Mafia Games....

I think it would be easier to just not give ILM a role at all if they signed up. I can't think of any other player who would even be in a similar position anyways. Everyone else who plays is good enough that they should probably feel offended if asked that.

I concur, but even with their past record, you were kind enough to put them in a game recently. :D

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I'm just against tweaking the game more than necessary...

The UD rule was a tweak, with the whole point being to penalize you (and your team) if you didn't participate. Now because non-participators who UD are affecting their team, it should be tweaked again?

Rather than tweaking it, I'd rather eliminate the UD rule altogether, and just make it a scum-tell to not cast a vote....(although as town, it's usually nicer to just have the person UD and find out their role, as opposed to having to go on a lurker hunt).
 
Resurrections would work like this:

Only non-PR innocents can be resurrected. No townie PRs nor evil PRs could be resurrected since they would have extra knowledge not in the thread. If there are no dead townies when someone UDs then a resurrection is not possible that night. It would also not carry over to the next night, so the team of the UDer will just have to take that loss.

The non-PR innocent would be resurrected to whatever role the UDer had. If the person who UDs was innocent, the resurrected person will be an innocent. If the UDer was a townie PR or evil, the resurrected person will get that role. I will not announce the role of the UD. You will not be able to assume that the resurrection will be revived as an innocent.

Does that make sense? I think it's the fairest way to deal with UDs without giving either team an advantage. It also keeps interested players in the game. There is no benefit to UDing, but your teammates don't suffer from your UD either.

Besides the very good point made by Mad about this plan, it seems that the UD's generally end up being NCI. Therefore the resurrected player would automatically be assumed to be NCI.

If you want to do something, I think a ghost chat would be a better idea.
 
Ok, no resurrections then or anything with UDs. I don't think you'd have to tell ILM to UD, he's quite good at doing that without promting. :laugh:

I liked having the dead players be somewhat involved in the game, but perhaps not as important as choosing the investigations like a couple of games back.

What would you suggest? I did like how that kept people who were killed off involved in the game, I know I hate it when I'm killed off.
 
I liked having the dead players be somewhat involved in the game, but perhaps not as important as choosing the investigations like a couple of games back.

I wasn't happy with how that game turned out, I feel like the scum team got a raw deal with it. Next time I'm thinking about letting the "ghosts" make a kill each night. But, they'll have no invest powers, so it could go either way.

Still thinking about it, and there's quite a while till then though.
 
I wasn't happy with how that game turned out, I feel like the scum team got a raw deal with it. Next time I'm thinking about letting the "ghosts" make a kill each night. But, they'll have no invest powers, so it could go either way.

Still thinking about it, and there's quite a while till then though.

or a 50/50 thing where it is either a kill or an investigation.
 
Ok, next game is Vampires! Here's what I'm thinking, let me know if you guys want any changes to this version.



Game Rules:

1. Each game day, everyone has to vote to lynch someone. You vote be stated in BOLD.
ex."I vote to stake XXXX” I am flexible on wording, but it has to be bold to count.

You must vote each game "day", but you cannot vote for No One or yourself. If you fail to vote you will die an untimely death that nightfall.

If you decide to switch your vote, state in BOLD you are doing so by stating "I retract my vote on....".

2. Whoever has the most votes will be lynched; in the event of a tie the loser will be randomly chosen.

The priority of night time will be as follows:

Lynch/Staking
Priest protection
Vampire bite/turning
Investigations
Untimely deaths

3. Everything stays in the game, no PMing people and setting up deals or alliances, or discussing issues in this game on other sites. The sole exception to this rule, is the authorization by me for special role players to do so.

I STRONGLY SUGGEST THAT AUTHORIZED PEOPLE COMMUNICATE VIA AN OFF SITE MESSAGING BOARD LIKE Quicktopic, MSN, AIM, YAHOO OR THROUGH EMAIL.

4. You can say whatever you want in this game, but you can not prove it with my PM to you.

5. If you have questions, PM me or email me at Lab_Rat16@yahoo.com, if it is important to all, I'll post it. I prefer PM for game issues.

6. Do not edit your posts for any reason!!!

7. No after death posts, if you must please keep them to a minimum. No revealing any additional information!

8. THE MOST IMPORTANT RULE. This is a game, it is meant to be fun. In the course of the game your words will be twisted, misinterpreted, taken in various contexts, it important to realize that the group of players here are generally good natured and mean nothing by it. Do not take anything said in game by anyone to be a personal attack or insult. If you feel that you are being personally attacked or insulted let me know.

9. In the case that unforeseen circumstances arise, I reserve the right to alter, or amend rules in order to maintain the game as needed.

Specific Game Mechanics:

Townies: You win when all of the vampires are eliminated. Good souls may communicate in a private thread (provided by me). Good souls will send in the investigations each night. If no good souls are participating (ie. no investigation PM to me at nightfall) then I will randomly choose who is investigated. The good souls will also have a single stake to use as they see fit (one hit the entire game, use it wisely).

(>1) Innocents: ACville has an evil presence draining the life of the town. Your mission is to eradicate the evil vampires by voting to stake someone each night. Your only power is to cast a vote each night. If you are killed you will become a good soul.

(1) Priest: Armed with garlic and holy water, you have the power to save one person from being turned by the vampires each nightfall. You may privately communicate with the Seer if you are found via investigation. Upon your death, if you could communicate with the psychic you may continue to do so, otherwise you will become a good soul.

(1) Seer: You have the ability to feel the presence and emotions of souls. Each night you will be given investigation results as chosen by the good spirits. If the priest or the vampire slayer are investigated you may communicate with them. You can choose your own investigation for Day 1.

(1) Vampire Slayer: Armed with 3 wooden stakes, you have the power to stake someone each nightfall until you use all of your stakes (3 stakings total). You may only use 1 stake each night, no multiple stakings are allowed from the slayer. If you are found by the Seer you may privately communicate. Upon your death, if you could communicate with the Seer you may continue to do so, otherwise you will become a good soul.

Vampires: You win when your population is greater than or equal to the population of townies. Each night you can attempt to turn a player via bite. If the attempted turn is protected by the priest then the bite will not work. Since the Priest, Seer, and Slayer have pure souls they cannot be turned, but your bite will kill them.

(1) Dracula: You are head of the vampire coven. You may communicate with other evil players. You have a one time bite that you may use at nightfall in addition to your regular team bite. Upon your death you will become an evil soul, you may continue to communicate with the other evil players.

(>1) Regular Vampire: You are a bloodthirsty vampire. You may communicate with other evil players. Upon your death you will become an evil soul and you may continue to communicate with the other evil players.

Untimely Deaths (UDs):
These just suck, so please don't sign up if you are not going to play. You will die a humiliating death and may not participate in the ghost chat if you UD.


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I plan on starting the sign up thread around June 7th, game to commence June 12th.
 
Sounds good to me!
 
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