Mafia Game 3

Boo! The Mafia will rule this town!

I agree with Ice that the last member of Mafia gets to decide. It's only fair we get to go out the way we want as this game has been so not in our favor. Mafia 4 can wait and will pple please refrain from posting to other threads about their current roles, especially when you're not ousted yet! And please find someone else to take over if necessary. I nominate Ogre! :thm:

I agree, Ogre would be a good choice if he's willing, and I hope we continue. Townies only have 4 shots at the mafia left (assuming nobody else bails).
 
The last Mafia has PMed me and said everyone make a vote and if it's wrong the Mafia win (?)

I'll be able to mod until monday, prolly morning where you are. So, if the votes come in quickly, I can mod another round or 2.
 
lol so they wanna make it a one vote show down lol
 
CC, note that I didn't say that you are innocent, only that I might not find a whole lot in your posts. I haven't gone back yet, but here are my thoughts on how you could be mafia.

I think that most folks closely reading the thread will agree that I came charging out of the gate and was pretty vocal since the game's beginning. It then became the mafia's strategy to whisper in everyone's ear that I was mafia:

1. DD was constantly saying "Mac sure knows alot about what the mafia might be thinking...I just can't shake the feeling that he is mafia."

2. Sovran: "Arrggghhh, I've helped lynch our dear Dwarf Puffer, I should have voted Madcrawdad like I really wanted to."

3. Ogre was a little more vocal and was constantly accusing me of being a strong mafia candidate.

Caveman, at the beginning of the game, you said something to the effect that I seemed "uncaring and like I didn't have the townies interest at heart." This seems to fit in with the more subtle mafia strategy to discredit my game.

Your statement, coupled with some of Ogre's posts about you, however, is what raises a red flag for me. If folks pay attention to day 2, you can see that Ogre is really trying to manipulate me to join in the lynching of NeonJ...but fortunately I didn't bite. IMO Ogre really was looking for me to really take the fall for that fiasco.

Now let's jump back to day 1, where I came at you pretty hard for your statement that I was a likely mafia candidate. Ogre says he didn't really see what all the fuss was in my pursuit of you. Why would he say that? IMO Ogre really wanted me to slip up, and if you REALLY are an innocent I think he might have jumped on it and tried to help me get the ball rolling on that one.

Also, I think folks would agree that your game really hasn't changed much since the onset....you've not really posted a whole lot, and not really stuck your neck out on anything. So why would Ogre pretty much dismiss you as an innocent in the beginning, but say that you have a SERIOUS mafia vibe on day 3, when your game hasn't changed a bit? Was he indirectly trying to distance himself from you?

Townies, think about this and we can talk once Plantling is lynched. All of this is really from memory, so if I've gotten something wrong feel free to correct me.

yesterday I gave the above explanation of how Caveman could be mafia. Since giving the thread a quick look-thru, I've found a little additional info showing Caveman letting himself be led on the vote, a possible mafia strategy.

Below is a quote from NJ back on Day 1 where NJ accuses me of having cynical and downer posts......
But to be honest, something about MacCrawdad is really not jiving with me right now. I feel like his responses are cynical and cutting, rather downer posts as opposed to trying to rally the townies. It's not that I'm sure, but he seems to jump every which way on people, and tends to throw their responses back in their faces and not necessarily in a constructive way.

But I want to see how the crowd falls with this one. I think IceH20 maybe getting punished for the wrong reasons, so I want to see what happens if

I vote to lynch MadCrawdad.

Caveman jumps on it....
MadCrawdad seems fairly non caring about the others in this town. I vote for him since I wouls imagine a mafia guy thinking this way

A little later in the day I go after Caveman pretty hard, and toss my vote his way, and a couple of folks follow. NJ then changes her vote for me.

Later in the evening JRR and FL toss in their votes for Ice
[I VOTE TO LYNCH ICEH20.

I vote to Lynch IceH20

I believe that Neon Julie is trying to distract everyone with nonsense of DP and CCM, to save IceH20 tush. Also when she changed her vote to DP, she even said "this will tie him with IceH20" SO I have a very strong feeling that Neon Julie and IceH20 are mafia.

10 mins later CC follows JRR & FL.....
I think JRR and FL are right, change my vote to Lynch IceH20

There are a couple of other examples where CC looks to be pretty willing to follow others on the vote.

