Mafia 81: The Bloody Coup

Labby, work has had me up til midnight at least none stop only to start back again at 8..... but I'll work it out

That sucks. Hope it lets up soon.

If Dawg and Bally were on the same team moving to her when it looked like she was going to go anyway, made him look great that was my point...I'm sorry I can see him doing it. Yes, evil would want him gone, but they also would of wanted to not be noticed and able to be called out.

I am not acting like it was a bad thing that votes moved. I simply am saying just because Dawg did, does not clear him.

If Dawg and Bally were on the same team, don't you think Dawg would have left his vote where it was and told Bally to move to save herself? I'd imagine that knocking out the bodyguard has got to be a high priority for scum since he can block a hit on the president. A much higher priority that possibly making one of them look good by saving the bodyguard.

I left the part to Zaff in to make a point here, do you not think Bally wouldn't take one for the team? Having Dawg move to her and not moving to save herself...sounds like a good way to help out the team when you think it is going down.

I didn't mean it wasn't necessary, but I'm sure had he not moved someone else may have. Yes, I am glad he did it as I have said already. I didn't move because I wasn't here the entire time watching everything...I saw the vote count and she was in the lead, and actually didn't think about the fact she could of moved to save herself. I was hurrying each time I poked my head in. Had I realized that I would of moved.
Of course Bally would take one for the team. See above though. Getting the bodyguard out via lynch would have been much more important than making one of their own look good by sacrificing a teammate.

Sorry G, that excuse doesn't cut it with me. Dawg didn't move his vote until 11 minutes before nightfall. Earlier you said you were sure someone would have moved if Dawg hadn't. Please tell me who this mystery person who would have moved is. Surely wasn't you. Noods didn't make a move to save him either.

Speaking of Noods, what do you make of her not moving her vote to save 2H? She posted 3 minutes before nightfall, when there was still time for Bally to switch to 2H.
 
I have to go for now, I will be back on after I take my kids to school in the morning. If everyone thinks I am scum, I understand, I spose I can see it because I didn't move my vote. I am not going to go into the whole if I were evil I would of done this or not done that thing b/c I don't think it really does anything for anyone, but I will answer what ever questions anyone has for me.
 
That sucks. Hope it lets up soon.

If Dawg and Bally were on the same team, don't you think Dawg would have left his vote where it was and told Bally to move to save herself? I'd imagine that knocking out the bodyguard has got to be a high priority for scum since he can block a hit on the president. A much higher priority that possibly making one of them look good by saving the bodyguard.


Of course Bally would take one for the team. See above though. Getting the bodyguard out via lynch would have been much more important than making one of their own look good by sacrificing a teammate.

Sorry G, that excuse doesn't cut it with me. Dawg didn't move his vote until 11 minutes before nightfall. Earlier you said you were sure someone would have moved if Dawg hadn't. Please tell me who this mystery person who would have moved is. Surely wasn't you. Noods didn't make a move to save him either.

Speaking of Noods, what do you make of her not moving her vote to save 2H? She posted 3 minutes before nightfall, when there was still time for Bally to switch to 2H.
All I can say is sorry I didn't move, I didn't and there is nothing that can change that now.
However, all this shows exactly what I was talking about in the first place as to why Dawg would bring up how no one could call him out because he moved and saved the BG, and how he made sure it was brought up and talked about more.
As I said if I seem the scummiest to you, then you should vote me...I will take my lynch and hopefully everyone can look back and learn something from it.
 
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I don't know why I look at this **** thread when I have other work to do. Now I have to think about it all day again.

Dawg's posts seem off to me last night but I'm not convinced his scum. I'm pretty sure his not FBI - I don't see him moving against Bally if he was but more importantly if they were team mates why not tell her in the den to tie it up?

Sorry 2H I'm not getting any real a scum vibe off Pap. I could be wrong I'm just not seeing anything.

At this point I do trust Labby. That wasn't the case on Day1 as I was pretty convinced she was scum but I have since revised that opinion.

At this point I have the most suspicion on UN for his reaction to my earlier question. I also get a bad feeling from Noods.

I've no read on Rich which is normal I can never read him.

FF and Piglet - other than annoying as hell I don't know their play is just so random

DD- hasn't posted enough to know

Zaffy - still trying to figure him out

G - innocent? Labby's post leans me to rethink on G

Pir is much the same as Ff and Piglet
 
Speaking of Noods, what do you make of her not moving her vote to save 2H? She posted 3 minutes before nightfall, when there was still time for Bally to switch to 2H.

