Mafia #70: The Time Vortex

[the wizard]

DD, I pulled your posts because I haven't seen as much of you as I am used to in these games.

I'm going to go with my initial suspicion on Wiz because I see nothing today that strikes any warning signs... I have to go finish dusting, vacuum, and then finish some work that I didn't get to during the day today because my job is completely hectic these days.

I vote to lynch Wiz.... I don't think I've seen much of Wiz since last night... but who knows, I guess reef, job... whatever.

crap, sorry guys, I have been unexpectedly inundated with work this past week so wasnt able to keep up... however, the weekend is on and even though I did bring work home, I will be able to catch up and get back in the groove with the game. The great news is that we got one scum in a lynch... I'm not really sure what happened to get to that point, but I will be able to catch up tomorrow and give my input... again, really sorry.... I had a few mod things to check on in the site but then I am out tonight... I am exhusted

Are you the only one that isn't suspicious because of RL issues pulling you away from the game?

this is what is more convincing to me about the whole "Rat" theory and G. I find it pretty unsettling though that Mad seems to be trying to play the theory down a bit though.... yet the whole HN trying to bring Mad down with him as he was being lynched is putting a barrier in there telling me that maybe mad is on to something, maybe the whole theory is ridiculous...

OK, care to share with the town any better theory that you might have?

the quote doesn't pick up what Dawg is quoting, but it's from this same page, just scroll up.... I picked this because I am curious as to why you found the posts interesting, Dawg. You know as well as anyone else that whether HN was Mafia or not, he wouldn't use foolish behavior as he is calculated, sometimes intensely. I know this doesn't say much because he did indeed turn up mafia but from experiences in the past, you know as well as anyone else that Hooked would not need to follow anyone around. He's no noob and shouldn't be thought of as one... that's all... I find it interesting that you believe he would in fact play a child's role when playing the game.

Defending known scum's game play when it was obvious enough to everyone else he placed an opportunistic vote. So obvious that it got him lynched.

ok, fair enough... so now what are you implying here?

(if the implied is that you are trying to assemble the 3 of us on 1 team, do you really think if I was on a team with HN and Noods, that I would make myself so obvious? Give me a little credit, Dawg... ) Yes, I did vote Wiz because I believed him to be acting suspiciously. By that, it's just what about everyone else felt, that he came out like a bull running and then slinked away, turning his aggression to friendly communications...

"just about everyone else felt"? What about your own thoughts?

Or were you just "going with the flow"?

this post got me to thinking... not only did Z vote for ILM, but Labby did too... yes, Labby did try to change her vote at the very last moment... not sure if that was just to make it look good or what... all I know is that Labby is a pretty savvy player.

This post was in reply to Mads post below I included it for ease of reference.

Admitting that ZS was voting for ILM, but glossing over the part of that vote that caught Mad's eye, the reason. Quickly pointing out LR's vote and actions that caught everyone's eye.

Trying to steer our attention elsewhere?

Something that's interesting about Z's ILM vote is the reason that he gave...something like 'just to keep everyone guessing'. If you're town, it's better to establish yourself as such, through your actions, as opposed to claim to be getting your kicks by confusing others. Z knows that.

DD, most of your posts have been fluff and filler, or stating "good point" agreeing with what other's have said without any additional input.

I am sure that the town would like to hear some of your own thoughts.

What do you think about the race that is forming between LG and ZS?

Who do you think is acting scummy?

 

[johnlarson66]

There are still quite a few that have not voted or really chimed in about much and nightfall is less than 8 hours.

I expected more activity.

 

[the wizard]

There are still quite a few that have not voted or really chimed in about much and nightfall is less than 8 hours.

I expected more activity.

I will grant that Mother's Day may keep many from the game a little bit more than they would be here but it would be nice to see some responses.

I have seen too much to question to just throw my vote out there yet.

 

[Fishfriend1]

Ok, JB don't think I've used the "confused blond card" but if you say so. Rb and I joked about me being blond big deal. I double dog dare you to keep your vote on me :.

You most certaintly did.

LG- Dawg 698, Noods 728, JL 731, Lab 748, Jb 877, Chaz 895
Wiz- Zs 747
Zs- Ogre 755, JL 853, Noods 884
Chaz- FF 801
Ogre- LG 849
Lab- Mad 850

No votes: Zaffy, DD, Fire, FF, Rb, Kash, Wiz

NIGHTFALL IN 7.5 HOURS

Thanks, that you be about 9pm eastern right?

There are still quite a few that have not voted or really chimed in about much and nightfall is less than 8 hours.

I expected more activity.

Yes, well when I come back yo about 20 new pages of typing it takes time to read it all.

Now, the whole "code Words" thing was a waste of time. Who started it?

 

[Lab_Rat]

The only thing I am hung up on LR is inconsistencies and contradictions.

I have been going through D1 and questioning the things that stick out to me. What's the matter? Isn't that what we're supposed to do?

