Mafia #77 Game thread- Back to the basics

I'm not following you.
Lets say one says they are investing me, and the other says you. They both come back after nightfall and claim we are both innocent. How does that help the town know who is telling the truth? In the mean time we still have to lynch someone (a third party, likely another innocent). The scum team gained a day and two more innocents.

It doesn't help us immediately... but it tells us something later on after we get more facts to analyze.

This is only the 2nd day and we've already had 3 role claims. Normally, to prove a claim, someone just needs to volunteer their invest subject before and confirm the result after -- and we have protection to cover them so the mafia hit would fail. Without Lab Rat, we can no longer protect the real det now or later. That means the mafia gets to kill whomever it is tonight.

As it stands now, we can all come up with umpteen reasons to believe or disbelieve either one of them. If we (collectively) guess wrong and lynch our own detective by mistake, we've just handed the scum an additional hit they don't already have.

Whoever Piranha and Rich tell us they intend to investigate won't be proved right all by itself with only tonight's nightfall result. But it forces the mafia to kill the real detective now using up their hit instead of our lynch because we won't already be killing the person for them.

Then, whoever is named as the intended invest by Pir and Rich (before one of them survives the lynch and the hit)... that person will at least know whether the surviving claimant was lying or not. That gives us useful input from at least one other townie or more rope to hang another mafia member later in the game.

This is still real early in the game and nothing we do will give us the whole picture. We're still gathering little pieces to the puzzle.

I just don't see any value in potentially killing our own det accidentally. We should make the mafia use up one of their hits instead to do that themselves.
 
You have lead everyone 'searching' three times in this game now. Why is that?
I wanted us to find scum.
Also, you did not give any evidence on my case :)
I investigated you :D
Well I did point out the quotes about 40 pages ago and he has avoided the question ever since. The first was the hand picking by mod incident. The second was "we should try find who would have hit labby" and the third was pointing out me and other people without any evidence and telling them to look into us that he has accused.

And I have not been investigated. I know it.
Is it a problem that I wanted the town to find people?
Thanks rich, at least someone has some brains around here :) if everyone votes to lynch pirana and finds he is scum then you will all know I'm telling the truth... I know I haven't been investigated, especially by pirana so therefore he is lying to get another innocent lynched... I hope everyone understands this.
You freakin worship him.
Whatever, you will soon see you are making a foolish mistake and I WILL see pirana in death chat :) pirana, your awfully quiet.. Wanna reply?
That's completely a threat.
Piranha - When you voted Zaffy (post 670), you did not retract your vote on Haydn (post 637). That causes problems. Your later votes may not count.
Just to clarify, I retract all previous votes and vote to lynch Haydn.
Not that you don't have enough other post to make you look bad Piranha, but these two really stick out to me.



So your first invest was going to be a vet, but when she came out you couldn't decide on a second so you chose a first time player? I'm not buying it.



If this is true, and like you stated you only had a couple of minutes, why not go with the one that another vet (ICE) suggested?
Labby was acting scummy. I just wanted to find scum, I didn't care who, just scum.
 
Ugghhh!!

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That is not working for me Kashta.

Pir go find out for yourself of course you already know.

Didn't quite do it for me either, but it's the best I could post at a family friendly site.

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It doesn't help us immediately... but it tells us something later on after we get more facts to analyze.

This is only the 2nd day and we've already had 3 role claims. Normally, to prove a claim, someone just needs to volunteer their invest subject before and confirm the result after -- and we have protection to cover them so the mafia hit would fail. Without Lab Rat, we can no longer protect the real det now or later. That means the mafia gets to kill whomever it is tonight.

As it stands now, we can all come up with umpteen reasons to believe or disbelieve either one of them. If we (collectively) guess wrong and lynch our own detective by mistake, we've just handed the scum an additional hit they don't already have.

Whoever Piranha and Rich tell us they intend to investigate won't be proved right all by itself with only tonight's nightfall result. But it forces the mafia to kill the real detective now using up their hit instead of our lynch because we won't already be killing the person for them.

Then, whoever is named as the intended invest by Pir and Rich (before one of them survives the lynch and the hit)... that person will at least know whether the surviving claimant was lying or not. That gives us useful input from at least one other townie or more rope to hang another mafia member later in the game.

This is still real early in the game and nothing we do will give us the whole picture. We're still gathering little pieces to the puzzle.

I just don't see any value in potentially killing our own det accidentally. We should make the mafia use up one of their hits instead to do that themselves.

OK, that I understand, but by false role claiming are not the scum hoping to gain a free day, and aren't we giving them that by waiting?
ALSO, lets say they don't hit either one, but hit a third party....now where are we and what have we gained?
 
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