Mafia 88: Insane Asylum (Game Thread)

[[AC] wing nut]

here is the post where driver is saying they were thinking through the eyes of HH

I have been thinking about HH, he starts this PM/role call thing to I suppose start a case on a known innocent. My question is why? There was a lead vote getter already candidate already. Was HH trying to be overly clever to get someone voted off or was he trying to save some one. I am not sure but I leaning towards the save some one. If that supposition is correct then there is a very short list of person who where in trouble.

Of course HH could have just been stirring the pot and got carried away, I just do not see why. I feel HH had to be protecting only way I can figure it.

even if this was true wouldn't it be nem and scoop at the top of drivers list for suspects since they were who he was protecting?

At the time of HHs case starting there were 1 vote on scoop and 1 vote on 3toes. who was HH protecting? he started the case at 5 am, i think he was just trying to throw another player into the ring for votes.it just didn't catch on till chupa answered and others caught on later into the day.

here is my post proving that his thought was wrong that it couldn't have been protection

I think I see where I was wrong here I missed the early post and caught the later one. I still think it is very possible that HH kept pushing it when all was going wrong to keep votes from going else where. It is just my gut saying HH was trying get the votes on Chup when that failed HH sunk him or herself. I still can think of only one decent reason why.

so driver still thinks its protection so why the vote on gun when scoop and nem were the two in trouble?

 

[Madcrawdad]

Vote Count (thru post 871)

scoop (2) - RICK 786, wing 852
RICK (1) - Tree 828
Gun (1) - Driver 840
Driver (1) - O3T 856

No vote: BH, chup, gold, Gun, mael, nar, Nem, scoop, Tib, UhOh

Nightfall in a little over 9 hours (8 pm CST). PMs as required, please.

 

[Madcrawdad]

Votes MUST be Bolded to Count

As per the rules, votes must be bolded in order to count.

Be aware that I am not always closely reading each and every post, but am instead generally scrolling through the thread, looking for bolded votes, in order to keep an accurate tally. This is particularly the case as we get closer to nightfall, and more votes come in and/or move around.

If I accept one unbolded vote, then I must accept all unbolded votes. As I cannot guarantee that I'll catch all unbolded votes, I, therefore, cannot accept any.

If you choose to play from your phone, botched tags aren't good enough. Your vote must be bolded to count.

 

[[AC] BadHaggis]

Even with me being gone so much, I've seen that you were able to see through what Hammer tried to pull on me. You all did a great job pinning him down, so I won't dredge all that up again. But I do need to address some things from the 1st day that I didn't get a chance before to post about.

The blue part was a good question but the red part bothers me.

IMO my posts were okay......really, just okay. They weren't great and I didn't consider them particularly informative TBH. Drawing high praise from Bad Haggis for a few mediocre posts concerned me at the time and still does a little.

I don't like it when someone cozies up to me like this....stuff like that creates a little blurp on my scumdar. Though admittedly, that's often a false ping that's easy to misread, so I've learned that I can't rely on it. Even so, I've been leery of BH ever since he posted that about me

i thought they were pretty good posts.

Post #275 - Bad Haggis voted Gunslinger (distancing?) and later retracted.
Post #277 - I voted Hammer for obvious (to me) scummy tactics directed at me.
Post #278 - Gunslinger voted Nemesis immediately following my vote.
Post #292 - Bah Haggis followed Guns' vote and voted alongside his previous "suspect" against Nemesis.

At this point, Hammer hadn't even goofed yet so other townies would really notice, but Gun and BH are already positioning themselves in a way that could be considered defensive or protective of Hammer.

as i said before, just because i vote with someone doesn't mean i think their innocent. it only means i think the other guy is evil.

i'm not having the greatest day of my life here. went biking yesterday for the first time since fall, and man am i outta shape... went to bed at 10, woke up at 12... have a headache, cough, and am still pooped... and, as if that wasn't enough, i ache everywhere. i am not in am mafia mood today...

as such, i vote to lynch no one in case i can't think enough to find a better choice. will review posts again, but idt that i will be getting anything better...

 

[[AC] BadHaggis]

I retract my vote on Scoop and I vote to lynch Doom. The lame attempt at bringing in simple day 1 banter to continue momentum against me after their lame attempt against C-note failed enhances their scumminess in my mind.

late day 2 vote, from an unknown to a known innocent

It is way too quiet this close to nightfall. This is making me nervous.

comments on this, maybe distancing himself from evil?

Holy crap that was a bad nightfall. No wonder it was so quiet ahead of time. Sorry to see all y'all go.

again with the quiet before nightime post, seems weird he would bring it up twice...

With Gold Member, if what I think is going on is going on, they have a legitimate excuse.

Sorry...

Mafia just had to rub it in, didn't they.

Wait, C-Note was the vigilante's hit?

how could you be confused about this? seems like your trying to play it dumb to me

...and that

seems to... happy

So Scoop, was this another set up? I mean, you were arguing with C-note just before nightfall and they were the one who got hit.

brings up the set up post again, seems like a good way to get scoop voted off without looking evil for it

Scoop = UN? Both like to read and re-read...

Please re-do the first part of whatever you were trying to say as I have no idea what you were trying to say because it's all jacked up.