Why does the questioning get you to state that we are all scum?

What inconsistencies and contradictions have I put forth? I'm glad you are questioning things, that's the only way the town can gain information. But you seem to be very focused on something I've explained over and over.

Questioning doesn't get me to state everyone is scum, it's a default state that everyone is scum in this game until proven otherwise. Some are more scummy than others.

You're disappointed? C'mon, as already pointed out by Wiz...thinking out loud on your keyboard? I got burned last game when I gave you slack on D2, due to your real life excuses. Won't happen again.

As far as voting ILM....it was lame. You've played with the guy, so you had to know that your vote wouldn't pressure him into playing. You also had to have had an idea he was going to UD. Looks like you may have thought it a safe place to hold your vote.

How did you get burned? And yeah, last game my rl was sucking bad and it totally affected my game play. But I was still lynched over my screw up. If getting home late and trying to see if moving my vote to somewhere that mattered and could help the town is your idea of a scummy screw up then keep your vote on me. As I said before, my initial (and it turns out final) vote was in a place where it would do the least damage to the town if ILM weren't scum. It was a safe place, safe in the idea that I didn't want to harm the town. And it turned out better for the town that I was too late to switch my vote.

 

[Fishfriend1]

To the blond card bit.-V-

You most certaintly did.



Thanks, that you be about 9pm eastern right?



Yes, well when I come back yo about 20 new pages of typing it takes time to read it all.

Now, the whole "code Words" thing was a waste of time. Who started it?

 

[the wizard]

What inconsistencies and contradictions have I put forth? I'm glad you are questioning things, that's the only way the town can gain information. But you seem to be very focused on something I've explained over and over.

Questioning doesn't get me to state everyone is scum, it's a default state that everyone is scum in this game until proven otherwise. Some are more scummy than others.



How did you get burned? And yeah, last game my rl was sucking bad and it totally affected my game play. But I was still lynched over my screw up. If getting home late and trying to see if moving my vote to somewhere that mattered and could help the town is your idea of a scummy screw up then keep your vote on me. As I said before, my initial (and it turns out final) vote was in a place where it would do the least damage to the town if ILM weren't scum. It was a safe place, safe in the idea that I didn't want to harm the town. And it turned out better for the town that I was too late to switch my vote.

LR, I pulled all of your posts last night and posted them. go back and read them.

You polled the town to determine whether to change your vote rather than to make the decision yourself. Then you stated that you weren't polling the town.

Now it appears as if you are getting defensive. It doesn't look good.

If HN had flipped innocent I am sure we would be looking at a 3 horse race right now.

 

[FireDancer7905]

Fire, you have pointed out posts from others that you "Hate" or find "Icky" but do you have any thoughts or suspicions on anyone?

How nice of you to ask! (And Happy Mother's Day! I'm so glad that your son got a phone call to you today!!)

I think that I agree with Mad on many points, and his logic is making sense to me. I'm going townie on him.

In my previous post, much of what I quoted from Mad was about DDawg, who I am leaning scummy. He tried to make it look like Mad did something he didn't do (push hard for Wiz).

Zaffy also makes me very, very uneasy. Throwing out the idea of the prs, then not posting about it is not helpful to the town. In fact, it makes it seem like you were trying to get our communicating townies to make noise. I think that this is the most scummy thing that I've seen, next to HN's list.

I think that Wiz is probably innocent, because I doubt that the scum would let 2/3 of their team be up for vote like HN and Wiz were. This makes Z's curret vote on Wiz suspect to me.

Ogre's not sitting quite right (the initial posts about Z were less-than-awesome), but his latest posts seem to be more like him. Paired with an endorsement from the seemingly cleared (via news headline) Rb, I'm remaining neutral on him atm.

I'm not sold on LadyG as scummy, as I previously stated [about the code words].

I vote to lynch Zaffy.

For reasons previously related.

 

[Lab_Rat]

LR, I pulled all of your posts last night and posted them. go back and read them.

You polled the town to determine whether to change your vote rather than to make the decision yourself. Then you stated that you weren't polling the town.

Now it appears as if you are getting defensive. It doesn't look good.

If HN had flipped innocent I am sure we would be looking at a 3 horse race right now.

OMG, I am not even going to bother to answer this any more. Go back and re-read my previous answers...what transpired has not changed since then.

 

[FireDancer7905]

I'm on record in previous games as not being very involved in day 1 antics. i think in general day 1 is a crap shoot where the scum always win. the odds are overwhelmingly in their favor. as townies we essentially have a random chance to pick scum for our votes, the is no reliable data to use.

with that said I've got a tin foil theory that puts someone on a potentially communicating team. and no I'm
not sharing at this time.

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Zaffy, care to enlighten us yet?

But looking back through the thread, noods, you asking Zaffy to expose his thoughts (and, potentially town power roles) is not a pro-town move. It concerns me that you would ask, after playing as much as you have.