Mafia #89 Trouble in Kindergarten

[IceH2O]

IMO the ideal situation from the scum side is to let the town lynch one of their own with no interference from the mafia at all. Then for the town to blame the specific innocents who voted that dead townie. This increases the odds that the town will kill off another innocent the next night too and we gain no evidence through posts or vote analysis that leads us back to an evil.

Red Text -- The "perfect safe vote" for an evil, therefore, is to avoid voting someone the scum knows will flip innocent. They still get "an innocent to boot" and have misdirected us to go after another innocent or two for the next night's lynch.

One dead innocent is just as good as another for the scum team when they haven't had a chance to ID any of the townie PRs yet. Username doesn't strike me as particularly dangerous to the opposing side either, so I fail to see any reason a scum player would put their name on UN's lynch unless they had to for some other reason... For example, if there was a fellow mafia player in the running for lynch (which there wasn't in this case), that would be good reason to make sure the townie dies instead. UN just wasn't a threat to anyone from anything I could see.

Blue Text - Rich who exactly are you talking about here? You later made that sound like a reference to Ice (with your vote) but Noods makes a much better "fit" there.

--> I think a single vote by a late voter (Noods voting Wizard 4 min before nightfall) sends up more flags than a third vote on UN (Ice was the 3rd vote on UN), especially with a reason to throw out there.

Green Text - If I'm reading you right, you seem to believe UN's lynch was deliberately orchestrated by scum and innocent townies had nothing to do with it.

Purple Text - Ice doesn't fit everything you said. What you said is a jumble between Noods and Ice.

It made sense to me. A random late vote would send up more flags that his vote on UN did. I do not see what is confusing.

A random late vote like Noods onto Wiz just before night fell?

Exactly see how much heat she took for that. You took the easy route.

Ok I see what you are trying to say now.

You think I made a safe vote and Noods by moving late to a random person put a target on her back and you don't think a bully would do that.

I went through this with him here, I can see what me means after this exchange.

 

[IceH2O]

I'm a little worried that there is a tie between Rich and Noods this close to recess. Keep in mind that a tie results in no lynch. I hate to say it, but I think I'd rather be wrong than to not lynch anyone at all. Then we learn even less than we did last night. I'm tempted to vote Noods just to break the tie, but I thought I'd put it out there for the singleton voters to ponder first.

and Ice

 

[jbradt]

Mr. Zaffy opens up the window by his desk and sets his table fan to blow outside. As he lights his Cuban cigar he grumbles at jb, "I can't be expected to know all of your little brat names. Get out construction paper and some paste. I want a full 1/36th scale model of st. Peters. Basilica or you all get f's."

Yeah, sorry... missed that part. I'm really not comfortable with the tie or the fact that no one sees fit to break it. I retract my vote on Rich and vote to lynch Noodles.

 

[rich311k]

I am torn. I like my case on Ice but it does have holes. I also see the points about Noods. I do not want a tie either. Nothing happening does not help anything.

I withdraw my vote on Ice and Vote to lynch Noods.

Ice has been around all day and trying to get things uncovered I do not see that in Noods at all.

 

[Kashta]

That breaks the tie.

 

[Kashta]

Oh, twice.

 

[jbradt]

I am torn. I like my case on Ice but it does have holes. I also see the points about Noods. I do not want a tie either. Nothing happening does not help anything.

I withdraw my vote on Ice and Vote to lynch Noods.

Ice has been around all day and trying to get things uncovered I do not see that in Noods at all.

Get out of my head!

 

[Kashta]

I went through this with him here, I can see what me means after this exchange.

I saw that too, Ice. But you concluded that Rich is just wrong. While I agree he's wrong, I also think it's suspicious for him to this confusing.

 

[jbradt]

I saw that too, Ice. But you concluded that Rich is just wrong. While I agree he's wrong, I also think it's suspicious for him to this confusing.

Great... Kash has been drinking too.

 

[IceH2O]

I saw that too, Ice. But you concluded that Rich is just wrong. While I agree he's wrong, I also think it's suspicious for him to this confusing.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying he is innocent but I don't have enough to justify a vote his way.