Mafia Games....
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Actually Ice there have been games when alias's have been added by a site mod and the game mod did not know the player, it didn't effect the game in anyway and I'm sure if the player had caused a problem the game mod would of contacted the site mod about it. Anyway, just thought you should know that too, not that it matters.
No, they should not be in mafia games at all. However, no one to my knowledge has ever been "banned" from playing mafia games either........ and I certainly don't see THAT as a practical option. Personally, I would oppose that as being detrimental to the spirit of our games, as I believe all games should continue to be as open, accommodating, and welcoming as we can possibly make them. IMO the general group of mafia players here would not wish to and should not need to take any of this so far that we start "blacklisting" people from mafia games. That would be silly and it would hurt the atmosphere of friendly game play and it being "all in good fun" which is necessary to our games.
Site mods don't get involved in personal issues unless they violate site rules. They are certainly not here to babysit mafia games by any stretch of the imagination. It makes no difference from a site guideline or membership standpoint if one player in a game gets pissy, misbehaves, or acts like a poor sport. Good sportsmanship is not a requirement for membership at the site.
That behavior can still be highly counterproductive to the reason why our members enjoy playing mafia games... and that is something else which does not concern the site itself or it's moderation staff.
About that particular situation, no. Nothing is going to happen at all. I don't feel it's my place to reveal their identity in a public thread and they surely aren't going to come forward themself after all of this with an explanation or apology. I don't expect us to call for or take any action against them even it if were publicly known who it is. What's done is done.
I do believe it would not have happened at all and would be prevented from happening again in future games if we don't keep alias identities secret anymore. That was my reason for making this suggestion.
From a personal standpoint as a player, that leaves me with one alternative... to just avoid playing future games with them and now to avoid even signing up for games that include alias players. So be it.
Actually Ice there have been games when alias's have been added by a site mod and the game mod did not know the player, it didn't effect the game in anyway and I'm sure if the player had caused a problem the game mod would of contacted the site mod about it. Anyway, just thought you should know that too, not that it matters.
I wasn't aware our games included anonymous players where even the Game Mod doesn't know who they actually are. Had I known this was true, I would've suggested we all reveal alias identities as a general custom a long time ago. I guess that's even more reason for me not to play whenever an alias player signs up.
For me personally I won't be using an alias again. It certainly dimmed my participation not because I wanted to lurk but because I didn't want to reveal who I was. Just about everything I wanted to post was very chill-like and sure to out me. You're playing without an alias got you investigated Day 1 so playing without an alias in an all alias game doesn't work either. I won't be playing any games where everyone has an alias.
As to the point at hand I agree that no one should be allowed to deliberately attack another player and hide behind an alias. However this whole someone said something conversation is very convoluted and hard to make any sense out of, and no I don't want any speciifcs to clear it up.
I don't think any hard and fast rule is going to solve the situation. Aliases serve a purpose to some and the fact that a minoroity might abuse them doesn't warrant, to use Ice's terminolgy, turning the game into a nanny state. I'm not sure how knowing someone's identity determines the offensiveness of a post? and no that can't be explained to me (see JB's Zaffy/RB rock comment).
If a post is offensive then it should be dealt with in the moment. Players can be offensive whether they are playing under an added alias or not. We're all here under alias's anyway - Mom never named me Chill. If someone feels the need to hide behind a second layer of anonomity to make offensive comments then it's pure cowardice and unworthy of the energy it takes to be offended.
Bottom line for me is while I won't be using an alias again I understand why some want to and have no problem with them continuing to do so. (With the one exception that I won't play games where everyone has an alias as they're just not fun for me personally.)
I don't think any hard and fast rule is going to solve the situation. Aliases serve a purpose to some and the fact that a minoroity might abuse them doesn't warrant, to use Ice's terminolgy, turning the game into a nanny state. I'm not sure how knowing someone's identity determines the offensiveness of a post? and no that can't be explained to me (see JB's Zaffy/RB rock comment).
If a post is offensive then it should be dealt with in the moment. Players can be offensive whether they are playing under an added alias or not. We're all here under alias's anyway - Mom never named me Chill. If someone feels the need to hide behind a second layer of anonomity to make offensive comments then it's pure cowardice and unworthy of the energy it takes to be offended.
Bottom line for me is while I won't be using an alias again I understand why some want to and have no problem with them continuing to do so. (With the one exception that I won't play games where everyone has an alias as they're just not fun for me personally.)
I will not do an alias again, I played like a moron and I think it does effect the game, much harder to get reads and it does allow one, if they so choose to take shots they would not normally take.
I think the real point for me, and more of a concern, is how you learned their true identity....seems that at least two players had to be discussing things, very likely against the rules, and/or the one that revealed the name to you without any permission to do so. Just my opinion.
