Mafia 94: When Gingers Attack; the play

So your thought is the scum team wouldn't go for putting themselves at the greatest advantage? Interesting.

I didn't say that. The advantage would only lie in the hopes that they could turn that person. Keep in mind that there is still a 50% chance that they will not turn the person they use it on.

Why are you so reluctant to look at things from a different angle?
 
The syrum not being used. Suppose you give me your thoughts on why you think it wasn't used.

Bold Statment !?!?!? I'm posting what I'm thinking. Is your real problem that you are on the list?

Who's to say that the gingers are waiting to use the syrum on a townie PR? Why waste the syrum on Day 1 when there is not a very big chance of hitting a PR when they could wait and have a better guess later on? They also have investigations so they could be waiting for those results before using it.

I feel that saying everyone up for a test last night was innocent is a bold statement. I have no problem at all being on your list. IMO it's a weak case and with so many people on the list, I would actually have a problem not being on the list.

True, but then why not use the syrum. I can see them saving it to go after another PR, but not if they had any chance of losing a player on a late vote switch.

Lets just call it a top 5 for now.

Your right Jpap. I made that post after quickly looking at nightfall, and being very surprised that the cartoon syrum wasn't used. After looking over nightfall this morning I'm thinking everyone up was innocent. That makes this the list

Razzlefish
Dangerdoll
Allaboutfish
Jpappy
Lady G
Rich 311k
Wizzard

From that list I'm going to remove Allaboutfish, and Rich. AAF I'll still give more time, and Rich because If I'm right there would be no reason to risk a late vote move like he did.
I am not getting a good understanding on the reasons for not including AAF and Rich in your list.

From that list I'm going to remove Allaboutfish, and Rich. AAF I'll still give more time, and Rich because If I'm right there would be no reason to risk a late vote move like he did.

My post should of said..why giving AAF and Rich a pass, I know what you said in your post, but really?[/QUOTE]
I have this same question.... it's not making the best sense to me. I would think they held onto the serum until after day 1. I would think day 1 is way too early to use the serum and good thing too..... because if they were as confused about the serum as we are, they sure are getting a good explanation of it now.

I'm not sure how much more I can explain but at this point in time they have all their mafia members so there is no need to gain another. Need being the key word. If we are able to lynch/ genetically test one of the gingers, then I can see where targeting a townie is more productive. Then they could replace the one they lost. Make sense so far? As far as not using their hit, well I guess that would be a personal decision between the mafia members. Yes, they could do the same with a hit. Also, keep in mind if they turn someone, that person is going to have to rework their game play (provided they weren't already looking at the wrong people). That shift would be fairly obvious to the town and would be something everyone would be on the lookout for if we knew the syrum was used. Follow? So then everyone is suspecting that person and we vote to test them. Well that one mafia member that they gained is now lost so they are back to the number they had before, right? So I guess it would have to fit the situation, kill an innocent or turn an innocent but have them die by testing. Almost the same thing right?

I have no idea if that makes any more sense than before but trust me, it all makes sense in my head! :nilly:
wait, I might have missed something but why would mafia not have a need to gain another? They could ALWAYS use another. I am trying to make sense of your logic but it's late....

If Pir doesn't turn up scum obviously it doesn't help to clear them.
Ok, one other thing I don't understand is why Pir would be automatically thought of as mafia....

It's a long explanation but it still doesn't make sense to me. Do the math, maybe you'll see why it doesn't make sense.

You get 2 dead but the other way you have 2 townies gone and you get an additional team member possibly.

What do you mean we won't get anywhere. In fact I think it's an interesting discussion. I wonder if Razz is taking the stance he is so when the scum team uses it, if they use it on a regular townie he can say "look, I would have gone for a PR if I were scum so I can't be scum". I wonder if LG thought the serum might kill her if she used it last night.

So you voted for me A. because it was safe and B. because I was really looking hard at Kash and Plant. Would you rather me sit back and not analyze peoples' posts? Should I not point out anomalies that stick out to me?
ok, I will try to explain again.... no, I voted for you because when I was reading, all that seemed odd was your behavior change in my thoughts. you say you are analyzing posts now so you admit that you are playing close attention to the game... you missed a joke, but couldnt understand how with all you are doing with other posts, you know, your analyzing. You also came out of the gate pushing on aaf, something i did last game..... he seemed like an easy target at the time, being the noob.... last game, I was mafia. For the little I had a chance to read, work got in the way of keeping up on the thread. I was still at work and 8:35 or so rolls around and I needed to vote or UD. I made a personal goal for myself to not UD in any further games. I agree that UD does nothing for the town nor the game. While still at work, I had time to come on, vote with all I had to go on and hope for a better day today. I was not able to make any formed opinion on anyone else with how little I had read and didn't just want to jump on a train without having a reason to do it in the first place. I didn't know who you were looking at, I didn't know anyone that anyone was looking at. Now I am not understanding why you tried to fluff up my first reason I gave you which was the short version of this post. You completely made up your own reasons of either 1 or 2 that had to be my reasons. Are you forgetting that I wasn't able to make any fair assessments otherwise?

