Mafia 73: Werewolf Game!

Chill said:
That's a pretty broad list there Zaff, almost looks like you're ready to go whichever way the wind blows as long as it might save your a$$. Why is Kash only a maybe on your list? if someone was driving the nails in my coffin and I was innocent she would be at the top of my list.

Kash I wish you would answer my question about possible reasons for Wiz being the kill. You insisted on responses to your werewolf count and gave Zaff a hard time for ignorning your questions.
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I wanted to see her reply before passing judgment. I'm not a big fan on OMGUS votes. My list is based on scummy action, not who's mean to me.

Kashta said:
This is totally ridiculous. Zaffy, putting up this timeline makes absolutely no sense at this stage of the game.



That's very amusing, Zaffy.

Let's all take a better look at what Zaffy really says here and what he's trying to do.

#1. I posted an open question about the number of wolves possible in the game asking for a little feedback.

#2. Two hours later both Pappy and Zaffy were actively posting in the thread for a span of about 30 minutes.

#3. During that timeframe and as demonstrated from the actual posts I quoted in my post later.... the posts Zaffy and Pappy made were (coincidentally?) written in a strikingly similar tone. They almost simultaneously addressed the same things, asked the same kind of questions, and came across in their manner of writing as if they shared the same ideas... attitude... frame of mind.

#4. As I was also back in the thread again to catch up from earlier, I read through these posts. And I wondered... wow, those two sound so much alike it's hard to tell where one starts and the other leaves off.

#5. I kept reading and also wondered if the two posting were in communication with each other at that time they both were posting. Maybe there was a connection there as they seemed to be on the same page together.

#6. I also wondered why it was so important for both Pappy and Zaffy to confront JM the same way (within 5 min of each other's posts).

#7. I thought it was also curious that they then went on to both question two other players (Chill and Rocker) about Lady G... again at the same time within a few minutes of each other's posts.

After seeing this and noticing as well that neither Pappy nor Zaffy bothered to address other posts in the thread (including mine from 2 hours before) I wondered again why both would spend so much time posting what they did without bothering to get caught up in the thread. There seemed to me to be some element of haste behind this.

The next thing I did after I got done with the posts in the game thread myself was to switch back again to another page where I track the current vote count. There again at the top of that list was Zaffy's vote to lynch Pappy.

I thought that seemed weird. From what I had seen in the thread Zaffy and Pappy agreed with each other so much I had to glance at their avatars to tell their posts apart from each other's.

That's what made me wonder why on earth would Zaffy vote for a player (Pappy) when he so clearly seemed to agree with him. I checked back in the thread at that time and could find no previously overlooked posts that showed them disagreeing with each other or possibly suspecting each other.

So why was Zaffy voting Pappy? I had no clue.

I went back then to Zaffy's original post where he placed his vote (aka his joke-vote) on Pappy to read it again. That's when I remembered, oh right.. that's nothing but a garbage vote. There was no reason given and it wasn't even serious.

It made no sense to me why Zaffy would not have retracted this vote at some later point. It also made no sense why Zaffy wouldn't have further explained the vote if he intended to leave it on Pappy for some new reason that developed after it had been placed, initially, as just a joke.

That's when I pulled those specific posts from them both and asked what was going on.
"You guys may notice as I have that Jpappy actually follows me. Although the time stamps are close enough that it's possible we were forming ours posts at exactly the same time."
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Totally irrelevant to the point I made, Zaffy. You are wasting all of our time with this.

Which post hit the thread first or second within minutes of each other makes not a bit of difference when two communicating teammates are simultaneously chatting with each other in their scumden at the same time. Some people type faster than others... one might be posting at their communicating board while the other is drafting their post in the game thread at that time... a telephone call, for example, could interrupt and delay the submission of a post... and so on.

I didn't question you about this back then because you were following Pappy... which seems to be the allegation you're working to disprove. I questioned you because the posts that existed in the thread showed us you were both of the same mind. You shared the same opinions, questions, and viewpoints. And seemed to agree with each other.
That is what didn't fit at all because Pappy was the person you voted against.... for NO reason.
All this stuff now that you've gone back to rehash for us means absolutely nothing, Zaffy. You aren't being questioned about that anymore because those questions are no longer germaine to what we're looking at today.