I'm willing to vote to lynch CaptainCaveman at this point, even though I've got a stronger feeling about someone else. Coler and JohnLarson, though, were 4 for 4 in picking mafia and I can't ignore that....
 
The last Mafia has PMed me and said everyone make a vote and if it's wrong the Mafia win (?)

I'll be able to mod until monday, prolly morning where you are. So, if the votes come in quickly, I can mod another round or 2.

if we're going with the showdown, I might need to rethink my willingness to vote for CC...I have a stronger feeling on someone else.
 
I'm willing to continue on.

I can't say I have any one person I'm big on.

I'll have to look back at past people I've suspected,should have kept notes lol.

I know FL22 was high on my list

So for now I vote to lynch Fishlady22

When is night going to start. Going to a family picnic around 2 and probably won't be home till after 9. I want to be able to read posts and make a final decision if at all possible.
 
A Case for Lynching '13'

As I said in an earlier post, I had a stronger feeling about someone else being mafia. That feeling would be about '13'. I said that I'd be willing to vote to lynch CCM for Coler/JL, but if going with the one-vote showdown, this would be my guy.

Early on Day 1, Ice tosses his vote at '13' for a pretty random reason. He says it doesn't mean much. It's early in the game and looks to be a way to get things going in the game.
Let the finger pointing begin!

I don't have 3 choices just yet but since it is a crap shoot to begin with

I vote to lynch "13"

No real reason,just don't like the number its bad luck. If you look around ACville there is no address with the number 13 on any street and we all know buildings have no 13th floor.


Much later in the day, '13' sees the seemingly random vote Ice has cast for him, and retaliates. Keep in mind Ice has already changed his vote from '13' to someone else at this point.
Hmmm just got back from work at the plant to find i got a hit put on me buy IceH20....sounds like mafia style to me. so I VOTE FOR ICeH20 ( see you at the next town meeting )

Day 2 dawns (after DP is lynched the evening before) and '13' let's everyone know that he's got suspicions about Ice, and is sticking with his vote another day.
Well well look what we have here i had my suspicions about NeonJulie and definitely IcEH2O. My vote stays the same this round I VOTE FOR IcEH20. Guys still trying to get me whacked !

Still Day 2 and '13' let's everyone know he's still voting for Ice and will do so tomorrow if necessary
yeah so what i have only voted for one person and that is IceH20 yesterday and again today. i'm not going to change my vote for any reason. As far as my post's seaming hollow...well maybe i'm just not posting a big fake line of crap ? just like a mafia member would. Its only been 2 days so im sticking with my vote for awhile. heck i'll even vote for IcEH20 again tomorrow if he isn't voted out tonight.
Hollow as it may be :)

He's still voting for Ice, now says for no real reason...even if Ice may be an innocent
its bound to happen....so why the heartfelt explanation...hmmm makes me wonder. there are only 5 mafia. the only reason i am voting for IcEH20 is because he voted for me and im sticking to that for no real reason ( hope your not a innocent by the way otherwise were down 3 )

Still sticking with Ice
by the way my vote is still I VOTE TO LYNCH IceH20

Still sticking with Ice like a pit bull
Hmm i like the idea of a coin flip...im still voteing for you but tomorrow is another day ( if i make it )
plus i said i would keep my vote as is.

Still hanging onto Ice. Says he NEVER thought Ice was mafia, though. Not the most pro-town strategy, is it? Innocents are lynching each other and this guy's hanging on to Ice for a reason like this!?
my votes have never changed even thought i never really thought that iceH20 was mafia i just voted for him because he voted for me im starting to think more to the side that ice isn't mafia...but hey who knows anything at this point so my vote is still for him.

Here Plantling points a weak finger at '13' and he points a weak one back a little later, maybe trying to distance themselves from each other?
I'm very tired of all this wishywashiness, so I'll have to say "I vote to lynch 13." I picked him because he went on a long rampage about him being the only innocent then maybe he's mafia.

'13' is still sticking w/ Ice, but would sure LIKE to vote for someone else...2 reasons here maybe.....persuade Madcrawdad to vote for NJ (as Ogre also tried), and to distance himself from Ogre?...notice that Ogre is named last.
All this talk between neonjulie madcrawdad and ogre and you guys don't vote for each other. in my opinion there is way too much info begin tossed around between you guys how could you not be voting for one another ? sketchy very sketchy

Man i wish i didn't say earlier that i would stick to voting for IceH20 because right now i would vote one of you three in a heart beat.