And please Labby, analyze away. It's the spirit of this game. I wouldn't want you to hold back, but please take into consideration or at least read my posts before deciding for yourself why I must have voted for you.
 
Well that's it for me folks going to have a nightcap and hit the sack
Scotch is on the table if anyone else wants a night cap

and for all those poor soulless gingers I'll leave you with a little soul
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I didn't say that. The advantage would only lie in the hopes that they could turn that person. Keep in mind that there is still a 50% chance that they will not turn the person they use it on.

Why are you so reluctant to look at things from a different angle?
I'm not reluctant to look at things from all angles. I am reluctant to believe the scum team wouldn't do something that was to their advantage. Worst case scenario they get rid of two townies if they target a non-PR with the serum. That is best case scenario for your proposed method (targeting a PR with the serum). I am not sure what you're trying to manipulate.

ok, I will try to explain again.... no, I voted for you because when I was reading, all that seemed odd was your behavior change in my thoughts. you say you are analyzing posts now so you admit that you are playing close attention to the game... you missed a joke, but couldnt understand how with all you are doing with other posts, you know, your analyzing. You also came out of the gate pushing on aaf, something i did last game..... he seemed like an easy target at the time, being the noob.... last game, I was mafia. For the little I had a chance to read, work got in the way of keeping up on the thread. I was still at work and 8:35 or so rolls around and I needed to vote or UD. I made a personal goal for myself to not UD in any further games. I agree that UD does nothing for the town nor the game. While still at work, I had time to come on, vote with all I had to go on and hope for a better day today. I was not able to make any formed opinion on anyone else with how little I had read and didn't just want to jump on a train without having a reason to do it in the first place. I didn't know who you were looking at, I didn't know anyone that anyone was looking at. Now I am not understanding why you tried to fluff up my first reason I gave you which was the short version of this post. You completely made up your own reasons of either 1 or 2 that had to be my reasons. Are you forgetting that I wasn't able to make any fair assessments otherwise?

And please Labby, analyze away. It's the spirit of this game. I wouldn't want you to hold back, but please take into consideration or at least read my posts before deciding for yourself why I must have voted for you.
Ok, this is a better explanation of your vote than you provided earlier. Thank you. And you know I won't hold back, it's not my nature. And I'm very glad you've changed your UDing ways. :thm:
 
Hey all...

I've recently been called away to events in Lithuania, so there will be a special guest moderator finishing up the game for me.

Be nice to Zaffy... :nono:
 
ACVille shows the signs of wear throughout the many years of battle between town and scum. Some shops are silent reminders of residents of the past who have either moved on, or been buried under the soil. If one business can thrive in such a place, it's the mortician. Business is booming, it's so good in fact that there are barely enough hands to tend the dead. As such, the quality of work declines. The police are scarcely around, if not corrupt themselves. Evidence isn't collected, and tagged the way it should be.

As Zaffys body is pushed through the assemblyline-esque process of being cleaned and buried. Some evidence makes it through, and is buried along with his lifeless mass.

Zombie hitman rises from the earth, infused with the power of a single hair from Chuck Norris' beard.


Bala, alarmed by what has transpired attempts to flee this forsaken city but is intercepted by Zombie Zaffy Hitman. At the airport gate, Zaffy grabs at JB and tears his return ticket from his hands. Zaffy destroys the return tickets and seals JB in the plane. Forever banished to Lithuania(because that place sucks), JB will be one more soul forgotten by the small town of ACVille.
 
Remaining players:

Razzlefish
Dangerdoll
Allaboutfish
Lab_Rat
Jpappy789
Chill
Lady G
Rich311k
TwoHobbies
DirtyDawg10
the wizard
Kashta
Piranha


Next nightfall will be Friday at 9pm eastern.

Game On!

Nightfall will happen as planned. Except it's going to be at 6pm Pacific instead.:lipssealedsmilie:
 
Hopefully what I posted today answers you concerns.

I really think you and G are making a mountain out of nothing. Is this subject getting us anywhere? 3, 4 who cares...oh yea, you and G do!

2H, your posts did not answer my concerns. I do believe that everyone cares about how many scum there are, however, I did not question you on that. I simply asked if G caught you in a slip when you were discussing the matter.

What really concerns me is that you seem to have everything figured out by D2 even though we have not genetically tested any scum yet. I am concerned that you seem to be on the defensive side.

You have made some pretty bold claims for this early in the game.
 
It seems to me that there was too much discussion about why the Ginger's didn't use their serum last night. Honestly, can we benefit from this type of distraction?

I think I will go back and see who started the topic because it was a distraction and I don't think that there was any bush kicking going on while it was being discussed.
 
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