Mafia #70: The Time Vortex

[Lab_Rat]

SORRY FOR THE ud TONIGHT GUYS... i TRUELY COULD NOT BE HERE AND THOUGHT i HAD VOTED ALREADY... WORK HAS BEEN A FAR MORE LARGER TASK THAN i THOUGHT AND IT HAS CONSUMED A LARGE PART OF MY WAKING HOURS.... i PROBABLY SHOULD NOT HAVE JOINED AND FOR THAT, i DO APOLOGIZE... AND rICH, AGAIN, PLEASE, NO HARD FEELINGS FOR THE "LIE" BIT... i WAS NOT INTENDING TO PERSONALLY ATTACK YOU AS i TRUELY DO THINK HIGHLY OF YOU OUTSIDE OF THE GAME. wITH THAT, NIGHT NIGHT FOLKS AND GOOD LUCK WITH THE REST OF THE GAME. sorry for the caps.... I am typing in the dark....

g/o sorry works sucks bad DD, hope it gets better. g/o

 

[Lab_Rat]

What do you guys think of Charlie and his lack of participation?

 

[Zaffy]

What do you guys think of Charlie and his lack of participation?

No ma'am, I don't like it.

 

[Lab_Rat]

No ma'am, I don't like it.

Me either...hopefully he'll step up his game. With this format it's essential for all townies to participate.

Jpap, will we just be in the gunslinger game for one shot? Is that considered a "night"? Or will this game finish out in the gunslinger format?

 

[jbradt]

Ok... after looking a little more, I think Kash is 100%. I think She likely was from the beginning.

How fun that we have a vote-happy group starting out.



^^ That from a previous game.

The line made me laugh at the time and I wanted to save it as a signature quote. I just forgot to go back and find it after the game ended.

This morning, I saw this:



Let me just say two things:

1. It's great to see you back, Sandy.

2. I vote to lynch Zsand <-- for being a hypocrite.

Kash votes for Zsand early.

I thought so too, Rich. That's the game I thought of.... but it's the wrong year.





I vote to banish Jpappy.

:banhim:

Kash responds to Rich and pretty much poo-poo's the idea that it could be the very game we were playing. Which was one of the two she herself mentioned early on. She didn't want us to know what game we were playing. Keep the conversation going, keep the town confused.

Pappy must be getting a huge kick out of this. We're already over-thinking everything.

She said this very knowingly. I'm not going to pretend to know what the code words were, but I bet they existed, and I bet this was an inside joke to her teammates.

My vote didn't seem to go anywhere, so...

I retract my vote on Zsand.

Really, the vote "didn't go anywhere"... sounds like someone was trying to rally support. We now know Z to be innocent... taken as another inside statement, this post takes on a whole new feel.

As far as I'm concerned, the merit of this babbling vial theory boils down to two considerations.

1. What exactly is one instructed to do (especially in that previous game) if the mod tells them they're supposed to babble? I haven't been in a role yet where I was told to babble and I don't remember that happening in a game I've played. (Well, Coler did get weird singing Al Jolson songs in the nude once. But that was normal for him. lol.) I've seen a town drunk that was killed right away. All that meant was he'd possibly "witness" something while impaired so his information was doutbful. I've also seen where someone was blackmailed by another where he had to vote someone specific. We've had various other spoiler roles too... assorted serial killers, renegades, vigilantes, etc.

If DD was babbling now, would she just post something not was true? Is it intended to be something self-incriminating? Or would she post something non-sensical? I don't remember if that vial was used in the badlands game or not (it not being one of my favorites) and I'm not going to have time to read another game today. If someone could answer this for me, I'd appreciate it.

2. Whether or not Pappy mentioned this just to mess with us. From what I've seen, Pappy seems to be most accurate with us when he tells us who died/didn't die, how, and by whom. We've also seen he does report when someone is turned. I think where he messes with us the most and is confusing/mysterious is while describing the new game format he's using for a new day. Example: Going into the badlands format, he hinted about blue mist on the horizon. Yet there was no blue mist come nightfall.

At this point, I'm discounting the babbling vial theory in DD's case because the case presented against her seems reasonable enough without it (IMO)... because I don't know if that's how a babbling role is manifested in someone's posting... because it seems a stretch for us to assume Pappy was trying to mislead there instead of clarify... because the fish/RAT code word theory was proved wrong... and because Pappy's comment is more simply explained by saying that was him telling us someone neglected to send him a PM or they told him they'd rather not use that vial.

Kash is more than happy to continue going on about moot things. Jpap said the vial hadn't been used, Kash knew it. Again, keeping the converstation up around moot points.

