Mafia Games....

No Bob, but I see what you mean. No one discussed anything outside the rules. I would report it if I suspected someone communicated when they're not allowed to. That isn't the issue. I know two complained before the game ended....to the game mod. But that is allowed, even encouraged whenever someone thinks it's important.

Beyond that, I'm not going to say who the alias was or anything else about those details. It's not my place to out someone against their wishes who wants to stay hidden and who had every reason to expect at the time they signed up to play that their identity would never be revealed. (My personal opinion on the issue regarding future games has no bearing on that.) So that's how this needs to stay.
 
Yes, but read it from my point of view.

You make a statement that some alias players are venting hostility, in post 3615...

You even state about full disclosure at game's end which has never been a requirement in any way...it was always that player's choice to reveal themselves...

In post 3621, you state you can reveal the players names...an indication you have been told who they were, by whatever means...which seems o me someone violated the guidelines of the game during or after the game...

You even clarify 3 different alias that are 3 different members, which means 3 different times the rules were violated and communicated to you, during or after the game...

In your post 3625, the person "offended" shouldn't have found the "actual" source unless the alias reavealed himself....not by other means.....

Same post...you seem to have "inside" info that the game mod was aware of complaints...do not see why that is so...game mods should be using report post to the staff, not a single mod, especially if that mod is a player...

In post 3654, you state it is a "personal" issue...hmmmm...

In 3661..you reaffirm you know the offenders..which I don't see how you could without game rules being violated, during or after the games...or members complaining about forum problems that the entire staff is completely unaware of until now.
 
Here's my input...


Aliases have been used every so often since game #30 and this is the FIRST time I've ever heard of there being issues with people using them. The only one I am (now) aware of is the instance pointed out by Zaffy.

But if we are going to forcibly reveal who players are at the end of the game then we might as well stop using them altogether. It should be up to the players to reveal themselves, if comfortable, as the point of the alias is to be anonymous.

Now, as a person who has modded before I have never once actually refused to allow someone to play even though I have, on several occasions, threatened those with dubious UD records. That right is certainly reserved for game mods, however, it hasn't exactly been something worth heavily regulating IMO. But it's still the responsibility of the game mod, as it is with these types of situations. They need to control offensive behavior head-on and report any further remarks to the AC staff if it gets out of hand. I know that there have been times when people have crossed the line and a simple post from the game mod usually gets things back on track. I'm not blaming the mods of the games for creating the situation, but it seems like it was handled well enough to prevent a public meltdown during the course of a game.

From a player's standpoint, if you know of another player signing up that you cannot get along with then just don't play or keep your personal issues aside...starting a mafia "black list" of sorts sets a bad precedent for the game and the site.
 
I did read it from your point of view, Bob. And I got what you meant. I answered your questions as well as possible without disclosing names or going into specifics enough that actual identities would become known.

We've just heard from others who feel it's very important to keep alias names secret. Am I supposed to just ignore their preferences now because you want more details? Or because it supposedly makes me look bad somehow if you try looking at this in the worst possible light that I know more about what happened than I have disclosed?

The only way I can answer your questions will also reveal who the alias player was, the name of a player who might have been the alias but wasn't, and who complained about the alias to the game mod. I don't mind this where only I'm concerned but I don't have permission from anyone else to include them.

Do you want me to maintain that secrecy after all... or not? Or do you want me to answer the questions instead which also exposes the identities of other players?

This doesn't work both ways.
 
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Back to alias names in general....

I actually had fun in a game using an alias before when I was Chupacabra and Lab Rat posted that hysterically funny fainting goat video. Other than that exception, having an alias became more a chore for me. To me, it also makes playing the game a lot more complicated than it would be just as myself.

I have no illusions that I can fool people into thinking it's not me so I don't even try that. And I don't feel a need to play anonymously in case I embarrass myself in a game or someone laughs at me for being wrong/foolish.
 
Kash, don't want it both ways.

You have learned alias identities and shouldn't have...who told you their names?
 
Okay, personally I think it is time to move on now. A point was made for all to see, which I do agree is important most agree that aliases should remain anonymous if that player wants to remain so, since it seems more feel that way then not I believe we should leave it so. I think if a mod wants to run a alias game, it should be their choice as to how they want to set it up, I do believe when we first started these it was revealed at the end, that changed quickly if I remember right, because I do remember (not the game itself) but I remember the first one they weren't and it was like "what the heck, who was who" then that just pretty much became the way they were played, up to the player themselves. IMO, it needs to be up to each game Mod and how they want to set it up, then everyone can decide if they want to play in that particular set up. Also if Aliases that join a game that is not a "alias" game, it will be up to each player if they wish to join knowing there is/are alias(es) on the player list.

Now, any other issues should be taken up in PMs with whoever needs to be addressed. :D
 
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Kash, don't want it both ways.

You have learned alias identities and shouldn't have...who told you their names?
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There are lots of ways to find out an alias. Not all of them are being told by someone.

I figured out JB once because he posted using the smartphone app. People have figured me out from the time of day that I post.
 
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Bob,

1. If you keep pushing this so strongly as a fellow mafia player, the prevailing sentiment of the group tells us that it's none of your business. In addition, other players don't want drama here; they've already told us so in no uncertain terms. Leave it alone.

2. If you keep pushing this as a global because you question my integrity for some peculiar reason, you've jumped to several wrong conclusions. However, in that event, be straightforward about it and voice your concerns appropriately. Leave it out of the public forum.... and either contact me directly in private and find out what actually happened, or raise your issues in the staff forum where it belongs.

Either way, I am done with this.
 
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