once I voted for him, though, he responded within a matter of minutes. Maybe a coincidence, but definitely interesting.

Also the disparity between what he said about JL and FF... (JL being scummy for poking at FF), but then voting for FF. Ultimately he removed his vote from FF late, to vote for JL. That was odd, though, as with bandwagons on his three suspects, he chose to move his vote late to where it wouldn't make a difference...where he wouldn't be responsible for lynching anybody.

Not seeing anything on D2 that makes me change my perception of him.


Lab - A couple of inconsistencies in her posts. Could be possible scum slips. The more I think about it, one of the things that bothers me is I think that Lab is a better player than to really make these slips as scum. It's possible that she's flustered, as I've seen her get that way before. Need to watch further.


Wiz - Wiz's play has been bothering me. The whole business with hammering away that JL has not been answering Kash's/Wiz's questions is odd. When pressed on this, Wiz then admitted that he really didn't expect an answer to his own question (yet he mentioned it multiple times to make JL appear scummy), and then couldn't even find a good example of Kash's questions that went unanswered. So what was all the jumping up and down about, if not just to throw scum onto another player?

It's also interesting that, late on D1, Wiz completely jumped on board with Kash's arguments against JL, and come N1 Kash ends up NKed. He then says how he could see certain players being responsible for her death. Thing is, I could see Wiz being responsible for Kash's hit... Scum cozying up to soon-to-be-dead townies is a strategy that's been seen before. Scum buddies up with townie, and when the townie flips, scum hopes for instant 'townie cred.' Maybe, maybe not.


Annie - Annie's lurking bothers me. The thing is, that I can't really believe 100% that he's got lots going on outside the game. Twice I've seen him in previous chats saying that his strategy would be to lay low and make up excuses as to why he's not posting.

It also bothers me that in his one post from the day before yesterday, Annie listed JL as a suspect because he agreed with what Wiz had been saying. IMO Wiz had simply been agreeing with what Kashta had been saying about JL. So Wiz was yelling loudly that JL was scum, but all of his reasoning was 'what she said'... So was Annie agreeing with Wiz that he should be agreeing with Kashta? Odd.

The fact that Annie never answered my question regarding what he agreed with Wiz about doesn't help him either.


Bio
JRR
Dawg
ILM
None of these guys are really diving in much, which doesn't help.

JRR and Dawg are experienced players, so they should understand that their participation would be helpful to the town. Could be a problem.

Bio looks like they may be trying, but seems a little caught up with post counts and pointing out where she(?) falls with regard to post counts. Odd.

ILM - WTH? This guy/gal makes Agissizzii and Texasguy seem like Grins when it comes to number/quality of posts.


I still want to think a little before throwing a vote, but I'm probably leaning either Wiz, CCM or Annie.

Labby, I am pretty busy going through my notes and evaluating my suspect list.

In light of your RL happenings the past 2 days, I opened the monopoly game and withdrew a get out of jail free card for you on this one.

Wiz gives lab a free pass.

Still working on my suspect list but at this point it is difficult without knowing exactly how many scum there are.

That said, it seems that usually we have 4 or 5.

Going conservative for my numbers I am going to go with 4 as a base figure for my list.

I am considering the comments about ILM and I have to say, The last game we played with ILM, his posting habit was identical to this game.

I seem to remember him being scum.

So I will, for the time being drop Bio from my most suspect list to make room for ILM.

Gives Bio a pass

WOW have a busy night and you miss a lot.

Here is a current list of living players:

AnniesNotOk
Biohazard
captaincaveman9
DangerDoll
dirtydawg10
I Love Mollies
IceH2O
J double R
Johnlarson66
Lab_rat
Lady G
Madcrawdad
[AC] Maelstrom
Noodles62
Rich311k
the wizard

Of that list I suspect JL, Ice, JRR, and ILM the most. I am very leery of Annie too.

