Mafia #90-The Split

[rich311k]

They got me boys, they got me.

 

[Fishfriend1]

So far I have seen this:

Star and Gold are seriously tag-teaming here. And getting away with it. Honestly, they have practically been in-game teammates.

Zaffy and Doll have posted almost nothing of use, but then, neither had HIIQ, and I was wrong on him so... I dunno. Zaffy did muddy up the waters a little, so that's a hit against him...

Bally has screwed up, made herself scummy, and most certainly not made herself look or behave pro-town.

Kashta hasn't posted much, but as usual her posts seem pro-town. But she's such a good player she could easily be fooling me here. I'm just going to take it carefully around her.

That's what I've got on everyone so far. Now, I was dead wrong on HIIQ, so I may not be right about this, but...

I vote to lynch Zaffy for general unhelpfullness (most of his posts have been fluff), making minor attempts at getting people voted off (post 89), and for muddying the waters (post 127).

What do you guys think about his general unhelpfullness and the other reasons I posted?

 

[Zaffy]

I just got online, kind of a bad day. I'm sorry I missed nightfall. I had no intention of missing it.

 

[Dangerdoll]

Zaffy, I'm interested in if you have any thoughts for who would have been chosen for either team...

 

[Zaffy]

So far I have seen this:

Star and Gold are seriously tag-teaming here. And getting away with it. Honestly, they have practically been in-game teammates.

Zaffy and Doll have posted almost nothing of use, but then, neither had HIIQ, and I was wrong on him so... I dunno. Zaffy did muddy up the waters a little, so that's a hit against him...

Bally has screwed up, made herself scummy, and most certainly not made herself look or behave pro-town.

Kashta hasn't posted much, but as usual her posts seem pro-town. But she's such a good player she could easily be fooling me here. I'm just going to take it carefully around her.

That's what I've got on everyone so far. Now, I was dead wrong on HIIQ, so I may not be right about this, but...

I vote to lynch Zaffy for general unhelpfullness (most of his posts have been fluff), making minor attempts at getting people voted off (post 89), and for muddying the waters (post 127).

What do you guys think about his general unhelpfullness and the other reasons I posted?

You honestly think I was rallying the town to vote for you in post #89? Clearly your sarcasm meter is broken. As for post 129, why are you so sensitive about my questioning DD about her thoughts on you? If you're not scum then you have nothing to worry about.

 

[[AC] gold leader]

So far I have seen this:

Star and Gold are seriously tag-teaming here. And getting away with it. Honestly, they have practically been in-game teammates.

Zaffy and Doll have posted almost nothing of use, but then, neither had HIIQ, and I was wrong on him so... I dunno. Zaffy did muddy up the waters a little, so that's a hit against him...

Bally has screwed up, made herself scummy, and most certainly not made herself look or behave pro-town.

Kashta hasn't posted much, but as usual her posts seem pro-town. But she's such a good player she could easily be fooling me here. I'm just going to take it carefully around her.

That's what I've got on everyone so far. Now, I was dead wrong on HIIQ, so I may not be right about this, but...

I vote to lynch Zaffy for general unhelpfullness (most of his posts have been fluff), making minor attempts at getting people voted off (post 89), and for muddying the waters (post 127).

What do you guys think about his general unhelpfullness and the other reasons I posted?

I think it seems like you're floating ideas and trying to rally people to give them validity. I would love to see a run off between you and Bally night 2.

 

[Dangerdoll]

I'm willing to go for that because I am starting to think that since it was discussed earlier that I wouldn't think either one would be a good first choice..... that just could make them good enough for a second choice for either team.

 

[[AC] gold leader]

I'm willing to go for that because I am starting to think that since it was discussed earlier that I wouldn't think either one would be a good first choice..... that just could make them good enough for a second choice for either team.

Didn't LG clarify that the mafia teams would not be getting a second choice? That means we're dealing with one don and one flunky on each side. The statement about second choices seems moot.

 

[[AC] Star-Crossed]

The pre-nightfall things I wanted to address:

Although I agree with Star on some points in regards to Bally, I am still a little concerned about one phrase from Star that really stood out for me.

"Building cases" on players because they "look scummy" is a totally opportunistic way to play.... and that's often a scum-tell in itself.

I build cases on those who look scummy to me. Are you suggesting I should build a case on someone who seems pro-town? I most certainly won't forget about those who do not seem scummy to me, but you bet I'll focus my energies on those I see as most scummy. It strikes me very odd you would suggest I do otherwise...trying to plant seeds of doubt for later?

Star, that was some wicked fast reading or did you just skim?
I'll break the tie, if I'm wrong lynch me tomorrow.
I retract my previous vote and vote to lynch Hi IQ [\B]

I am a wicked fast reader.


There were a couple of things FF posted that originally made me go huh? but upon revisiting them I was able to make more sense of them.

 

[Zaffy]

So, before the below post, Zaffy had nothing but a few day 1 fluff posts, obvious fluff too. (it involved a sippy cup)

Who is skimming now? The town doesn't get a hit. Which mafia team are you on?

(1) Here Zaffy jumps right in with a seemingly serious post. No more fluff. He then accuses me of being evil.

I have to agree here, I've seen all sorts of craziness and conspiracy among scum teams and innocent townies.

I certainly won't discard the idea that Gold and Star are working together. There's a Goldstar joke in here somewhere.

(2) And look here, he agrees with me now.

To clarify, my comment above isn't meant to say that I have any reason to believe they are working together either.

(3) And then un-agrees with me here. Seems to me like he's just trying to not pick sides. Probably saw how well that had worked out for me and decided against it.

Do you think either of them are scum? Who do you think they would pick?

(4) Zaffy, again with the serious posting. But by now, serious posting is more then acceptable.

I asked that in response to what was already speculation. DD has said:


So I wanted to know who DD did think would be chosen as a team since she didn't think they would pick each other.

(5) And he defends himself.

BTW, he only has 8 posts, one was a double post, so it doesn't count.

All in all, I don't think Zaffy has done a lot to contribute. Just poked here and there, just enough not to be noticed.

This post isn't about what I've said, it's about what you want people to think about me.


(1) You've played with me long enough to know this is sarcasm. At that point in the game there was no reason to think that you were scummy.

(2) Yes, I did agree with you. But on what did we agree? You declined to mention that. What I was agreeing with is that the scum teams will go to great lengths to fool the town. This includes but is not limited to sacrificing teammates on night 1, role claiming, and making misleading posts.

(3) That's just me clarifying that I didn't see anything that led me to believe in any tin-foil shenanigans yet. It's fully possible that I could agree that I've seen something happen, but not currently be seeing it now. Don't you agree?

(4) You have no comment on the content? just play by play?

(5) Again, clarifying. There's nothing to defend. It's called discussion.

It seems to me that you've got an agenda.