Mafia 72-Vampires game thread

jbradt said:
Throw stones all you want, LG. If we had saved the stake it would have been totally lost. If Noods had staked Wiz, there'd be a chance for her to still be alive and even if she didn't have any stakes left would still be in communication with Dag. I'm frustrated as hell right now, TBH. IMO, this past nightfall was mediocre at best.

I'm done with this for the night. I'll be around in the afternoon tomorrow to answer whatever questions you have since I sense they'll be directed at me.
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Actually, I am going to go to bed also I am to tired to really think right now.

Just one comment though to you on this post...If Noods had staked Wiz, we could of staked an innocent also, having the same outcome. How is there a chance she would still be alive...the bite was on her she would of been bitten rather she used the stake or not. Yep, the stake would of been lost...but it would not have taken an innocent.
 
Lady G said:
Actually, I am going to go to bed also I am to tired to really think right now.

Just one comment though to you on this post...If Noods had staked Wiz, we could of staked an innocent also, having the same outcome. How is there a chance she would still be alive...the bite was on her she would of been bitten rather she used the stake or not. Yep, the stake would of been lost...but it would not have taken an innocent.
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Go back and look at the rules, LG. If the vamps and Noods had targeted one another, it would have been a coin toss to determine who died. We may have staked an innocent, but there is a CHANCE that Noods would still be alive.
 
jbradt said:
Go back and look at the rules, LG. If the vamps and Noods had targeted one another, it would have been a coin toss to determine who died. We may have staked an innocent, but there is a CHANCE that Noods would still be alive.
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True...but there is also a CHANCE Wiz could be, and we would of lost 2 innocents and kept a vamp.
 
I'm glad you were telling the truth dag, Sucks we lost Noods though. Well at least there was no turn. So unles Dag investigated FF we will know 2 innocents and that will leave a 1 in 3 chance of getting this right. I don't know how much I'll be around today, before 2H tries to make me guilty for lack of participation let me say what I'm guilty of is being a father and a son who doesn't expect many moments to himself today.
 
Perhaps we should all list our top suspect before Dag tells us which is innocent. Don't cop out and say you suspect everyone except Dag. That's probably true for all of us except Dag and the vamp. If you had to vote one person right now who would it be? For me it's JB.

Why not 2H - my suspicions on 2H were that he was an original vamp and being coached by Ice - Wiz being Drac makes me think the original vamps are gone.
 
As to why JB this was what first set off my warning bells.

jbradt said:
I was thinking about this a lot on my drive home, and I wanted to put it out there for discussion.

I was thinking about this management seminar I took and an exercise we did to show that groups make better decisions than individuals. The slayer got lucky night one, not so much night two. I've drawn some conclusions based on what Dag has said combined with the fact that we can trust him now. I won't go into detail, but we're at a crucial point as a town. We did well with getting 2 of the Pointy-Toothed Scum Suckers, but we lost two of our own to friendly fire.

To get to the point, I think we need to move past the Wiz. We can be sure of where to stand on him. My suggestion is that we leave the Wiz to the slayer. This gives the slayer a definite target for the last stake, and removes the risk that that person will target another innocent. The other effect is that as a town we get to leave it alone and seriously look into other suspects. It's day 4 now, and we have quite a bit of good information to work with. I think that we as a town have a better overall chance than the slayer to successfully take out a PTSS.

My suggestions for who to put up for the lynch if we go this way are FF and LG. It seems everyone has had suspicions of FF at at least one time or another, and it's undeniable that he's done some scummy things. I went back and forth on him because both Ice and Wiz were making a big deal out of him and voted that way; but in the end, I think it's time for him to pay the piper. I can't let him slide by anymore this game.

LG... I'd have to go back and look into her a little more, but she seemed to spend a lot of time defending Ice and blasting Dag.

I'd like to hear what you all think of this before placing a vote. I'll be home most of the day tomorrow, so I'm not going to vote yet.
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