Mafia #70: The Time Vortex

It just occured to me that maybe if DD did get the babbling vial that's why she was asking why I didn't post the bio badlands rules as well. Would make us hopefully look at the rules again. Ugh, I've got enough doubt in my mind now that I retract my vote on DD. I vote to lynch Zs.

Ogre, I really hope you're right about him...I doubt mousepads go down well. I may still change my vote, Mad has made some good points as well.

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Lab, you hope Ogre's right? You're standing on Z with him.

This post worries me. You're considering changing your vote to Ogre, but get on Z behind him. And then say you hope that Ogre is right? Kinda looks like you're embracing him and pointing at him all at once. Playing both sides of the fence, so to speak.

Mad, thank you for posting the quotes on Ogre's position on LG. That kept coming to my mind as I was addressing Ogre yesterday while I was busy trying to figure out how I came up scum if Z is innocent???? (still dont get that one!) You are absolutely right - too many inconsistensies..... I need to rethink things....

Mad, some very good points about Ogre in your post. I was almost ready to vote for Z and then Z came back and explained himself and that combined with my current doubts on Ogre have me questioning where to put my vote for tonight.

Mainly just LG's points that got buried. I really want to hear from Ogre regarding the inconsistency, and how LG pointing it out, with regard to her own self, was just a chainsaw defense of Z.
 
I need to get some work done now. Be back this afternoon................
 
So, we are heading into what looks like a 2 horse race and you leave your vote as a singleton?

At this point in the day there is no gaurantee it will stay a singleton. Who knows what will come up when people start posting.

With ZS as the only one I feel comfortable enough to vote right now before DD, switching would just possibly lead to a landslide and we wouldn't learn anything as it is too easy for scum to hide.

scenario, ZS lynched by landslide, flips scum, where do you think the two scum will be voting?
 
It looked like some intentional misspellings of some words. You misspelled Khaos, invisiable, and something else. Zsand had done the same with another word. I actually searched previous games and found that you've spelled both words correctly, and incorrectly in the past. I didn't find that HN had any.

Now, I think you were just messing with FF, although he's never spelled invisible like that.
Which word? I wasn't on my usually computer this weekend that has spellcheck built into FireFox. Contrary to popular belief I am not as much the wordsmith as expected.
 
You've lumped me in with Wizard and Ogre, my two biggest suspects, does not compute.

Read some of my posts. I never said that you had to get along, just that you seems scummy.
 
Wiz, I'm not saying DD is innocent...I do want to see more from her before lynching her. She has fooled me before, she may be doing so again.

Zs, I'm not "sheeping". I vote for who I feel is scummiest. In fact, it now seems Ogre is the popular "sheep" vote. I posted my reasons for switching off of DD.

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I agree Noods, I have a hard time seeing anyone be as aggressive as Ogre when they're scum. It would be one thing if he were aggressive in response to some bush kicking, but to come out this hard without provocation does not seem like something scum would do. Of course, I've never played with Ogre before, maybe this is how he rolls.

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My agreement was in response to what Noods said about Ogre's aggressiveness, not her view on the babbling theory.

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Lab, which post of nood's are you referring to here? I don't see where she addresses Ogre's aggressiveness?
 
You've lumped me in with Wizard and Ogre, my two biggest suspects, does not compute.

Itsa list of scummy people, not people who get along...
 
I am not buying into the babbling vial theory. Bala said the lab worker was no where to be seen. I think he/she forgot to send in the hit.

Wiz, do you think it should be discounted to the point where we lynch DD? I don't trust jpap with his clues. I bet he's lolling hard right now. Same question for you too Noods.

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Lab/Wiz, I am in no way saying DD "appears" innocent or not, I am just saying that I dont believe in the babbling serum theory.

As far as I'm concerned, the merit of this babbling vial theory boils down to two considerations.

1. What exactly is one instructed to do (especially in that previous game) if the mod tells them they're supposed to babble? I haven't been in a role yet where I was told to babble and I don't remember that happening in a game I've played. (Well, Coler did get weird singing Al Jolson songs in the nude once. But that was normal for him. lol.) I've seen a town drunk that was killed right away. All that meant was he'd possibly "witness" something while impaired so his information was doutbful. I've also seen where someone was blackmailed by another where he had to vote someone specific. We've had various other spoiler roles too... assorted serial killers, renegades, vigilantes, etc.

If DD was babbling now, would she just post something not was true? Is it intended to be something self-incriminating? Or would she post something non-sensical? I don't remember if that vial was used in the badlands game or not (it not being one of my favorites) and I'm not going to have time to read another game today. If someone could answer this for me, I'd appreciate it.

2. Whether or not Pappy mentioned this just to mess with us. From what I've seen, Pappy seems to be most accurate with us when he tells us who died/didn't die, how, and by whom. We've also seen he does report when someone is turned. I think where he messes with us the most and is confusing/mysterious is while describing the new game format he's using for a new day. Example: Going into the badlands format, he hinted about blue mist on the horizon. Yet there was no blue mist come nightfall.

At this point, I'm discounting the babbling vial theory in DD's case because the case presented against her seems reasonable enough without it (IMO)... because I don't know if that's how a babbling role is manifested in someone's posting... because it seems a stretch for us to assume Pappy was trying to mislead there instead of clarify... because the fish/RAT code word theory was proved wrong... and because Pappy's comment is more simply explained by saying that was him telling us someone neglected to send him a PM or they told him they'd rather not use that vial.
 
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