I did flip flop my first vote to JL from FF, and I still stand by that. His original posts and then backing off is still suspicious to me.

The lack of posts and feedback as to why they are voting a certain way is disturbing for the remaining people on my list so far.

I removed Bio from my considerations, because a lot of times she seems more confused in her postings, or trying to lighten the mood.

just my quick random thoughts before I head off to work. I will be home in time to read the thread tonight and have time to change my vote if someone can convince me to change it. But as it stands I still feel my vote is on the correct person.....

another giving Bio a pass

Well, I am starting to realize that I almost need a notebook to keep track of all this stuff....
But, I am leaning towards ILM, Lady and Wiz as scum.
ILM due to his not being here. Seems like someone is telling to him keep quiet.
Lady because she seems to agree with Wiz too much.
Wiz because I feel like he is asking a lot of questions, but not really getting anywhere.

ILM and LG innocents. Did vote Wiz, distancing since it was a safe vote?

May I ask what are your thoughts on JRR Rich CCM Dawg JL? I'd also like your opinion on Labs post 507 where she possibly slipped and named me innocent. Was it a slip IYO or a rushed post? Just mistyped thought?

I asked a couple of questions.

I dunno,just seemed like a hastily typed post to me, IMO.

Got an answer to 1.

Bio you mind answering the other question which i bolded for you?



All in all I do think Wiz is more likely evil then I thought previously. Not sure it clears JL but as much as he went after JL I have to lower him on the list.

 

[IceH2O]

If it makes no sense then it is FF!

j/k

LOL


We all have our suspects. Do you guys think if we ask the receiver of the message to come out we could tell if they are truthful or if they are scum trying to look innocent? It gives the evils a hit target but could give us valuable info.

 

[[AC] maelstrom]

got one but lost 3 more...not good especially the psychic. looks like the prime evil didnt use the hit N1 after all...musta been just worded weirdly.

Do you think she has learned that she needs to be quiet when she is digging a hole for herself?

apparently, but Im not familiar with Labs normal play

Annies been on Lab both nights. 1st on Day 1 and didn't move to save her and 3rd on Day 2. Don't know they'd be so brash but its possible that he thought it was a safe vote on Day 1 and figured she wasn't going to get out of being lynched today.

I saw that too but it was so early and he (?) wasnt around at all for night so Im thinking it was distancing.

so I guess someone got a random investigation, or am I misinterpreting this random event?

I vote to lynch bio

for now. Still have Jrr and Annie up there as well.

I'm leaning ice more to innocent...I just dont see the interaction between him and lab to be distancing. Pretty much everyone else is still up in the air.

Ice just made an interesting case for wiz and mad had him as a suspect too. Unlikely that a scum was investigated but he def deserves more attention now since i tried to ignore the dispute with Jl...

 

[the wizard]

Here is Mads list.





Wiz gives lab a free pass.



Gives Bio a pass



another giving Bio a pass




ILM and LG innocents. Did vote Wiz, distancing since it was a safe vote?




I asked a couple of questions.



Got an answer to 1.

Bio you mind answering the other question which i bolded for you?



All in all I do think Wiz is more likely evil then I thought previously. Not sure it clears JL but as much as he went after JL I have to lower him on the list.

If you read everything in context, the "free pass" I gave labby was that I wasn't going to jump all over her as she stated I would about speculating innocent PR's in the game thread. I never removed her from my suspect list, and there were enough others jumping her for it.

I never used the word "pass" in my post. I stated that we didn't know how many scum there were and I was using 4 for my calculations. I never said I didn't find her suspect. I just needed to make room for ILM, who was playing identically to the way he did last time when the scum den told him not to post much. If I remember right, he UD'd then too.

It is good to try to learn what we can from night fall, just remember that after Kashta was hit I assumed it was JL as he was the one she was digging so hard at.

I do still do not trust him but in light of LR's post, and how LR turned, I would rather go after Bio and try to have a better chance of getting scum.