Mafia 88: Insane Asylum (Game Thread)

[[AC] Tiburon321]

Tib, that video made me laugh so hard I forgot what I was going to look for. lmao.

Before I get too involved looking through old posts, I want to get this out. I already knew what the nightfall results revealed when I read the game thread. On Day 1 the scum hit Star Crossed and on Day 2 they killed CNote. I wondered if I could find something that tells us why they chose who they did.

Star Crossed made good posts from the start. Didn't see any one thing that I thought would make them a target, but they were quite sharp and actively questioning many details the whole day. I did find one post made by CNote which may have drawn their hit.

Lol, I love fainting goats!

And the rest of your post I agree with, I just shortened it so it wouldn't take up so much room. That inference from Gun as to who they are, combined with their lack of posting in the thread, makes me think they have an outlet somewhere else to post. Also, the lack of building cases on anyone and superficially appearing helpful is why I am voting for Gun. I think Gun is scum and has linked themselves to others through distancing. Gun seems to be a common connection to many on my scum list.

Nem, you don't bother to post your reason with a vote? There are no beginners here. Everyone knows to do that.

Agree. Nem, your reasoning for voting to lynch Gun please.

 

[[AC] UhOhChongo]

I have spent a lot of time on the game this weekend, so much so that my laptop over heated and shut down while I was going through Mael's day 2 posts. I lost everything that I had but rather than spend all that time going through them again I will summarize what I found. (I still have more digging to do before voting in light of recent posts)

Mael originally voted Nar on day 1. I can't remember the reason he gave but I didn't see a lot from her day 1 myself and did have her as a possible day 1 vote. About 1/2 an hour before nightfall, he retracted off of Nar and voted HH.

Nothing wrong with that, if I had been able to get back to the game before nightfall I would have changed my vote as well.

What I did notice is that Mael has not asked Nar any questions at all since day1. Why is that?
How do you vote someone one day, switch for a vote on obvious scum and then not have a question for your original vote the rest of the game?

Who is does question, if you want to call it that is HI IQ. then roughly three and a half hours before night says he doesn't want to tie the vote and votes no one. (I could be wrong about the time here but it is approximate)

I don't condemn anyone for not wanting to vote someone that they are unsure of. But to avoid a tie? There was plenty of time before night and with the heat IQ was taking I really don't think there would have been a tie.

The vote no one vote caused Tib to vote differently than he was inclined to do because of the time of his vote he could have caused a tie. Had he been afforded the luxury of voting his original thought HI IQ may stilol be with us today.

I am done with that rant. I have a couple more to look at.

 

[[AC] UhOhChongo]

As I was going through the "NO ONE" votes I found an interesting coincidence I didn't notice before.

I'm not liking HH's argument that it was a pm. ( can't pull quotes either, can't figure out how to get off the mobile site..... ). But HH claimed that it was a quote from an innocent pm, but it turns out it was a quote from post #1 thus he must not have received an innocent pm, or he would know what one looks like...

In light of that I retract my vote on narwhal and vote to lynch HH

Like Mael, Gold retracted from Nar to vote HH. Can't blame him for switching to HH.

However, like Mael, I also didn't see any questions after that to Nar.

Now that HH has proven to be mafia, what do you think of your prior reasoning that HH was just impulsive and, I'm assuming since you choose to look elsewhere, innocent?

Funny how your "coin" kept you off a mafia member. Good place/reason to hide IMO. Don't want to vote a team member who is up for the lynch so you play the "I can't decide and flipped a coin" and it conviently doesn't land on your teammate.

Well Nem, what do you think now?

I find the wording "if innocent" interesting, wouldn't it make more sense to say "if scum" on the grounds that is what the town is searching for? But you choose to say if he turns up innocent, I can't seem to find the words to exactly articulate why this is noteworthy, but that just doesn't sit right with me

I can't remember who the first response was to in the above quote. He does respond to BH as if he knows BH's alignment.