Well heres to tomorrow hope im still around to fight another day...unless

Day 3 and the game has busted wide open. Coler/JL have outed Ogre, DD, and Sovran. '13' suggests that everyone vote for the same person....keep in mind that the Sovran lynch train is already chugging down the tracks with folks jumping on left and right.
OK im not going to vote for ice anymore ( your off the hook )...Hmm who should i vote for now....?

just to get the record straight When Mee Mee reacted the way she did to me calling her Mafia and voted for me it was the same thing i did when ice voted for me i didn't think she was mafia wasn't sure about NeonJulie the freakin doctor !! more than ever i think we need to all vote for one person

Ooooh, '13' must REALLY dislike Ogre. Everyone else is going Sovran, but he votes Ogre. No biggie, though....still one of the 3 mafia identified (Ogre, DD, Sovran).
I Vote To lynch OgreMKV


Next JRR, calls '13' out on not following his own 'everybody vote for 1 person'
so you talk about everyone voting for one person? here's some news.. youre not starting a revolution. go back and read who everyone is voting for and what the plan is.

'13' says, 'Sorry, your right.....I vote for Madcrawdad.' WHAT?! Note that I'm not protesting that I'm innocent here, but does a vote for anybody other than Ogre, DD, or Sovran make any sense at all here....Also pay attention that at this point, the mafia is scrambling and EVERY member of the dead mafia is whispering 'Madcrawdad, Madcrawdad, Madcrawdad......"
Sorry i am actually retracting my vote for OgreMKV and switching it

I vote to lynch Madcrawdad

DP posts a vote count clearly showing Sovran way out front in votes, but forgets to put '13's' vote on for me. '13' reminds him "Make sure to get my vote for Madcrawdad."
you missed my vote for madcrawdad

Later when it's clear that he's out flapping in the breeze on the Madcrawdad vote he falls in line.....
I pull my vote for madcrawdad and
I vote for Sovran. sounds like allot went down since my last post.

Ogre, DD and Sovran fall, and the next day everyone is going for Plantling. At some point I cast suspicion on him, and he falls in line with the plantling vote, OR DOES HE?
Ok fair enough but be warned...Im not mafia

I vote to lynch Plantling

Following JL's lead, I think I made a pretty strong case for lynching Plantling. She responds with some weak arguments 'It's Madcrawdad....It's FishLady.' Whatever. She can protest all she wants....but who is the ONLY guy who subtly tries to question everyone's votes for Plantling? Let's see.
im starting to doubt my vote for plantling ? after reading the last few post please tell me im wrong and were not about to lynch a townie here people

Here I see '13' is stirring the pot on the plantling lynching and call him on it...
not sure which posts would have changed your mind.....you and plantling haven't been PMing each other, have you?:grinyes:

Nope...he's sticking w/ Plantling because he trusts me on this now......Keep in mind he was sure voting for me yesterday. What changed?
no...but its hard to tell truth from fiction both side make good points the only reason im sticking with my vote for plantling is that her post have changed quite a bit form the start and yours have not

Then here's a post of his top mafia picks...It is what it is, but JOHN LARSON? The guy has clearly proven he's mayor at this point.....if you don't trust John Larson why are you tossing Captain Caveman in your top 2, as JL is the one who strongly pointed the finger at CC.
my top picks are

Plantling & Captiancaveman9
or
Johnlarson66 & Madcrawdad

and what about IceH20 ?

Still sticking with Plantling.....but EVERYONE may switch their vote from Planling to him.
yeah who knows...my votes stays on plantling i think i might get lynched tonight though

Finally, more whispering "Madcrawdad....woooooohhh."
if Madcrawdad's Mafia were screwed :)

I think all of this info tells an interesting tale, don't you? If this guy's not mafia, he's sure the oddest acting townie I've ever seen....

Still not going to vote, though. Want to hear what other folks think.
 
That is a pretty good case against 13. Imagine the luck of pointing them out as the 1st lynching. Guess we should have gone with that idea and rolled them out 1st.

FL22, there is no real explanation for my vote except for that I have always thought you were, 13 was also in the mix because as pointed out above they were always on my tail.

I'm inclined to follow Mad for a couple of days. If we end up lynching 2 innocents following his lead then I say the 3rd day we take him to the guillotine.

But I would also like to see who else gets thrown under the bus and what they have to say to protect themselves. I'll post a final vote before I leave for the day but for now FL22 sticks.
 
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