Well, this seems to be the question of the day - In retrospect I regret not moving to Bally to make sure 2H did not get lynched, and I honestly cannot say why I did not. Yes, I was around before nightfall, things happened so fast right before nightfall I was just trying to keep up! unfortunately I did not glue myself to the laptop screen , we had company and we were watching a movie (the Blind Side) and I was trying to pay attention to the game as well as the movie (and not be rude). Apparently multi-tasking or dividing my attention is not my strong point.

If Bally and I were on the same team, don't you think I would have moved my vote to her to clear my own name, when it became clear that she was under the gun? I think with the way she moved her vote to me and then her little after death post were last minute desparate attempts to cast suspisions on others before (and apparently after) she was lynched.

I need go back and review LG and see where my thoughts are on her. As for Dawg - I can never read Dawg, but not really seeing anything that sticks out as scum. Jpap - I know 2H suggested we all lynch him but not getting a scum feeling from him so I just cant vote him in good conscience at this point. UN still has my suspisions and I would happily vote there....

I would love to hear more from DD (she promised she would play this game with me! LOL) and hopefully RL will allow her to step it up a little bit...
Where did 2H go? He is the only one we can truly trust at this point and he has not been around much....I need to get some work done but will be back later.............
 
Dawg, I haven't backed off of anything that was questioned, your posts have caught my attention, I have said so. I also know how many times I have trouble reading you and have been wrong. You see I don't like to just throw my vote out there to have a vote out, I actually like to think about mine and try to be sure about it. I am not one to vote and change 3 times in one day
Even when it comes to saving an innocent PR? I think my vote change is justified and for some reason you keep trying to discredit it.

Are you really saying that voting Bally to save the BG was the weakest reason to vote?

Lets look at the ppl you have voted so far Dawg besides Bally, FF...someone who tends to start posting like crazy and all over the place when votes go his way, and others tend to vote easily for. Then there is Ninja, who is new and also pretty spastic in his posting...others tend to want to vote him, then me, someone else who others tend to vote pretty easily.
You haven't really said much of anything about them before voting you just take one post and BAM vote them.
I am saying that I had no evidence on Bally being or playing scummy. It was purely a vote to save 2H. I could have just as easily moved to UN to save 2H. It seemed like the Town preferred Bally gone so that's why I moved there. It is the evidence on Bally that I was saying was weak. It was purely a gut instinct at the last few minutes before night.

Now you try to link me to Bally by saying i'm trying to make myself look good by taking out a teammate. If I was on Bally's team I would not have voted for her. I would have either not moved my vote and tried to get rid of 2H or moved my vote to UN and saved Bally and still looked good for saving 2H. You are still trying to make things up to get me lynched and it's not working out for you. Maybe you should go back to picking on Zaffy.
 
All I can say is sorry I didn't move, I didn't and there is nothing that can change that now.
However, all this shows exactly what I was talking about in the first place as to why Dawg would bring up how no one could call him out because he moved and saved the BG, and how he made sure it was brought up and talked about more.
As I said if I seem the scummiest to you, then you should vote me...I will take my lynch and hopefully everyone can look back and learn something from it.

When did I say no one could call me out because of the 2H thing? What I actually said is I can see how it doesn't clear me. Unfortunately for you...you still try to show me as an FBI trying to look good...when I clearly proved I am not FBI based on my vote. If anything you should be arguing that I am CIA. The more you talk the more scummy you become in my eyes.
 
Even when it comes to saving an innocent PR? I think my vote change is justified and for some reason you keep trying to discredit it.


I am saying that I had no evidence on Bally being or playing scummy. It was purely a vote to save 2H. I could have just as easily moved to UN to save 2H. It seemed like the Town preferred Bally gone so that's why I moved there. It is the evidence on Bally that I was saying was weak. It was purely a gut instinct at the last few minutes before night.

Now you try to link me to Bally by saying i'm trying to make myself look good by taking out a teammate. If I was on Bally's team I would not have voted for her. I would have either not moved my vote and tried to get rid of 2H or moved my vote to UN and saved Bally and still looked good for saving 2H. You are still trying to make things up to get me lynched and it's not working out for you. Maybe you should go back to picking on Zaffy.
Yes, your switch was justified I have never said it wasn't and it was a good move I have said that. My point is just because you did that does NOT clear you in anyway.

Yes, you could of moved to UN instead and voted along side 2 other FBI. You see this is why I could see you and Bally setting this up, had you moved to UN he may of come up innocent and then you would of been questioned as to why you moved to the same person the other two FBI had moved to instead of Bally who the town seemed to be moving to. It wouldn't work out the same in trying to "clear" yourself with the vote switch to UN.
 
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