Rickets, I pulled this from where you answered C-notes questions in the quote itself. Interestingly enough I had to copy and paste because simply quoting the post wouldn't allow me to quote the part you answered in what you quoted from C-note. Why were you worried about O3T at that point, they were not the only low posting player. Tree_hugger was also very nonexistant at that point, why did you not vote for them to get them to post more? I guess I'm just curious of 2 things in this quote...
1. Why did you answer part of C-notes questions in the quote?
2. Why did you feel the need to spur O3T into posting more when there were many other nonexisting players?

since clicking the little arrow thing will take you to C-notes post in which he posed the questions to Ricket, the post I am referring to, by Rickets, is #490

Pokes at Rick over their game. Didn't follow up though, as a matter of fact, Rick answered this question with "Because I wanted to." Which is what set me digging into Rick's posts and play and I was the one that went after Rick for his response.

I don't know if I"m really seeing the case on Hi-IQ, if they are innocent it would be very easy for the scum to find the one person who agreed, or seemed to agree enough to make a case on, and get the town running towards the next lynch, especially after the confidence boost of getting a scum last night.

I'm going to go back through and read since nightfall and see the order of events leading up to this train on HI-IQ.

To make things clear, I'm not in any way defending Hi-IQ I'm just stating that I want to review this more for myself than just jump on the band wagon

Says he doesn't see the case against HI like everyone else but, isn't defending him.

If Gold is scum this seems like a convenient time to align with someone you feel pretty sure is going to get lynched and flip innocent.

Had a family melt down last night, and today is a travel day for me so I might not make it back on. And honestly,I didnt read the thread last night and havent today. After today I'll be back on but I need to vote to not UD.
I vote to lynch no one [\B] because I have no idea what has transpired. Sorry all

Then votes NO ONE. I don't want to trivialize any RL issues that may be going on and really do hope that everything is ok.

In the spirit of the game I am compelled to say that it looks like Gold had some suspects and should have voted his top one.

 

[[AC] UhOhChongo]

It seems odd to me that both Gold and Mael were on Nar originally and niether one asked any questions of Nar after D1's night fall. Then on D2 they both vote no one.

 

[[AC] Tiburon321]

It seems odd to me that both Gold and Mael were on Nar originally and niether one asked any questions of Nar after D1's night fall. Then on D2 they both vote no one.

Hmmm, I need to go back and look at both of them more. They have both disappeared pretty much since the last nightfall as well...

 

[[AC] maelstrom]

Sorry I have been at work from 6:30 am and will not be out until 10pm. All my employees have been sick this week. I will try and read what I can and place a vote.

 

[[AC] BadHaggis]

*groans* I hate mafia... "sleep" i tell myself "take it easy, watch tv" i tell myself "you need some rest" i tell myself. then i think "hmm... wonder how the games going?" and now i can curse myself for asking... well, i'm going to try to answer your questions and read you posts a little better. ate dinner, still feel like crap, but now i feel like better crap...

Now this is a BH post that helps move him from leaning scum to probably scum. Either BH is an individual that can't comprehend context of posts or is trying very hard to twist them into something of substance. For example the tree post with the winky smiley was in response to my post about cnote being the vog and wouldn't have shot himself which was in response to Nems post of was cnote killed by the vig. to add the tib "i did this so i can't be evil" arguement isn't that at all. tib is saying its something he has done so he wouldn't be fooled by it.
so BH, did you fall off your bike or is this really your thoughts?

why vote no one after going through the trouble of pulling posts and making a case? why didn't you vote tib,nem or tree?

4 or more players haven't even posted in over 24 hrs .
7 votes out of 15 people and 2 are for no one. its no fun when others aren't trying.

funny enough, i did...

besides that, i wasn't making cases insomuch as i was thinking out loud to see what others thought about it. and i admit, my post was, essentially, crap. i was firing on about half a piston, now i think i'm on 2, maybe. due to my brain not working, i guess i wasn't really doing to good at making connections... or making bad ones. well, anyway, i can see how stupid i made myself look in that post, please ignore the entire thing, if you can.