The only reason I can see why you would bother with this particular argument NOW is in hopes that it might confuse the town and discourage us from voting you. This post from you clarifies nothing.... it doesn't help the town sort anything out.... it's nothing more than a lame attempt on your part to misdirect people.
"My question to everyone, is how did I know what jpap was going to post before he posted? how did I know to vote him early and keep my vote on him? are these things that are possible in this realm of existence?"
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Interesting questions, Zaffy. But again..... irrelevant.

You aren't under suspicion today because we still believe you were aligned with Pappy. Jpappy is dead now, remember? And we know he was innocent. What you've gone back to dredge up now in your own defense has nothing to do with your alignment with Lab Rat.... and it's that connection with her (not Pappy) that has brought you up for lynching this nightfall.

You did come up with a convincing argument... but it's to dispute the entirely wrong allegation.

Silly werewolf.
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What is totally ridiculous is the fact that you built this whole case against me. and that now when you are faced with facts that unravel it, you squirm and insist that you're still right.

Great minds must think alike.

We seemed to agree with each other except on how far we were going to take out grilling of JM, Jpappy took it further than I did. That fact is what I found as reason to keep my vote on Pappy. As I stated prior to your asking me for clarification.

No, it was actually a good reason in my opinion. I really felt like he took it too far and got blinded by his enthusiasm. When someone is so intent on a single person, that they ignore everyone else. I find that scummy, I think they have a hidden agenda. Like you, in this case.

I'm not trying to misdirect anyone. I'm trying to get them to ask their own questions. As it is, there are several people following your words. What they are posting as their own is saying that "Zaffy followed Jpap to set him up." This proves that to be wrong.

Who said anything about Lab_Rat? Or did I make the mistake of having a thought that she also had?

Who's the hypocrite now? You have a pack following your words. But you're slinging mud at people because they shared an opinion.


You're whole argument against me is that I didn't change my vote away from someone who I superficially agreed with. Based on 5 comments between 2 people. I don't buy that, you're better than that. I think you have an agenda to get me out of here. I think you killed off Wiz for being a vet, and I played into your hand with my vote against Jpap. You're systematically trying to get rid of the vets of this game so that you can roll over the newbies.

I vote to lynch Kashta
 
What time is night? FF said the same time, but he was late. is is the same late time? or the same "it was supposed to be" time?
 
Chill said:
That's a pretty broad list there Zaff, almost looks like you're ready to go whichever way the wind blows as long as it might save your a$$. Why is Kash only a maybe on your list? if someone was driving the nails in my coffin and I was innocent she would be at the top of my list.

Kash I wish you would answer my question about possible reasons for Wiz being the kill. You insisted on responses to your werewolf count and gave Zaff a hard time for ignorning your questions.
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Just wanted to add. Absolutely I will change my vote if it means saving my hind end. I've done it before (When innocent! Kash knows this all too well) and I'll do it again. So look for them to make sure I have a 2 vote lead heading into night.
 
user_name said:
I'm not counting JM out, and my theory has kash, fishy88, and lady g working together, however the men at arms ARE allowed to communicate, so this might clear kash and lady g. JM is still scummy to me.



I don't know what ice could be, why don't ya send him a howl???



It seems that the fishy88 is getting a little nervous when others vote him



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and 2 posts later
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Still think it's unimportant? I mean just check your pm box and you'll know....
:banhim:

I VOTE TO LYNCH PIHRANA88
and all his other wolfy friends.....
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Ok, User...you have grabbed my attention quite well here. I asked about fishy 88 you said you meant Pihrana....in your post you have quotes from him....so, how did you forget his name? You have named ppl of PR's (or who you thought could be), several times and been warned about it several times, yet you continue to do it...
So, are you voting a team mate here, is his name fishy 88 in your den? In your vote you don't even get his name right....its Piranaha86 NOT 88?
You are really, really looking bad over and over
 
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