What do you mean "made the same vote" only you "got grilled for it".

Never said my argument for you was perfect. I was saying if you're trying to pull a strategy I've used successfully when scum, it's not gonna work on me. So tell me, why are you so sure I'm evil? Because I pointed out your "set up" statement has been used successfully in the past by scum? Because I would have pointed out HH's ridiculous argument and voted to get HH lynched as the scum he was if I were scum? Please, tell me why you think I am scum, I can't wait to hear your reasoning.

And lol, your argument against me was very weak. Haggis is aligning themself closely with you, for whatever reason.

uses the old "i did this so i can't be evil" argument...

Rounds it all off with a laugh and a shrug

ok, my brains about fried from that much thinking... i'll continue this later

 

[[AC] wing nut]

Now this is a BH post that helps move him from leaning scum to probably scum. Either BH is an individual that can't comprehend context of posts or is trying very hard to twist them into something of substance. For example the tree post with the winky smiley was in response to my post about cnote being the vog and wouldn't have shot himself which was in response to Nems post of was cnote killed by the vig. to add the tib "i did this so i can't be evil" arguement isn't that at all. tib is saying its something he has done so he wouldn't be fooled by it.
so BH, did you fall off your bikeor is this really your thoughts?

why vote no one after going through the trouble of pulling posts and making a case? why didn't you vote tib,nem or tree?

4 or more players haven't even posted in over 24 hrs .
7 votes out of 15 people and 2 are for no one. its no fun when others aren't trying.

 

[[AC] narwhal]

I'm looking at the voting.

Vote Count (thru post 391) - red indicates that vote has been retracted

HH (8) - chup 277, wing 310, Tib 320, Nar 323, gold 363, Nem 368, Tree 383, mael 385
Nem (5) - Driver 261, HH 269, Gun 278, BH 292, HI IQ 361
Scoop (2) - wing 168, Doom 196, Star 274
C-note (1) - O3T 192
UhOh (1) - RICK 237
Doom (1) - UhOh 271
Tib (1) - C-note 272
Star (1) - scoop 297
O3T (0) - RICK 186
Gun (0) - BH 275
Chup (0) - HI IQ 295
Mael (0) - Nem 236
RICK (0) - HI IQ 322
Nar (0) - mael 240, gold 268

All have voted

Reminder: No lynch if vote is tied at nightfall

Nightfall in 13 minutes

Wow! Interesting turn of events. I really don't see what people see in Nem. I think HH is scum based on the PM post. Clearly Chup did not post a PM from Mad. The other thing that is puzzling to me is HH makes a case for Chup and then votes for Nem?? And doesn't make a case for their vote on Nem. Since I need to vote still and don't see a better choice...I vote to lynch HH

At the time of Tree_Huggers vote on HH. The count was 6 for HH, 5 for Nem with only Maelstrom left to vote.

If the scum team had come to the conclusion that HH was made. It's a possibility that this vote is cutting their losses and sacrificing a teammate. What bothers me is the summary of why the vote is placed. "Since I need to vote still and don't see a better choice." Three sentences earlier you say that you think HH is scum, but then you vote because you need to, not because you think HH is scum.

Now night 2

Vote Count (thru post 726) - red indicates retracted vote

HI IQ (5) - Nar 434, O3T 458, Nem 510, Tree 525, RICK 535, chup 663
Doom (4) - wing 482, Gun 542, C-note 550, UhOh 645, Tib 722
Nem (2) - HI IQ 537, Driver 621
Tib (2) - scoop 658, BH 667
C-note (1) - Doom 460
O3T (1) - Gun 578
Driver (1) - O3T 635
Scoop (0) - Tib 558
No Lynch (2) - gold 618, mael 657

All have voted.

Nightfall in 35 minutes (8 pm CST). PMs as required, please.

So your answer is you don't want to answer? You said these two were your 2 top suspects. Who would you vote for is all I'm asking. I'm also trying to figure out if you are distancing from Chup or not. Heck Chup seems to have dropped right off of your radar. Your answer won't do much for us now I suspect but it may shed some light once we know what you are. I'm thinking that because of your dancing and non-answer to the question you are scum.

Unless something better arises...I vote to lynch HI IQ

The question TH wanted IQ to answer was something like "who would your vote for right now." Is it possible that TH was just fishing for a reason to vote IQ?

Again, the summary is weak. "Unless something better arises."

TH, are you looking for scum, or do you already know who they are?

 

[[AC] BadHaggis]

@Wing: i'll try harder when i'm able to see without little dots flickering up in my eyes... and no, i shouldn't have posted at all, just wanted to help out, but it appears i failed at that... no surprise there... i'm going back to bed now, i may not be back till tomorrow....

 

[[AC] wing nut]

I know im voting with someone i think is scum, but i think rickets voted scoop quickly after night fall because he was mentioned as someone to look at. this was done thinking either we wouldn't look at scoop now or vote him. im betting rickets will move with enough votes on scoop or if not i will move to rickets.


BH i didn't say you shouldn't have posted but if you build cases against players and think at least one of them is scum you should have voted one of them instead of no one.

 

[[AC] UhOhChongo]

I have to agree.

The ones that have voted no one I need to look into some more. At this stage in the game you have to have someone you suspect.