I know im voting with someone i think is scum, but i think rickets voted scoop quickly after night fall because he was mentioned as someone to look at. this was done thinking either we wouldn't look at scoop now or vote him. im betting rickets will move with enough votes on scoop or if not i will move to rickets.

BH i didn't say you shouldn't have posted but if you build cases against players and think at least one of them is scum you should have voted one of them instead of no one.

those "cases" were crap. i honestly don't know what i was thinking when i posted them and i doubt i ever will... lol, "what's going though BH's head? the world may never know..."

Seriously? It's going in to night 3 and you have no one to suspect enough to vote for? I don't see how that is possible.

g/o hope you feel better g/o

I love how you're pulling posts out of context to try to twist them to better suit your needs. Please point out where you say I am using the "i did this so i can't be evil" argument.

i was not intentionally twisting them out of context, sorry. my bad, i shouldn't have posted at the time, it only served to make me look like an idiot

here, I'm using my friends computer and can only sneak on right now to place a vote. I won't be back on until 3ish tommorow, sorry guys. (I'm sleeping over, and school in the morning)

Anyways, I just saw that BH voted for nobody, which concearns me. He's at the top of my scum list, (for jumping onto my argument, hasn't added very much to the game) and Rickets would be my second. I haven't seen very much gameplay wise from rickets, and it would be an easy scum move to show up, throw out a vote, post some fluff, and then leave.

I'm leaning Tib innocent ATM, just because he has been asking questions and answering them. He could still just be scum trying to appear to help the town, but IMO he appears innocent.

So, I vote to lynch BH

again, the fluff was my half-a-piston brain not thinking strait. sorry. the no-vote was so i wouldn't ud, but i couldn't actually think of anything to vote someone for, again, half-a-piston. i made myself look like a scumbag, i'm sorry, feel free to vote me for it, only the town will suffer from that though.

now, as for who i think is evil... no lists for me, i go by posting only. so, i retract my vote on no one and vote to lynch gunslinger i agree with the case on him in post 898. i also find it a little unnerving that he hasn't posted yet today. what's he saving up for?

now, i need to go and force myself to stop thinking, it's giving me a headache...

 

[Madcrawdad]

Vote Count (thru post 907) - red indicates retracted vote

Gun (4) - Driver 840, Tib 884, Nem 899, BH 907
RICK (2) - Tree 828, wing 890
BH (2) - chup 889, scoop 894
scoop (1) - RICK 786, wing 852
Driver (1) - O3T 856
Tree (1) - nar 882
No Lynch (0) - BH 874

No vote: gold, Gun, mael, UhOh

Nightfall in 2 hours (8 pm CST). PMs as required, please.

 

[[AC] Tiburon321]

So I went back and looked at Gold's posts. They asked a couple of questions but did not build a case on anyone. They have also not posted since Friday am. I certainly hope they do not UD, unless they are scum.

 

[[AC] UhOhChongo]

Laptop is shutting down on me I need to move quick while I still have a computer.

I was going through BH's posts as he was the other to vote No One. When I brought my computer back up I see he posted a vote. :mad2: Wasted all that time.

Any way I found something when I was digging before. In my post on Gold I pulled a post where Gold commented that it was funny how BH's coin toss kept him off his team mate. I believe when it was posted He was referring to HH as we had just lynched him.

Here is BH's post.

THanks for answering. I retract my vote on Gunslinger and I vote to lynch Nem because I agree with several of the arguments on him. I also think Scoop could be evil, I give them both a 75-90% chance of it, which is more then I have for the rest of you. Since day one is a crapshoot, I flipped a coin as to which one, but I would have been fine with either.

In the post he said he was undecided between Nem and Scoop.

I don't know if BH is scum or not but I do know with all the scummy behavior and posting going on it isn't neccessary to twist someones post unless you have an agenda.