TRS- Zaffy 29, JL 297
Wiz- Ogre 47, Hn 50, JL 163, Zsand 274, DD 305, Rb 426, Jb 433, LG 438, Noods 445, Rich 450, Hn 600
Zsand- Kash 62
Chaz- Zsand 141
ILM- Lab 209, Zsand 300
FF- JL 211, Chaz 264
JB- LG 243
HN- FF 267, Kash 308, Chaz 402, Mad 470, Dawg 477, Fire 496, Jb 497, Wiz 572
LG- Noods 362
Mad- Fire 492
RB- Wiz 373, Zaffy 418, JL 542

No votes from: ILM, TRS

Day 1 vote. Kash get stuck on HN. She got on his train early thinking there was little chance of him actually being lynched and couldn't get off without throwing herself in the bag by the time he actually got lynched.

LG- Dawg 698, Noods 728, JL 731, Lab 748, Jb 877, Chaz 895, Kash 929, Rb 942, DD 945
Wiz- Zs 747
Zs- Ogre 755, JL 853, Noods 884, LG 926, Wiz 943, FF 953
Chaz- FF 801
Ogre- LG 849
Lab- Mad 850, Zaffy 930
Zaffy- Fire 918

Everyone has voted...nightfall in 30 minutes...

Night 2, Kash votes for Dawg, who's role is still not clarified.

SSSsssssssssssssHHHHHHHHhhhhhh!!!

Zs- JL 1004, Ogre 1027, FF 1035, JL 1042, Chaz 1057, Noods 1110, Rich 1113, Kash 1138, Lab 1175
DD- Lab 1102, Wiz 1115, Dawg 1225, Rb 1255, Fire 1290
Ogre- Zs 1168, Mad 1173, FF 1181, Zaffy 1211, JB 1224, Fire 1322

No vote from DD

Night 3. Kash's vote finally goes somewhere, and Zs gets lynched. I also believe ogre to be evil, but I am 100% on kash.

Think about it. Everyone's had her leaning innocent until recently. That (I believe) was largely based on her vote on HN. I think she got stuck and it worked to her advantage. Look back if you want, Labby. Really look into Kash's posts and what you find is a bunch of double talk and misdirection.

You know me. And you know that I'm usually pretty quiet until I'm onto something. I've got this one and I'm not letting go. Kash is evil.

 

[Zaffy]

Night 2 she voted LG, Dawg was also on her.

 

[jbradt]

Jeez, Zaffy. The point I just made is the scum team got to pick ANY townie. Not any townie PR. And they've had an opportunity to investigate townies at some point in the preceeding days which allowed them to eliminate someone communicating. So they're more prone to hand that gun over to someone they already know isn't communicating on our side.

Go back and read what Dawg posted.

LOL... Kash, you've seemed pretty clear about the rules... how come the slip here? Trying for more misdirection.

Correction: The gunslinger dies if they target a townie. They are very much at risk. I think that's important for people who weren't in the game to know. So if a physicist shoots a townie, the physicist will die. I don't see any other way to interpret these rules.

There is no AND situation here, the mafia was able to choose who got the gun. I think that's also pretty clear from Pappys posts.

In the gunslinger game I was scum, we chose Ice because we felt that getting a good player like him out early was the best course of action. That backfired.

Zs is dead, so his townie PR esp is luckily out of play.

Zaffy pointed it out...

Yes... I see what you mean now, Zaffy. It's just frustrating switching the rules around every day like this.

When I had the gun, I was just a townie before and there weren't any PRs I could have shot by mistake. And when I'm playing, I really don't care if I get killed. You learn that early in these games because you still win if your team does. So no, I wasn't thinking about that during the Gunslinger games.

Again, Kash has seemed pretty solid up 'til now. Why the lack of confidence now, Kash?

 

[Lab_Rat]

You may be onto something there JB. I do need to look through your posts though, I'll have to do that tomorrow since I'm falling asleep at the keyboard. But Kash could be fooling us all. I really didn't like her recent posts with her confusion about the gunslinger game. She seems to have a pretty awesome memory, so her confusion doesn't sit well with me.

Maybe Charlie got stuck on HN too?

 

[jbradt]

Night 2 she voted LG, Dawg was also on her.

You're right, Zaffy. My bad. I read it wrong. We still don't know Dawg's role, so there's really no help there. Bit I am right about this. I wouldn't post so vehimently if I wasn't. Kash is evil.

 

[Zaffy]

I think you're kinda scummy (you did send me duckweed after all... no problem there btw!) , but you make a good argument. I'm still not comfortable with you thinking HN would UD on night one, I think there's possibility that you were hoping someone else would make a play on that.